pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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yeah, I feel like with p4k anything in the 6-7 range means "this is okay if you're already into stuff like this." Very few casual listeners are going to check out an album based on its 6.6 rating.

Why because she True and Interesting (President Keyes), Tuesday, 20 October 2015 15:36 (eight years ago) link

Another interview

http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/music/ct-pitchfork-ryan-schreiber-20151013-story.html

Was that photo taken in 1973?

Sam Weller, Tuesday, 20 October 2015 15:55 (eight years ago) link

EL VY (The National, Menomena)

Ina-Garten-Da-Vida (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 2 November 2015 13:53 (eight years ago) link

It's easy to say EL VY's first record, Return to the Moon, isn't a National album; it's more difficult to put a finger on what exactly it is.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 November 2015 14:09 (eight years ago) link

aw I like "GQuaalude musings."

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 2 November 2015 14:21 (eight years ago) link

It's easy to say EL VY's first record, Return to the Moon, isn't a National album; it's more difficult to put a finger on what exactly it is.

I haven't heard the album itself, but if it's anything like the TV performance I saw this weekend, my vote would go to "a tedious waste of everyone involved's time."

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Monday, 2 November 2015 14:30 (eight years ago) link

I have not heard a single note of EL VY (The National, Menomena) but the Pitchfork of the EL VY (The National, Menomena) album this morning didn't really make me want to listen to EL VY (The National, Menomena) all that much

Ina-Garten-Da-Vida (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 02:16 (eight years ago) link

are ppl in this band also in some other bands or something?

Ina-Garten-Da-Vida (Stevie D(eux)), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 02:17 (eight years ago) link

I found it weird that they kept making it sound like Matt Berninger = The National. Same with Menomena to a slightly lesser extent.

Evan, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 14:58 (eight years ago) link

I mean, despite whether it's acceptable formatting or not it still can be misleading.

Evan, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 15:07 (eight years ago) link

Menomena is such a shitty band name that remains shitty after 10 years

bricc baby hitlo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 15:28 (eight years ago) link

Menomena had an interesting video once.

I Am Curious (Dolezal) (DJP), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 15:36 (eight years ago) link

EL VY (The National, Menomena) Cover Fine Young Cannibals' "She Drives Me Crazy" | News
Pitchfork‎ - 2 hours ago

some dude, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 16:17 (eight years ago) link

Good things, where have you gone?

bricc baby hitlo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 16:20 (eight years ago) link

I remember the first Menomena record being relatively tasteful and interesting at the time. The band got less and less interesting from then on.

Evan, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 16:46 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, I saw them on a fine double bill once with Field Music.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 November 2015 16:54 (eight years ago) link

i posted this on "kind of lol, mostly sad" but have since realized i've missed my core audience
http://pitchfork.com/news/61902-sufjan-stevens-covers-drakes-hotline-bling/

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 3 November 2015 17:05 (eight years ago) link

http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/957-hey-whats-up-hello-9-songs-that-say-hi/

Okay, they've posted a lot of boring navel-gazy self indulgent shit but I have never seen something this absurd and lazy from them before. I don't think I realized until this article how pandering they've become, I mean Buzzfeed has written much more interesting music content than this. What IS this!??!

Ina-Garten-Da-Vida (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 6 November 2015 19:30 (eight years ago) link

The "hello, good morning" gets repeated so often, and with so little inflection, that Diddy doesn't sound like he's talking to anyone. He's just repeating the greeting reflexively sans brain activity—which is how you say "hello" to most people most of the time, is the truth.

makes u think

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Friday, 6 November 2015 19:36 (eight years ago) link

hi forks

NATION: ? ? ? (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 6 November 2015 21:12 (eight years ago) link

hello

a llove spat over a llama-keeper (forksclovetofu), Friday, 6 November 2015 22:19 (eight years ago) link

hello good morning

you too could be called a 'Star' by the Compliance Unit (jim in glasgow), Friday, 6 November 2015 22:21 (eight years ago) link


"Drake’s 'Hotline Bling' is another old-guard Drake song about longing for a nebulous time, place, and lover; Sufjan’s 'Hotline Bling' is a brilliant epilogue of survival. It’s some of our only concrete evidence, post-Carrie & Lowell, to suggest that he’s emerged from the darkness with fragments of joy intact. If Stevens can recover from his deepest valleys, swishing around onstage to a Drake song, then why can’t the rest of us?”

I don't even

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 09:03 (eight years ago) link

The whole piece is full of these if you dare:

http://m.pitchfork.com/thepitch/961-hotline-bling-a-song-by-sufjan-stevens/

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 09:06 (eight years ago) link

looool

niels, Wednesday, 11 November 2015 09:39 (eight years ago) link

whoever wrote that is so far down the rabbit hole that i can't imagine there's any light left.

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 10:53 (eight years ago) link

Not all of us can relate to the precise trauma he details on record, but debilitating loss is among life's only guarantees. He understands that everyone walks into a Sufjan Stevens show with their own emotional baggage—whether it’s a roster of departed loved ones, or the people we can't imagine losing. Achieving a shared experience doesn't have to mean participating to the same degree, but for allowing the listener’s vulnerability to shine through. So when Stevens invites Gallant out for the final song, it’s an exuberant reward for everyone who’s spent the past two hours sifting through some serious shit.

