EXTREME METAL Albums Poll - Nominations Round

xp yes! The greatest albums of all time were undoubtedly all on tape cassette with 300 copies made.

If you know about that stuff nominate it then, its your life.

i wouldnt say they were extreme, hell lemmy spent their entire existence saying they're not metal!

xp

i dont know shit about death metal but im glad youre allowing it

Jute Gyte - Discontinuities
Jute Gyte - Vast Chains
Jute Gyte - Ressentiment
Jute Gyte - Ship of Theseus
Dodheimsgard - A Umbra Omega
Dodheimsgard - 666 International
(James Plotkin's) Atomsmasher - Atomsmasher
Orthrelm - OV
Kayo Dot - Dowsing Anemone With Copper Tongue
MUTation - Error 500
Menace Ruine - Venus Armata
Blut Aus Nord - 777 - Cosmosophy
Deathspell Omega - Fas - Ite, Maledicti, In Ignem Aeternum
Lychgate - An Antidote for the Glass Pill
Chrome Hoof - Crush Depth
Dälek - Absence (n.b. this might actually not count as it's really a hip-hop record. that sounds like an extreme metal record)
The Devin Townsend Project - Deconstruction
Esoteric - The Maniacal Vale
The Angelic Process - Weighing Souls With Sand
Koenjihyakkei - Koenji 2 / Viva Koenji!!
Portal - Outré
Sigh - Imaginary Sonicscape
Spektr - Mescalyne
Xasthur - Subliminal Genocide
Xasthur - Defective Epitaph
Zu - Carboniferous

I don't think Motorhead should count fwiw xp's

nm about Arch Enemy btw, I confused them with a different band, they would certainly be allowed.

why would arch enemy not be allowed? you thinking of something else like nightwish?

hah ok

thank you imago, those are good noms. Not sure on Devin Townsend tho...

right, but it's a very blurry line to separate extreme metal from regular old school heavy metal, esp right around the time of Motorhead and Venom. IMO, what really turned heavy metal into extreme metal was the influence of punk, and Motorhead is front and center in that transition. Mind you, I'm not saying they are a "metal" band in the same way Metallica or Slayer is -- but then, neither is Venom, really. Both bands just had a huge hand in creating a world where Metallica and Slayer would make sense, bringing metal out of the Black Sabbath/Rainbow/Deep Purple world.

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That's the only Devin Townsend album (other than SYL) I'd consider 'extreme' but you have to trust me here - it is xp

I'm listening to that specific album now and ok I agree.

Yeah Deconstruction is definitely several shades into the red from the Devin stuff I mentioned earlier.

Also now that those two DHG albums are being brought up I have to add

Dodheimsgard - Kronet til Konge
Dodheimsgard - Monumental Possession

Sorry, that Dälek album is pretty noisey, but IMO its not very metal. I don't think its going on the list...
But this is tough... I dunno. I guess I'll let it slide, it is like weird industrial rap with distorted guitars so... ok.

2edgy4me

which melvins albums count is the tricky one for me

and what about bands like Helmet? not really hardcore not trad metal too noise rock?

or Prong?

How about stuff like Naked City, which is a little bit of everything but certainly informs stuff like, say, Dillinger Escape Plan.

But I think I'm going to veto NWOBHM & 70s heavy hard rock, I gotta draw the line somewhere.

And like I said, I'll side on adding boderline stuff. Stuff such as Helmet and Prong, which are really more hard-driving hard rock I don't think counts, unless there's specific albums of theirs that are very metally. Standard stoner rock stuff is out though.

some Prong stuff was quite thrashy others more industrial metal which you said was allowed

if its like extreme pastiche with bits of metal and other stuff I think it counts (like say, certain Mike Patton stuff).
I don't think there's any Melvins album that's off limits, tbh! But they have ALOT of albums so some of them might be pretty chillax? IDK.

xp sure, specific albums and such that are extreme -- nominate them.

I think
Prong - Beg To Differ
is pretty thrashy and a classic at that. SO Im nominating it.

ok

for those struggling to remember what to nominate this might help (just ignore the trad doom stuff obviously)

http://tinyurl.com/rymextreme

frobisher you could let the wiki entry decide what subgenres are allowed then you can blame that if people complain :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_metal

http://i.imgur.com/ErnaKk0.png

Not really sure you can argue with that tbh and it makes clear what counts

haha ok this is a new subgenre for me
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_and_Anarchist_black_metal

Part of a series on
Marxism

I think you're right CS. I'll have to allow all doom. But I'd like to remind people that pagan & viking metal that's like Nightwish or Edenbridge will be allowed! Basically any power metal that doesn't have heavy breakdowns is out.

That's a pretty good list of genres to choose from, so I think I'll defer to wikipedia here.

Also, stuff that is "kinda doomy" or just stonery doesn't count IMO, I think it has to be exceptionally slow or sludgy or extreme in someother way like psychedelic droning.

i am ever so glad youre running the poll and not me and you have to take the decisions

Anything less heavy than
Candlemass, Trouble and Saint Vitus are out yeah? (theyre the big 3 doom metal bands obviously)

Candlemass - Epicus Doomicus Metallicus
Trouble - Psalm 9
Saint Vitus - Born Too Late

That's a good rubric. Let's go with that.

I'd also include Cathedral in that lineup.

iirc candlemass didnt do very well in my all time metal poll on here years ago. only 1 album and it was outside the top 100. Dont think trouble did much better. Vitus did tho

Candlemass doesn't have the hooks and grooves of Vitus or Trouble.

I read somewhere once that 1981 was the birth of extreme metal. If that's really the case then albums before that shouldnt count?

i know venom and death ss all formed like 77/78 but they didnt have albums out til the 80s.

Also I agree with you that the nwobhm doom bands like witchfinder general or pagan altar should count (as much as I love them)

1981 because Venom released a single and Metallica, Slayer and Anthrax all formed perhaps?

I think we should exclude 70s stuff unless there's a really good case to be made, otherwise we're opening up a whole other can of worms... what about the animals, what about krautrock, etc... this is not the poll for that stuff.

'81 is good unless someone has a pretty extreme album from before that date. I'm happy to use it as a cutoff.

wtf epicus doomicus is a groove monster

Crown, the - Hell Is Here
Crown, the - Deathrace King
Defleshed - Under the Blade
Defleshed - Fast Forward

SPEED FOR SATAN

got them, thanks!

Ok, I finally got the list caught up, so you can now peruse it before you nominate as to avoid dupes. Thank you so much for all the nominations!!

spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WKuG4E8u5i4xOPvs6wq9ZPgGxkAmv1w8YEXVG9HANfI/edit?usp=sharing

And for clarification, I'm going by the subgenres that wikipedia says are extreme metal:

http://i.imgur.com/ErnaKk0.png

Wikiposeria

lol

Yob - Catharsis
Agalloch - Marrow Of The Spirit