definitely, though tbf the whole point of year end lists is to highlight examples of Not Like That Other (x) Music
This is transparently not true in the case of much of the guitar music in, eg, the Mojo list.
― Matt DC, Friday, 20 November 2015 14:53 (eight years ago) link
that's because Mojo is really incredibly boring
― welltris (crüt), Friday, 20 November 2015 14:56 (eight years ago) link
i don't mind courtney barnett's voice, it's just laconic sullen detachment. sheryl crow x aimee mann isn't a very exciting vocal mode but it's not unpleasant either. the album sort of falls down in places because when she's not as insightful as she thinks she is there's nowhere for her songs to hide really
― lex pretend, Friday, 20 November 2015 14:56 (eight years ago) link
Gazpacho are kinda dweeby ("This CD may destroy the universe") but I like them too. They don't overload their songs, it's more about atmosphere.― jmm
Ha ha, yeah. I wrote about that, the CD includes a code at the end that generates a random number that could theoretically, with the Quantum Zeno effect, destroy the universe. The fact that they may not be joking is kind of great. Plus biblical demons, Norwegian folklore about religion and trolls turning to stone, and instrumentation that includes a 10,000 year-old Skåra stone.
Also regarding Komara, it is a good palate-cleansing jolt of avant jazz prog. Worth checking out for those who may also like Shining, Author-Punisher, Zu, Pinkish Black.
― Fastnbulbous, Friday, 20 November 2015 14:57 (eight years ago) link
(i think after attempting some grimes songs this week i'd be happy with any vocal mode that isn't insufferably cutesy)
― lex pretend, Friday, 20 November 2015 14:57 (eight years ago) link
the hip-hop representation in these lists is very sad. not that the kendrick lamar album isn't great, but it's painfully obvious how much work it (and a couple of inevitable others) is doing as Not Like That Other Rap Music
― lex pretend, Friday, November 20, 2015 9:47 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yea TPAB was obviously going to be the token rap album in otherwise non-rap lists but i didn't think it was gonna be this bad
― marcos, Friday, 20 November 2015 17:33 (eight years ago) link
also makes d40's "FU if future & young thug are the only rap u listen to" comment in the future/thug thread even weirder, bc clearly kendrick is occupying that role more than anybody else
― marcos, Friday, 20 November 2015 17:35 (eight years ago) link
ehhhhhh not really; if i read him correctly (which is a totally open question) deej was saying that moreso for the vox populi than the critical spherei don't think there's any doubt that the majority of genreblind year end lists will be putting pimp a butterfly in the top ten and that barter and ds2 are gonna be outliers at best
― i made a scope for my laser musket out of some (forksclovetofu), Friday, 20 November 2015 17:39 (eight years ago) link
there's def a sphere of try-hard rap critics that applies to as well...
I promise you, you will see at least one Pazz and Jop ballot that is >50% Young Thug and Future tapes and the writer then bragging about his/her decision on Twitter
― bricc baby hitlo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 20 November 2015 17:44 (eight years ago) link
oh no doubt i mean, not no doubt you know what i mean
― i made a scope for my laser musket out of some (forksclovetofu), Friday, 20 November 2015 17:46 (eight years ago) link
the highest placing rap albums on Pazz & Jop the last 3 years were Kendrick, Kanye, Run The Jewels, Chance The Rapper and Azealia Banks. the 'Not Like That Other Rap Music' contingent rules as much as it ever has, no matter what dent someone like Future makes.
― some dude, Friday, 20 November 2015 18:18 (eight years ago) link
People let me tell you: Colleen Green's dynamite album I Want To Grow Up is getting hosed on these year-end lists.
― kornrulez6969, Friday, 20 November 2015 18:30 (eight years ago) link
like shining plenty (though was not too taken with their latest album), but pinkish black just leaves me cold. with atkins and ferguson both dead there's nothing left in it for me. :( glad great tyrant's records are finally making it out, though!
― rushomancy, Friday, 20 November 2015 19:09 (eight years ago) link
tal national's "zoy zoy" way too slept on.
― rushomancy, Friday, 20 November 2015 19:30 (eight years ago) link
i'm preparing now to seethe for two months about the lack of year end critical love for Dawn Richard and Jazmine Sullivan
― i made a scope for my laser musket out of some (forksclovetofu), Friday, 20 November 2015 19:42 (eight years ago) link
28 of that Mojo top 50 consists of artists named after a lead/solo male, from Kendrick to Kamasi via Father John Misty.
― Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 20 November 2015 20:41 (eight years ago) link
dawn will get some, way more than last time, but on the basis of how much dust she was unjustifiably paid throughout the year, it's hard to imagine jazime getting any of her rightful due at all
― lex pretend, Friday, 20 November 2015 20:54 (eight years ago) link
*jazmine
had to google what "paid dust" means, first time i've heard that
― i made a scope for my laser musket out of some (forksclovetofu), Friday, 20 November 2015 21:00 (eight years ago) link
kmt and pmd rn
― some dude, Friday, 20 November 2015 22:52 (eight years ago) link
Pretty sure jazz fans have rap fans beat in the "token album" complaint dept.
― Adam J Duncan, Saturday, 21 November 2015 00:57 (eight years ago) link
― i made a scope for my laser musket out of some (forksclovetofu)
I'd add Susanne Sundfør to that list. It's going to be a long wait for the ILM end of year list.
― Kitchen Person, Saturday, 21 November 2015 01:09 (eight years ago) link
xp yea that kamasi album is placing in way more polls than i thought it would've
― marcos, Saturday, 21 November 2015 01:22 (eight years ago) link
No Barry Altschul's 3Dom Factor, no darn credibility I say.
― xelab, Saturday, 21 November 2015 01:32 (eight years ago) link
deafheaven the critics token metal pick again then?
― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 21 November 2015 01:39 (eight years ago) link
grateful dead - 30 trips around the sun is the tokin' pick
― brimstead, Saturday, 21 November 2015 02:21 (eight years ago) link
So if I understand correctly, it's dissing Courtney Barnett season.
― Van Horn Street, Saturday, 21 November 2015 04:22 (eight years ago) link
I wonder if Earl Sweatshirt releasing his album so early in the year (march I think) will work against him, was my favorite non-TPAB hip hop record this year.
― Van Horn Street, Saturday, 21 November 2015 04:25 (eight years ago) link
― lex pretend, Friday, November 20, 2015 3:54 PM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
This would be a damn shame as I've been hoping that Reality Show would become one of those albums that finally gets its due once the kind of people who only learn about new music from reading year-end lists would finally discover that way (the way many will discover Courtney Barnett, whose album I also like a lot).
― Fetty Wap Is Strong In Here (cryptosicko), Saturday, 21 November 2015 04:26 (eight years ago) link
the earl record was good
― rap is dad (it's a boy!), Saturday, 21 November 2015 04:34 (eight years ago) link
people moaning about how there's only one token rap album in the mojo list is a low point for ilx
― canoon fooder (dog latin), Saturday, 21 November 2015 10:10 (eight years ago) link
Well Pallbearer haven't released anything this year so yeah
― moans and feedback (Dinsdale), Saturday, 21 November 2015 10:35 (eight years ago) link
this thread title change is a FUCKING OUTRAGE GAZ COOMBES 4 LIFE STAY STRONG GAZ FUCK A GAZ HATERZ
― when's international me day? (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 21 November 2015 10:58 (eight years ago) link
gazdooks
― noe love derp wev (wins), Saturday, 21 November 2015 11:19 (eight years ago) link
Earl Sportcoat's previous album was #42 on P&J and this last one didn't seem to make as much of an impact
― The Cuddling Of The American Mind (some dude), Saturday, 21 November 2015 17:55 (eight years ago) link
Oh brother! I have dysentery already from these year-end polls and it's not even December. I'm going to have to stock up on toilet paper.
― kornrulez6969, Saturday, 21 November 2015 18:08 (eight years ago) link
i have bad news for you- we're now living in a post-antibiotic world.
― rushomancy, Saturday, 21 November 2015 18:18 (eight years ago) link
have another one...
