Year-End Critics' Polls '07

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^ I didn't write this. But W.B. did write this:

"*Fiat ars--pereat mundus*," says Fascism, and, as Marinetti admits, expects war to supply the artistic gratification of a sense perception that has been changed by technology. This is evidently the consummation of "*I'art pour l'art*." Mankind, which in Homer's time was an object of contemplation for the Olympian gods, now is one for itself. Its self-alienation has reached such a degree that it can experience its own destruction as an aesthetic pleasure of the first order. This is the situation of politics which Fascism is rendering aesthetic. Communism responds by politicizing art.

Mordechai Shinefield, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 21:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Indie has reached such a degree that is can experience its own destruction as an aesthetic pleasure of the first order?

Mordechai Shinefield, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 21:08 (sixteen years ago) link

"Oy, MIA, you've got me all bugaboo."

http://www.braungardt.com/Theology/Benjamin/Benjamin.jpg

scott seward, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 21:10 (sixteen years ago) link

At some point the perjorative 'college rock' falls out of favor, and 'indie rock' (isn't this a british term?) becomes the descriptor of choice for the whole musical preferences of this demographics.

this post is funny and also mostly true, but this bit of the trajectory misses the big vigged-up elephant of nirvana and the attendant "alternative nation" era, which complicated the calculus considerably by briefly pitching a sizable chunk of the college-rock-era underground squarely into the mainstream, getting major-label deals for everybody and for a little while making it hard to separate out what was what. when the dust settled "indie" was on one side, veering off toward pavement, tortoise, gybe and lord knows whatall, and various other forms were left lodged in the commercial marketplace, including most obviously grunge but also assorted popped-up takes on '80s forms (the replacements begat the goo-goo dolls and gin blossoms, the pixies begat the breeders, soul asylum begat soul asylum, etc). no surprise then that '90s amerindie, as it became "indie," wrapped itself in lo-fi and post-rock and whatever other kinds of sonic and compositional signifiers it could use to put some distance back between itself and the gaping mass culture maw.

tipsy mothra, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link

has there been a link to all these ilxors making 2007 mix-tape yet:

http://www.paperthinwalls.com/feature/mixtape2007

scott seward, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 21:48 (sixteen years ago) link

probably. i'm slow.

scott seward, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 21:48 (sixteen years ago) link

The universality of knowledge of everything local means that, since rare knowledge is currency, everything outside indie (jazz/'world music') will be slowly absorbed into indie

This has a really ominous ring to it.

Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 04:09 (sixteen years ago) link

They give a whole top 50 along with top 10's for each of their review genres, but I can't be bothered typing those right now...

-- krakow

more please!

Bee OK, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 05:31 (sixteen years ago) link

or it should read, can you post of the rest of the Wire list.

Bee OK, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 05:32 (sixteen years ago) link

Metacritic with my predicted rankings (not very insightful):
1 Untrue by Burial - Will make top 20 (more critics seem to be listening to metal, but i don't think enough to get it in the top 10)
2 From Here We Go Sublime by the Field - Will make top 20 and maybe sneak in at 9 or 10
3 In Rainbows by Radiohead - Top 10, obv. Probably Top 5
4 And Their Refinement Of The Decline by Stars Of The Lid - Will make top 30 and, maybe, just barely make the top 20
5 Raising Sand by Robert Plant And Alison Krauss - Not that cool with hipster critics, a Top 20 for sure...I think the old people might get this into the top 10
6 Let's Stay Friends by Les Savy Fav - Not that cool with the old people, right? 25-30, probably
7 Neon Bible by The Arcade Fire - One for the whole family! Top 5, probably
8 Children Running Through by Patty Griffin - She's old. Probably in the 20-25 range
9 Kala by M.I.A. - A welcome guest! Top 10 for sure, hopefully top 5
10 Sound Of Silver by LCD Soundsystem - Same as M.I.A.
11 Comicopera by Robert Wyatt - Old. Probably around 40?
12 Person Pitch by Panda Bear - Top 15
13 Mirrored by Battles - For sure top 20, probably in the 8-12 range
14 45:33 by LCD Soundsystem Nowhere (last year, right?)
15 Boxer by The National A favorite for the old people and the hipsters...Top 15 at least
16 New Moon by Elliott Smith Too old. Around 33-37
17 Crazy Ex-Girlfriend by Miranda Lambert Hmm...An interesting one...Hopefully top 10 but probably around 15-20
18 Ire Works by The Dillinger Escape Plan 25-30
19 The World Has Made Me The Man Of My Dreams by Me'Shell NdegéOcello She's on a Batman soundtrack. Uh, 50-60?
20 Ga Ga Ga Ga Ga by Spoon - Top 10. Not sure why it's this low on Metacritic. Actually, I know why it's this low. I don't know why so many magazines are rating it really high. But they are. I think it's because a huge number of people list it in the 8-20 range. That starts to add up.

