Quintron obv
― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 24 September 2015 19:57 (nine years ago) link
I saw the Tampa show with Rah Bras, and the Brooklyn show with Avey/Panda iirc
It's kinda annoying that the only bands mentioned in those articles that are from the West Coast were the Locust and Erase Errata (i am a major fan of the latter). It's the standard alt-journalism thing though: the premise is that they are surveying "the underground" but then they only pick a certain part of it and just ignore the rest, and don't even do the boilerplate "vibrant scenes also exist in these other places i am not going to write about"
― sarahell, Thursday, 24 September 2015 20:03 (nine years ago) link
what bands would you have included in this thread from the West Coast & etc?
― sleeve, Thursday, 24 September 2015 20:07 (nine years ago) link
which west coast noise band would win in a fight?
― nakhchivan, Thursday, 24 September 2015 20:10 (nine years ago) link
Well, also, the real ground zero WAS Providence, Rhode Island, which ultimately became a filter to/from brooklyn and baltimore, there's no way around that
― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 24 September 2015 20:12 (nine years ago) link
I think it's great that they got so much attention. Nice people! Very industrious.
― sarahell, Thursday, 24 September 2015 20:20 (nine years ago) link
Providence would be nothing without GX Jupitter-Larsen.
― welltris (crüt), Thursday, 24 September 2015 20:22 (nine years ago) link
hahah and he's from the West Coast! (nb do not make pirate jokes to GX's face)
― sarahell, Thursday, 24 September 2015 20:23 (nine years ago) link
ha that was the point I was trying to make!
― welltris (crüt), Thursday, 24 September 2015 20:23 (nine years ago) link
also, uh, that other '70s Cali industrial noise guy who we don't need to talk about
― welltris (crüt), Thursday, 24 September 2015 20:24 (nine years ago) link
haha
― sleeve, Thursday, 24 September 2015 20:25 (nine years ago) link
16 Bitch Pile Up -- seen them do awesome sets, seen them do ok setsAir Conditioning -- no ideaBurning Star Core -- might just have seen him play solo? kinda a drone bro iirc. Can't -- i think the first time i saw her, it was a wtf of the best kind, in that i actually can remember itDead Machines -- don't rememberDouble Leopards -- i think they were overrated? not sure if i ever saw them tbhExcepter -- only heard tracks from albumsFat Day -- no ideaFat Worm of Error -- saw them 3/4 times? awesome most of the timeForcefield -- no ideaFriends Forever -- hahaha memorable show, band had lots of incarnations iircGang Wizard -- really good? iirc, might not rcHair Police -- i do not rcHive Mind -- nice guy, okJohn Weise -- prefer Sissy Spacek, had at least one friend who had a major crush on the dudeKites -- don't rememberLanded -- no clueMagik Markers -- dude stole my towel, not sure how many people at the show actually liked them, or just showed up because they were supposed to like them or to hang with friendsMammal -- no ideaMetalux -- only saw MV Carbon solo; really good iircMindflayer -- don't rememberMonotract/Carlos Giffoni -- opening act was way betterMouthus -- really good, but might not rcNautical Almanac -- fineNeon Hunk -- don't rememberNoise Nomads -- no referrer, can't tellPrurient -- don't rememberRusted Shut -- no idea if i ever saw/booked them; too lazy to researchSick Llama -- no ideaSightings -- i actually never saw themWolf Eyes -- did not see any shows w/them w/dilloway; i saw them play in brooklyn w/Richard Pinhas of Heldon and have probably posted the hilarious story related to that on several threads alreadyYellow Swans -- saw/booked these guys so many times; saw each of them solo in the past couple years. really nice guys. a bit too dronebro for me, but solid
― sarahell, Thursday, 24 September 2015 20:47 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVOZeT2W6Bo
― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 24 September 2015 21:13 (nine years ago) link
^ another west coast legend
― welltris (crüt), Thursday, 24 September 2015 21:18 (nine years ago) link
xp i have not smoked weed since 1997
― sarahell, Thursday, 24 September 2015 21:26 (nine years ago) link
worth mentioning-needlegundj dog dicknarwhalz (of sound)teeth mountaingrasslungwzt hearts
― flappy bird, Thursday, 24 September 2015 21:31 (nine years ago) link
that stuff all comes later
― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 24 September 2015 21:31 (nine years ago) link
Wham City era
― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 24 September 2015 21:32 (nine years ago) link
i think this "era" extends to 2007, based on releases, tours, audiences
― sarahell, Thursday, 24 September 2015 21:34 (nine years ago) link
Sarahell, just curious what qualifies something as "dronebro" stuff for you? Not in a defensive way or what have you, but honestly just wondering what fits the tag vs. other stuff.
― grandavis, Thursday, 24 September 2015 21:44 (nine years ago) link
I mean, if it is simply dudes who used drones in a standard way, I get it hah hah.
moanwave
― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 24 September 2015 21:45 (nine years ago) link
sustained broness
― welltris (crüt), Thursday, 24 September 2015 21:45 (nine years ago) link
i think this era extends to at least 2009/2010, ending with the last whartscape
― flappy bird, Thursday, 24 September 2015 21:51 (nine years ago) link
Baltimore Wham Cityness A) owes so, so, so much to Fort Thunder and PaperRad and B) Completely went in sync with "internet music journalism"
There were/are great moments for sure, but it's its own era, come on
― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:15 (nine years ago) link
I'm with Whiney on this one. Obviously any number of these artists kept at it, and similar artists came up, but the depth and vitality of this particular iteration of noise-punk scene dwindled somewhere around a decade ago.