Drake’s "Hotline Bling" is another old-guard Drake song about longing for a nebulous time, place, and lover; Sufjan’s "Hotline Bling" is a brilliant epilogue of survival. It’s some of our only concrete evidence, post-Carrie & Lowell, to suggest that he’s emerged from the darkness with fragments of joy intact. If Stevens can recover from his deepest valleys, swishing around onstage to a Drake song, then why can’t the rest of us?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 11:52 (eight years ago) link

The experience and emotions tied to listening to Sufjan's Hotline Bling are like witnessing the stillborn birth of a child while simultaneously having the opportunity to see her play in the afterlife on Imax.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 13:41 (eight years ago) link

http://pitchfork.com/features/articles/9748-what-your-music-format-says-about-you/

I read this to learn more about myself, only found out that I must have a car, which I don't. Illuminating!

Ys Man a.k.a. Have One on G (geoffreyess), Wednesday, 11 November 2015 20:41 (eight years ago) link

lots of dumb in a single sentence:

After a chance connection via a Facebook message, Grammy-winning producer Jack Splash (Kendrick Lamar, John Legend, Jennifer Hudson) has teamed up with none other than Bobby Caldwell - yes, that Bobby Caldwell, the one with the 1978 classic "What You Won't Do For Love" has been sampled on approximately 21.9% of all hip-hop songs ever released—and the result is a smash, taking equal parts funk, pop, smooth jazz, and yacht rock, (!) laying it all down on a solid retro-R&B framework.

expertly crafted referential display name (Jordan), Friday, 13 November 2015 15:08 (eight years ago) link

If Stevens can recover from his deepest valleys, swishing around onstage to a Drake song, then why can’t the rest of us?

P4K does this a lot. The wannabe-profound closing line which suggests the record has important lessons for life and how to live it.

impossible raver (Re-Make/Re-Model), Friday, 13 November 2015 15:19 (eight years ago) link

They're really into pushing the idea of music as therapy

impossible raver (Re-Make/Re-Model), Friday, 13 November 2015 15:19 (eight years ago) link

everybody else is doing it, so why can't we?

insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Friday, 13 November 2015 16:28 (eight years ago) link

now that j-hop has left the building i wonder what the status of the magazine is. i do enjoy doing my little column. guess i could ask someone. i do like that magazine. i swear this thread is the only time i see the online stuff.

scott seward, Friday, 13 November 2015 16:36 (eight years ago) link

xxxxp to jordan: dumb aside, that sentence is a punctuation abomination.

i made a scope for my laser musket out of some (forksclovetofu), Friday, 13 November 2015 16:54 (eight years ago) link

that's really the source of my pain, especially in an opening sentence.

expertly crafted referential display name (Jordan), Friday, 13 November 2015 17:05 (eight years ago) link

Encountered now, in 2015, A People's Instinctive Travels and the Paths of Rhythm feels like a palette cleanser. Considered with Kendrick Lamar's layered and angsty self-examination on To Pimp A Butterfly, the blunting and numbing escapist bounce of Future's DS2, and Drake's bombastic and moody mythological affirmations from If You're Reading This It's Too Late

...what

Van Horn Street, Friday, 13 November 2015 18:02 (eight years ago) link

that review really bugged me, both for its sad "it's relevant to the hip hop of TODAY!" appeal and for its gushing praise of what is maybe 2/3rds a great album. A 10 it is not, if just because Phife's skills are nowhere near what they would become on subsequent records.

Οὖτις, Friday, 13 November 2015 18:13 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, leave some points for low end theory

too young for seapunk (Moodles), Friday, 13 November 2015 18:15 (eight years ago) link

Also, like, as a "reissue" it's just an album that's been in print for 25 years with three new remixes, including one by J Cole

bricc baby hitlo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 13 November 2015 18:51 (eight years ago) link

There's like legit B-sides that could have been on there

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I6BQnm9Bgo

bricc baby hitlo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 13 November 2015 18:52 (eight years ago) link

yeah this doesn't seem like much of a "reissue"

Οὖτις, Friday, 13 November 2015 18:54 (eight years ago) link

"Isn’t Pitchfork supposed to be the gold standard when it comes to reviews?"

well, hmmm....

"Who edited this review?"

well, you know, very busy at the office, you see....

scott seward, Friday, 13 November 2015 19:53 (eight years ago) link

Mosi is great, that's the most generous review anyone's gonna give a Talib Kweli album in 2015, and he doesn't know what a "straw man" is

bricc baby hitlo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 13 November 2015 20:21 (eight years ago) link

i just read the last sentences of p4k reviews now

So even as My Name Is pulls back the curtain on Doug Hream Blunt’s mystery music, it also makes clear that the opposite sex will always remain one to him.

flopson, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 16:04 (eight years ago) link

the opposite sex will always remain a curtain to him?

flopson, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 16:04 (eight years ago) link

irl lol flopson

lex pretend, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 16:22 (eight years ago) link


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