Tape Store, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 06:07 (sixteen years ago) link

burial isn't metal

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 19 December 2007 06:10 (sixteen years ago) link

m.i.a. will be #1

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 19 December 2007 06:10 (sixteen years ago) link

Hahaha, Burial is most definitely not metal.

The Reverend, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 06:17 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hI4bSCy9iE

The Reverend, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 06:19 (sixteen years ago) link

I actually am optimistic that LCD will win.

The Reverend, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 06:22 (sixteen years ago) link

i'm holding out for a panda bear sweep followed by a noah lennox/mordechai shinefield ticket in '08

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 19 December 2007 06:25 (sixteen years ago) link

gotta appeal to all bases

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 19 December 2007 06:25 (sixteen years ago) link

BURIAL NEEDS TO CHANGE ITS NAME

Tape Store, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 06:39 (sixteen years ago) link

PEOPLE ASSUME THINGS, YKNOW

Tape Store, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 06:39 (sixteen years ago) link

burial makes me yawwwwn

sam500, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 06:40 (sixteen years ago) link

I hear Burial's next album is a collaboration with Sammy Hagar.

The Reverend, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 06:43 (sixteen years ago) link

The first Burial album is quite yawnsome. I like the new one, though.

The Reverend, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 06:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Hey, it's like the Postal Service meets a Michael Andrews score!

Tape Store, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 06:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Whatdayaknow?!

Tape Store, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 06:44 (sixteen years ago) link

And they call this 'dubstep'?

Tape Store, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 06:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Yes, they do, although the way I understand it, Burial is peripheral to the scene.

The Reverend, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 06:47 (sixteen years ago) link

My prediction still stands. A lot of critics are listening to dubstep. But not enough to get it in the top 10.

Tape Store, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 06:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Fair 'nuff.

The Reverend, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 06:53 (sixteen years ago) link

it won't even crack the top 20.

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 19 December 2007 06:55 (sixteen years ago) link

jackin pop (or w/e) it might but def not p&j

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 19 December 2007 06:55 (sixteen years ago) link

We should probably take this particular line here: Oh No, Pass the Lord and Praise the Ammunition--It’s Time for the 2007 P&J / Jackin’ Pop Prognostication Thread!

The Reverend, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 07:01 (sixteen years ago) link

The Wire : 2007 Rewind 50 Records Of The Year

01 Robert Wyatt - Comicopera (Domino)
02 Burial - Untrue (Hyperdub)
03 Panda Bear - Person Pitch (Paw Tracks)
04 OM - Pilgrimage (Southern Lord)
05 LCD Soundsystem - Sound Of Silver (DFA/EMI)
06 Von Südenfed - Tromatic Reflexxions (Domino)
07 Pram - The Moving Frontier (Domino)
08 MIA - Kala (XL)
09 Battles - Mirrored (Warp)
10 Ricardo Villalobos - Fabric 36 (Fabric)

11 Grinderman - Grinderman (Mute)
12 Kassin+2 - Futurismo (Luaka Bop)
13 Matthew Dear - Asa Breed (Ghostly)
14 Strategy - Future Rock (Kranky)
15 Laub - Deinetwegen (AGF Producktion)
16 Björk - Volta (One Little Indian)
17 Pole - Steingarten (~scape)
18 Harmonia - Live 1974 (Grönland)
19 John Butcher - The Geometry Of Sentiment (Emanem)
20 Akio Suzuki - K7 Box (ALM)

21 Deerhunter - Cryptograms (Kranky)
22 Lil' Wayne - Da Drought 3 (Mixtape) (No Label)
23 Peter Evans Quartet - Peter Evans Quartet (Firehouse 12)
24 James Blackshaw - The Cloud Of Unknowing (Tompkins Square)
25 Kemialliset Ystävät - Kemialliset Ystävät (Fonal)
26 Pandit Pran Nath - Raga Cycle (SRI Moonshine)
27 Flower-Corsano Duo - The Radiant Mirror (Textile)
28 Electrelane - No Shouts, No Calls (Too Pure)
29 Zeitkratzer & Lou Reed - Metal Machine Music (Asphodel)
30 Gudrun Gut - I Put A Record On (Monika Enterprise)

31 Marnie Stern - In Advance Of The Broken Arm (Kill Rock Stars)
32 Throbbing Gristle - Part Two: The Endless Not (Mute)
33 Rhys Chatham - The Crimson Grail (Table Of The Elements)
34 Radiohead - In Rainbows (www.inrainbows.com/XL)
35 The Focus Group - We Are All Pan's People (Ghost Box)
36 The Terminals - Last Days Of The Sun (Last Visible Dog)
37 Sightings - Through The Panama (Load)
38 Anthony Braxton - 9 Compositions Iridium 2006 (Firehouse 12)
39 Steve Jansen - Slope (Samadhisound)
40 Haswell & Hecker - Blackest Ever Black (Warner Classics)