― intheblanks, Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:16 (nine years ago) link
Also by vitality I mean the sheer number of acts releasing music and touring. It really was shocking the number of two-pieces putting together interesting noise records on, like Load, Narnack, 5RC, or just through sending CD-Rs to college ratio stations.
― intheblanks, Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:19 (nine years ago) link
― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, September 24, 2015 6:15 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
true, there was overlap but wham city wouldn't exist without fort thunder by their own admission
― flappy bird, Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:29 (nine years ago) link
wham city was barely doing anything in the timeframe provided by the thread
― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:42 (nine years ago) link
i know, i meant band overlap, lots of them played whartscape & were still active when it ended, s'all i meant
― flappy bird, Thursday, 24 September 2015 22:52 (nine years ago) link
Yellow Swans were west coast, that's why y'all be hating.
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Friday, 25 September 2015 06:35 (nine years ago) link
Black Dice most underrated band of the last ~~~x years?
― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, September 24, 2015 2:45 PM (Yesterday)
moanwave (whiney knows this, but for the benefit of everyone else, and uh, posterity?): generally a solo project involving vocals, pedals, often a sampler, sometimes a drum machine and/or ipad is also used. the key element of moanwave is the vocals, which are run through effects, especially reverb (lots and lots of reverb), sometimes looped and layered, and rarely involving words. Mostly "oh" and "ooh" and "ah".
dronebro sometimes solo, sometimes in a group, 99% male. not every dude who makes drone music is a dronebro. The dronebro likes his shit loud and is often a big fan of doom metal. Sometimes the dronebro will refer to his music as doom metal or a similar genre, but there is rarely ever a drummer in dronebrodom, unless all the drummer is doing is cymbal swells, lots and lots of cymbal swells. Most dronebros play guitar or bass, occasionally violin or another classical string instrument. Some of them play analog synths, and the dronebrodown involves the esoteric expensive nature of the gear, rather than overdrive and distortion pedals run through huge amps or a powerful PA.
― sarahell, Friday, 25 September 2015 08:08 (nine years ago) link
Hah hah, thanks Sarahell. Makes perfect sense.
I do not hate Yellow Swans. I was just underwhelmed by them considering the considerable love they get (i.e., I do not know many people who hold my opinion that are into this stuff). I was also really underwhelmed by Mouthus, who were east coast jammers. Two times I saw them it was a big ball of mush with no dynamics, but I mean this was just the two shows I saw. Could have been bad nights, which most of these bands had.
― grandavis, Friday, 25 September 2015 13:35 (nine years ago) link
From a home listening pov, would take Halve Maen by Double Leopards over any other disc by ppl on this list
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Friday, 25 September 2015 13:47 (nine years ago) link
rocking some Kites right now
― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 25 September 2015 15:23 (nine years ago) link
I think DRONEBRO is a SF phenomenon abedded by aughts Aquarius Records and their penchant for writing variations of "DOOOOOOOM" in their descriptions
― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 25 September 2015 15:32 (nine years ago) link
That Kites/Prurient split disc on Load is great, prob all the Pru you need
― sʌxihɔːl (Ward Fowler), Friday, 25 September 2015 15:46 (nine years ago) link
ouch, reading moanwave, and thinking about many people I know and/or have dated in the Bay
― Dominique, Friday, 25 September 2015 15:52 (nine years ago) link
PLEASURE GROUND is the only prurient you ever need
― flappy bird, Friday, 25 September 2015 15:54 (nine years ago) link
uh, Caroliner?
and this was actually the first band that came to mind for me
― Dominique, Friday, 25 September 2015 15:55 (nine years ago) link
Kites was really cool live. I still play "Peace Trials".
― grandavis, Friday, 25 September 2015 16:01 (nine years ago) link
Caroliner = 90snoise
― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 25 September 2015 16:01 (nine years ago) link
Yeah Caroliner was inactive during this period. Grux was doing Rubber O Cement and Hans Grusels Krankenkabinet, Gregg was in full-on Neil Hamburger mode and Trey was doing Mr Bungle/Secret Chiefs. Not sure what happened to Brendan...
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 25 September 2015 16:34 (nine years ago) link
uh Caroliner was active during this period. Pretty sure they did at least one US tour, and I know I saw them play at least a couple local gigs.
The people you are mentioning Al, were members of Faxed Head. Different band.
― sarahell, Friday, 25 September 2015 21:36 (nine years ago) link
― Dominique, Friday, September 25, 2015 8:52 AM (5 hours ago)
hahaha, i was gonna tell Whiney to ask geeta about her former roommate's music, which is "classic" moanwave
― sarahell, Friday, 25 September 2015 21:38 (nine years ago) link
Did she live with Best Coast?
― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 25 September 2015 22:23 (nine years ago) link
lol she lived with an ex-gf of Dominique
― sarahell, Friday, 25 September 2015 22:28 (nine years ago) link
I vote for Faxed head
― brimstead, Friday, 25 September 2015 22:30 (nine years ago) link