So a new UK music mag has launched ....part 66756564 - "Louder Than War"

What "indie" mags are left in the UK now?

the magical belief in the rejuvenating qualities of 'new music' as subscribed to by aging tastemakers is not wrong because it is irrational but because the attempt to assert vitality through consumption is grotesque

― nakhchivan, Friday, September 25, 2015 10:24 AM (53 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i feel like spotify & streaming in general has sort upended my concepts of "new" and "old" music, there's so much old music that is new to me and mixed up with new stuff that's new to me and old stuff that's familiar and new stuff that's familiar and spit out at me from recommendation engines and other ppl's playlists, it's just so easy to skip around from Bach to Jay Rock to Pink Floyd to Kurt Vile to Disclosure, which is basically what I did this morning

How do you know they cover stuff like the Dead Skeletons if you haven't seen a copy yet? Serious question.

I've been reading their website for half a decade.

well played

so the stone roses article is just john robb writing about the 2011 reunion.
I quite like how varied (to a certain extent) the bands are in the mag compared to say the NME but its never going to be a mag for most ILXORS.

just john robb writing about the 2011 reunion of the stone roses as the lead feature on issue 1 of a magazine first published in 2015

it can only be uphill from there. I love the roses but the article is pointless but clearly they need a big cover star to sell the mag.

At least it wasnt Oasis.

It might still cover some ilx friendly music though.

lol i guess

though they didnt even get the cover star for an interview right?

that's nothing for the roses. nme back in the day did that. The roses didn't really do interviews a lot. They were awkward fuckers (part of their appeal)

their comeback with the second coming interview was with The Big Issue instead of NME/MM.

NME didnt like that.

the magical belief in the rejuvenating qualities of 'new music' as subscribed to by aging tastemakers is not wrong because it is irrational but because the attempt to assert vitality through consumption is grotesque

― nakhchivan, Friday, September 25, 2015 9:24 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

god thank you!

I do like Mansun but that was the biggest wtf for me with this mag, nilmar.
If the cover star hadnt been the stone roses LJ would probably have dug it

I dont see any general mags selling in 2015. Niche mags are clearly the way to go

This I suppose will give you an idea of what they will cover

http://i.imgur.com/ih45qGx.jpg

o did Sealings move to Brighton

all good Oxford bands (and some of the bad ones) move to Brighton

(perhaps it is a different Sealings)

similarly, John Robb used to like some good stuff, and plenty of bad stuff

his "this is the real deal punk! rock!" schtick was always kind of exhausting either way but fair play to him for still being out there enthusing I guess

the cover is really quite unenticing but that page from the inside is slightly more encouraging, was thinking I might pick this up if I see a copy, but then I squinted at the price tag and at a fiver no, I probably won't

most of the mags cost that now I think and I suppose as its quarterly its not too bad.

Classic Pop I think is more expensive

I know what the clincher will be for you rebecca that will make you buy it

http://i.imgur.com/TbpwsR2.jpg

OK, you made that up!

argh

come back Plan B, they gave me a nice DAF CD and some coldwave comp or other for subscribing iirc

(yes, please be made up. top notch photoshop skillz if so)

I have no such skills

CTCL , LLSS and Plan B were great mags

o did Sealings move to Brighton

all good Oxford bands (and some of the bad ones) move to Brighton

(perhaps it is a different Sealings)

― a passing spacecadet, Saturday, September 26, 2015 12:05 AM (12 minutes ago)

I think they might have been at uni at Oxford, actually, so quite possibly the same ones? (They are m8s, innit.)

This looks fucking shit. Though my interaction with LTW online has always been "oh, a link to that place, it's supposed to be alright iirc... oh no, wait, it's a pile of bollocks".

http://i.imgur.com/8Yum5qK.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/u1Yv2op.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/9Xds93D.jpg

Are we actually supposed to read those or.....

just letting people know the contents. Sorry if the pics arent great

Please don't say "if you don't like a thread, don't read it"

Help me out here, are we supposed to point and laugh?

wait you bought this? what is happening, i thought we were making fun of britrock bands

i kinda like it for that alternative universe vibe. like looking at christian rock magazines. a world where people still listen to old mansun cds...it might as well be sci-fi to me. but it's just a culture thing. korean music magazines would be just as foreign to me. maximo park! i mean what on earth could they sound like? feels like i've seen that name forever.

xp

yeah I bought it as I wanted something to read while waiting for my opticians appointment

unbelievable how long stone roses can run on two albums. isn't it? are they rich from those records? talked about endlessly since 1994! that is truly impressive. how many words in the u.k. print world have been written about those dudes? millions maybe.

haha sex pistols did one

is it strictly a British thing?

do young british people listen to the stone roses or is just old geezers who look like the sleaford mods who still listen to them?

i dunno, i would have to think really hard to come up with a band who released so little music who have gotten as much ink in the u.s. as the roses have. there aren't really any music mags here though. it's not like you read about big star everywhere here. bad example anyway. the stone roses are ALWAYS in british music mags.

i guess The La's beat even the roses though. i'm sure mojo still writes about them.

I have seen two girls about 12 who live near me wearing Stone Roses and Nirvana tshirts. That's the kind of level they are. Sure i bet they are seen as the "weird kids" in school but those into music always were.

Stone Roses were very important to a section of people my * age (not just guys I may say)

*inc me

Scott are there a lot of niche magazines in the US or are they just general music types? Anything that covers 'indie'?

uhhhhhh, is Magnet still a magazine? or Alternative Press? they are the only indie ones i can think of and they might be out of business by now. there are a lot less places to BUY magazines in the U.S. now. you can still always find Mojo and Uncut and the Wire though. i buy Ugly Things when it comes out. that's about the only U.S. music zine i buy.

and i still get Decibel in the mail free every month. because they like me.

Decibel is really the only kinda-big U.S. music magazine that is any good. in my opinion.

there is wax poetics. but i consider that more of a niche/zine thing like an ugly things. smaller in scale than decibel. and i rarely see it anywhere anymore.

I wonder why metal print mags survive and indie ones cant? (Metal was never mainstream here)
Especially here in the UK where niche of a niche metal mags can survive

Kerrang (Ok not metal now but the only rock mag that has more than 50% female readership)
Terrorizer
Zero Tolerance
Iron Fist
Rockarolla
Big Cheese

xp

I have a digital sub to Decibel as I cant get the mag here and the print mag is too expensive to import

While they do overlap sometimes they also cover a lot of stuff the others dont.
and probably others i forgot/dont know about.

metal fans are to the death. they will buy anything metal.

Alternative Press is definitely still around, and thriving. They just had a 30th anniversary exhibit at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, actually. I'm really impressed by what they do, even though I don't write for them anymore (I stopped last year). They know exactly who their audience is - basically teenagers through people in their early 20s - and they cater to them incredibly well. Whether or not you like what they cover is one thing, but you would almost never look at an issue of AP and think, "Why is that band in here?"

U.K. mags in general just vastly superior to anything here. but there isn't much left here. but even the U.K. mags with Joe Bonnamassa on the cover are LEAGUES better in every way. design, layout, writing, art, photos, everything.

AP has always been good at what they do. and years ago they covered metal that no other non-metal mag would. i just haven't seen a copy in years.

I don't think I'd ever see it if I didn't have a subscription. Same reason I still see Down Beat (which is horrible, btw - hideous covers, awful layouts, and astonishingly bad writing); I vote in their annual critics' poll, and every year everybody who votes in the poll gets a year's subscription as a thank-you.