Why do white people criticize one another for being white?

white music? synesthesia alert!

personally I don't fetishize those particular sufferings at all, no. do you?

Guy I know was criticizing Rachel Getting Married recently on the basis that their house is too awesome for their problems to be worth caring about.

http://maxgif.com/152

lol

A+ thread revive singlehandedly turned my shitty day around. Your bouquet of roses is in the mail

(the gif did, I mean. Fuck whatever people were saying in this thread, probably)

(the gif did, I mean. Fuck whatever people were saying in this thread, probably)

lol yeah the white guy who started this thread, what was he thinking

I've not read anyone describe anything as "white boy" music in many years. Probably as I stopped going on NOTBBC as it was fucking terrible

you haven't read ilx in years i assume too?

"the white guy who started this thread" ugh what a strawman (xpost to aero)

"self-aware whites who listen to indie rock and have "opinions" on shit like Stuff White..."

Self-regarding is a better description for this than self-aware. Its a backhanded compliment to say that white people are always in on the joke when they're being satirized. Apparently nothing gets past self aware white people with their irony and sense of the ridic.

ilx: i've never seen such indignant white people in all my life.

whites are a beastly race

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please tell me she's not dancing to "pony"

whites are a beastly race

― the late great, Tuesday, June 12, 2012 12:49 AM (11 hours ago)

the most inept flayers of beasts and scorchers of grass

O weird. when I followed that first link to the bristol gif earlier, my phone didn't display the flashing "WHITE PPL" text, I swear! I was just laffing at her face

(... and at the idea that someone would see a bristol palin animated gif and immediately think of this thread)

All you middle-class white assholes always pull this shit. (I'm a working-class white asshole, so it's okay for me to say this)

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, March 28, 2003 12:39 PM (9 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Kinda wonder whether Y. would still describe himself that way.

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/04vogFRgWNeUw/576x.jpg

uh, holy shit. how did i not know that one of our own cofounded kickstarter?

ilx: i've never seen such indignant white people in all my life.

gonna be at my desk cracking up all day and am not gonna be able to explain why

I prefer the term "caucasian" for "race". White has cultural connotations. Some day really soon it's going to seem like a stupid term.

it really doesnt but people try to make it that way

rewind, rewrite -- obv it has 'cultural connotations' b/c thats all it is, but the way its typically used in these convos is coded for 'middle class'

lol @ suggestion that "caucasian" does not have cultural connotations

The term "Caucasian race" was coined by the German philosopher Christoph Meiners in his The Outline of History of Mankind (1785).[4] In Meiners' unique racial classification, there were only two racial divisions (Racen): Caucasians ("white and beautiful") and Mongolians ("brown and ugly"). These terms were used as a collective representative of what Meiners personally regarded as good looking and far less attractive, based solely on the appearance of the skin of the face, for example the Germans and the Tartars he considered Caucasian, and the best looking, while Jews, Slavs and Native Americans as Mongolian, and ugly in the face.

like let's not pretend these nomenclatures are based on science or logic or anything, because they aren't

so ugly

in the face

Sure, "Mongoloid" and "Negroid" sounds terrible today, but at least it relates to geography and not skin color. What do you suggest (instead of "white" or "Caucasian")?

what

haven't really read this thread, but seeing the title today has got this song stuck in my head all morning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfbVN48TdUM

The "Caucasian race" was grafted by the evil scientist Dr. Yakub in his secret cave laboratory in the Caucus Mountains.[4] In Clarence 13Xs' unique racial classification, there were only two racial divisions (Racen): white devils ("white man") and the original man ("black man"). These terms were used as a collective representative of what 13x personally regarded as politricks, based solely on the 85 percent's lack of overstanding and inability to study their lessons, despite the 5 percent nation of gods and earths' efforts to educate.

― retro-shittified (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:52 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fixed

hahaha

lol

Sure, "Mongoloid" and "Negroid" sounds terrible today, but at least it relates to geography and not skin color.

not really - it's totally arbitrary (Tartars are Caucasian but Slavs are not even though both are from the same region in Europe. Why? because Slavs are ugly in the face of course)

Tatars were from Mongolia originally, just to make it funnier

well yeah as with any of these terms, how far back do you wanna go...

there is some use - for historians at any rate - in talking about cultural identities, migration and settlement. the problem is that a lot of pre-20th century thinking about these things garbled it up with race mentalism and measuring skulls etc etc

I would never identify as "caucasian" and hate when forms require me to do so--it's amazing to me that such a stupid, pseudoscientific notion can have such a long half-life. "White" is dumb because A.) i'm pinkish-yellow B.) The notion of one unified 'white (european) race' was fabricated in the 17th century as legal justification for denying rights to 'non-whites', so.

"Anglo" is okay w/ me because I think of it as more of a linguistic thing. I am uncomfortable when latino coworkers use "negro" but have not told them to stop and can't really imagine doing so. I don't particularly care for "gringo" but am good-humored about it.

Anything else?

i probably just put white, it's been awhile.

or caucasian. i do as i'm told

I'm a Jew, nobody can agree what we are

i mark 'other' and write in 'fabulous'

forms asking you to specify race are already hopelessly outdated, I expect them to disappear entirely within my lifetime

then just write "pinkish-yellow"
obviously having to identify a race on a form is stupid but I can only remember like, three times when I've had to do this

complaining about using the term "white" because it's dumb strikes me as weird ; the terms are obviously stupid and not really accurate but that's not really the point of them is it?

actually that is totally the point of them

step away from the race thread xp

"I expect them to disappear entirely within my lifetime"

you're gonna live 300 years?

since they're very rarely actually white, i move we refer to them as wites

actually that is totally the point of them

the point of them is to be intelligent terms that accurately describe a person's color?

step away from the race thread xp

hey there's this new "flag post" feature, you can just hit that button instead of playing thread police, it's really neat