Uncut Magazine - Albums of the Year 2015
1. Julia Holter - Have You In My Wilderness2. Kendrick Kamar - To Pimp A Butterfly3. Sufjan Stevens - Carrie & Lowell4. Ryley Walker - Primrose Green5. Father John Misty - I Love You, Honeybear6. Tame Impala - Currents7. Courtney Barnett - Sometimes I Sit And Think And Sometimes I Just Sit8. Natalie Prass - Natalie Prass9. Sleaford Mods - Key Markets10. New Order - Music Complete11. Bjork - Vulnicura12. Unknown Mortal Orchestra - Multi-Love13. Jim O'Rourke - Simple Songs14. Robert Forster - Songs To Play15. Jason Isbell - Something More Than Free16. The Weather Station - Loyalty17. Blur - The Magic Whip18. Wilco - Star Wars19. Mbongwana Star - From Kinshasa20. Holly Herndon - Platform21. Alabama Shakes - Sound & Colour22. Gwenno - Y Dydd Olaf23. Sleater-Kinney - No Cities To Love24. Richard Thompson - Still25. John Grant - Grey Tickles, Black Pressure26. Joanna Newsom - Divers27. Jamie XX - In Colour28. Bassekou Kouyate & Ngoni Ba - Ba Power29. Kurt Vile - B'lieve I'm Goin Down30. Kamasi Washington - The Epic31. Four Tet - Morning/Evening32. Sun Kil Moon - Universal Themes33. Matthew E White - Fresh Blood34. FFS - FFS35. Young Fathers - White Men Are Black Men Too36. Destroyer - Poison Season37. Low - Ones And Sixes38. Dave Rawlings Machine - Nashville Obsolete39. Paul Weller - Saturns Pattern40. Bob Dylan - Shadows In The Night41. Jessica Pratt - On Your Own Love Again42. JD McPherson - Let The Good Times Roll43. Ezra Fuhrman - Perpetual Motion People44. Laura Marling - Short Movie45. Panda Bear - Panda Bear Vs The Grim Reaper46. Olivia Chaney - The Longest River47. Miguel - Wildheart48. My Morning Jacket - The Waterfall49. Songhoy Blues - Music In Exile50. Yo La Tengo - Stuff Like That There51. Algiers - Algiers52. H Hawkline - In The Pink Of Condition53. Roisin Murphy - Hairless Toys54. Israel Nash - Israel Nash's Silver Season55. Neil Young - The Monsanto Years56. Deerhunter - Fading Frontier57. Lana Del Ray - Honeymoon58. Fuzz - Fuzz II59. Stick In The Wheel - From Here60. Chip Taylor - The Little Prayers Trilogy61. Vince Staples - Summertime '0662. Titus Andronicus - The Most Lamentable Tragedy63. Badbadnotgood & Ghostface Killah - Sour Soul64. PiL - What The World Needs Now65. Bop English - Constant Bop66. The Apartments - No Song No Spell No Madrigal67. Michachu And The Shapes - Good Bad Happy Sad68. Dave Alvin And Phil Alvin - Lost Time69. Modest Mouse - Strangers To Ourselves70. Pond - Man It Feels Like Space Again71. Drinks - Hermits On Holiday72. Killing Joke - Pylon73. Phil Cook - Southland74. Keith Richards - Crosseyed Heart75. Nick Cave & Warren Ellis - Loin Des Hommes OST
― she used alt+3 like an ascii heart (NickB), Saturday, 21 November 2015 18:30 (eight years ago) link
not sure who kendrick kamar is
― she used alt+3 like an ascii heart (NickB), Saturday, 21 November 2015 18:32 (eight years ago) link
Lana Del Ray, either.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Saturday, 21 November 2015 18:37 (eight years ago) link
i managed to spend all year not listening to that julia holter record and now i see some of the ppl i trust the most here were falling all over it in her thread
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Saturday, 21 November 2015 18:41 (eight years ago) link
I wonder if the all new mainstream celeb free magazine NME will just have all the biggest sellers in their list or if they will throw an indie bone to its former hardcore readership.
― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 21 November 2015 18:43 (eight years ago) link
BRAD i would like to see you write an EOY piece about all the music you hated this year please :)
― lex pretend, Saturday, 21 November 2015 18:51 (eight years ago) link
it'd just be a list of bieber and weeknd songs prob
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Saturday, 21 November 2015 18:54 (eight years ago) link
if i was an editor i'd commission that on the spot
actually i just realised i'd rather read all my favourite writers write about shit they hate at this point
― lex pretend, Saturday, 21 November 2015 18:55 (eight years ago) link
If I were an editor I would send you to review controversial Scottish comedian frankie boyle's new stand-up show, which he wrote in response to Kendrick Lamar's album To Pimp A Butterfly
― noe love derp wev (wins), Saturday, 21 November 2015 19:02 (eight years ago) link
That Paul Weller album must be terrible if Uncut only put him at number 39. Doesn't he usually have a spot reserved in the top 10 no matter what he puts out?
Hot Chip don't seem to be doing too well this year.
― Kitchen Person, Saturday, 21 November 2015 20:20 (eight years ago) link
My Paul Weller comment could also apply to Bob Dylan who is just one place below him. His last four studio albums (not including his christmas album) all got 5/5.
― Kitchen Person, Saturday, 21 November 2015 20:26 (eight years ago) link
one of my favorite ilx tics is when people like lex, forks, deej and adam j duncan rightfully call out the tokenism or straight up ignorance when it comes to hip-hop, jazz, R&B, dance music or pop music — spheres dominated by POC, women, LGBQ, etc.
And then, without fail, the ILX heavy metal kool aid man brigade bursts through the wall to complain about all the oily, doughy white men only being represented by one group of oily, doughy white men in the neverending marginalization of the genre that brought us "entrails ripped from a virgin's cunt" and cookie monster vocals and drawings of dragons.
― bricc baby hitlo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 21 November 2015 21:32 (eight years ago) link
...says the man who wrote for Revolver - the metal mag who does a 'chicks in metal' issue every year and has defended it on ilx
― Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 21 November 2015 21:36 (eight years ago) link