41 Colleen - Les Ondes Silencieuses (Leaf)
42 Dial - 168K (Cede)
43 Wooden Shjips - Wooden Shjips (Holy Mountain)
44 fORCH - Spin Networks (PSI)
45 PJ Harvey - White Chalk (Island)
46 Hanne Hukkelberg - Rykestrasse 68 (Nettwerk)
47 Susan Howe & David Grubbs - Souls Of The Labadie Tract (Blue Chopsticks)
48 Lichens - Omns (Kranky)
49 Low - Drums And Guns (Sub Pop)
50 Frank Bretschneider - Rhythm (Raster-Norton)

krakow, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 07:54 (sixteen years ago) link

people voting for studio in this years idolator poll, are you voting for west coast or yearbook 1?

max, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 09:01 (sixteen years ago) link

^^i was gonna ask this question in the studio thread but didn't bother. seeing yearbook 1 on the pfork list got me confused though. right now i have west coast even though i like yearbook 1 better. would like an answer to this.

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 19 December 2007 09:15 (sixteen years ago) link

west coast was "technically" 2006 right? not that i really care about being date-anal but this is a great record both ways and id love to see these guys place sorta high.

max, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 09:18 (sixteen years ago) link

I still haven't gotten around to hearing the Studio at all.

The Reverend, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 09:21 (sixteen years ago) link

oy i thought yearbook 1 was technically 06 but studio 07. or at least was released in the US in 07. like max i don't care about the release date as much as bumping the album up on the list.

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 19 December 2007 09:24 (sixteen years ago) link

Walter Benjamin (Sterling Clover?) OTM! (As is tipsy, duh--no surprise there.)

massive catching-up-with-ILM-in-da-morning x-post

JN$OT, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 10:08 (sixteen years ago) link

It's impossible to search for the Studio on youtube, is there any specific song I should be looking for?

The Reverend, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 11:11 (sixteen years ago) link

The first Burial album is quite yawnsome. I like the new one, though.

I never heard the first one, but the new one sounded to me like early Faithless with all the songs taken out, which seemed vaguely pleasant, though I still got bored with it pretty quick. (And I still don't get at all why people consider them so amazing.)

Two albums I'm surprised not to be seeing on any lists (which is okay, since people had totally overrating both of them, but it's still kind of sad):

1. The Stooges
2. Mary Weiss

xhuxk, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 11:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Also, this:

From Here We Go Sublime by the Field - Will make top 20 and maybe sneak in at 9 or 10

is almost as funny as this:

Untrue by Burial - Will make top 20 (more critics seem to be listening to metal, but i don't think enough to get it in the top 10)

But I still can't tell if they're funny on purpose or not.

xhuxk, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 12:10 (sixteen years ago) link

The Reverend, they have a nifty little promotional video on youtube here.

Tim F, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 12:14 (sixteen years ago) link

Also, fwiw, I thought this was (intentionally) funny too:

Let's Stay Friends by Les Savy Fav - Not that cool with the old people, right? 25-30, probably

But, from Robert Christgau's end-of-year-so-far list in Slate:

13. Les Savy Fav: Let's Stay Friends (Frenchkiss)

http://www.slate.com/id/2179977/entry/2180085

xhuxk, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 12:21 (sixteen years ago) link

KERRANG Album Of The Year 2007 (BIFFY CLYRO WTF???)

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 12:25 (sixteen years ago) link

i like the wire list. i haven't received my copy yet so i don't know the genre top 10s. but it's great that i can see that wire list and know that i'll have a lot of stuff to look into during the next few months. most other lists have virtually no surprises, though that's maybe because i read more reviews this year.

and yea, i totally forgot that bjork came out with an album this year!

i need to hear the robert wyatt album, too.

Mark Clemente, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 14:43 (sixteen years ago) link

okay, time to ask the crowd: including an unreleased album from '06 that I first heard in '07 (and hardly anyone else has heard it and no one else will vote for it) on my top ten list because it is one of the best albums I have ever heard: awesome or stupid?

Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 15:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Awesome and stoopid!

Ioannis, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 15:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Regarding Studio -- I'm voting for West Coast.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 15:50 (sixteen years ago) link

xp

Neither awesome nor stupid, though perfectly okay. (Bomshel, who completely fit that definiton, had a {long }shot at my list, though they won't make it. And Ashley Monroe -- who, at one point anyway, I think Frank Kogan said he was considering, at least for his Nashville Scene ballot -- is in that category too, right?)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 15:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Okay -- I have decided that for all the time and $$ I have spent trying to hear all the best stuff in the universe this year, my list should be the greatest one in history. I think having Fefe Dobson at #1 would pretty much ice that forever.

Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 19 December 2007 15:57 (sixteen years ago) link


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