what's with the blackface-style language some of the writers are using to talk about this?
― sarahell, Sunday, July 5, 2015 12:20 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
is there a godwin's law for this
― for sale: baby shoes, never worn your ass (katherine), Sunday, 5 July 2015 06:33 (eight years ago) link
Meaghan Garvey: There’s a very simple A$AP Yams tweet that’s stuck with me for years.
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Sunday, 5 July 2015 06:44 (eight years ago) link
the tweet is 'Never vocalise the vision.' it's from august 2013
isnt there like one white writer in the entire group
― supreme problematics (D-40), Sunday, 5 July 2015 06:57 (eight years ago) link
not to cape for played out slang useage in music journalism or anything but uhh
― supreme problematics (D-40), Sunday, 5 July 2015 06:58 (eight years ago) link
feel like the thing i quoted is p dumb regardless of ethnicity
idk i don't really have a handle on what pitchfork is 'like' anymore
― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Sunday, 5 July 2015 12:04 (eight years ago) link
neither does pitchfork
― j., Sunday, 5 July 2015 14:35 (eight years ago) link
that pitchfork roundtable on rihanna makes me feel really uncomfortable somehow. like it doubles down on the pure celebration of violence and thinks that because of who is doing this that it has some extended political significance. reminds me of the unmitigated celebrations of gangsta rap in the early 90s. as a reaction to the scolds it makes sense, but it feel like it doesn't really think through what's going on. like the politics of endorsing the video seem a lot more shallow and less realized than the video itself.
― got bent (mild cheezed off vibes) (s.clover), Monday, 6 July 2015 01:58 (eight years ago) link
there was also a roundtable for the song itself that had some of the same participants and same overall super positive tone, although there was at least one dissenter:http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/715-bitch-better-have-my-roundtable-rihannas-bbhmm/
― some dude, Monday, 6 July 2015 02:07 (eight years ago) link
oh right. "Newports, not just blunts" -- how could i forget
― got bent (mild cheezed off vibes) (s.clover), Monday, 6 July 2015 02:33 (eight years ago) link
it doesn't think through as much as it could because all of the participants had less than 24 hours to churn their opinions out
― lex pretend, Monday, 6 July 2015 06:20 (eight years ago) link
I was gonna say the elephant in the room was that the roundtables that made it to this thread (they've done others) were the ones that dealt with race, but given that someone's dropped blackface into the discussion I don't think that is really applicable anymore
― for sale: baby shoes, never worn your ass (katherine), Monday, 6 July 2015 11:45 (eight years ago) link
No I'm not having that. It might be about race but it caught my eye because everybody agrees as loudly as possible. Maybe that's the norm for P4k round tables, idk, but if it is then they should rethink the whole format.
― A swarm of antipathy (Re-Make/Re-Model), Monday, 6 July 2015 15:21 (eight years ago) link
Can mods just change the name of this thread to "I@n C0hen is dumb?"
There's more care and nuance put into the drum filtering on "Let It Happen" than most bands manage in an entire career of recording
Right, because you know
Parker is...somehow the best and most underrated rock bassist of the 21st century, and it’s not even close on either front
srsly?
― Wimmels, Monday, 13 July 2015 13:38 (eight years ago) link
I feel like for some people audible bass playing = good bass playing.
― 29 facepalms, Monday, 13 July 2015 13:56 (eight years ago) link
otm
― too young for seapunk (Moodles), Monday, 13 July 2015 13:58 (eight years ago) link
what is "drum filtering"
― Joan Crawford Loves Chachi, Monday, 13 July 2015 14:03 (eight years ago) link
It's when you use the snare strainer to make coffee.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 13 July 2015 14:05 (eight years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/0HZMqzm.gif
― example (crüt), Monday, 13 July 2015 14:05 (eight years ago) link
― 29 facepalms, Monday, July 13, 2015 1:56 PM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
^^^^^
― Wimmels, Monday, 13 July 2015 14:06 (eight years ago) link
crut I lol'd really hard, ty
― Joan Crawford Loves Chachi, Monday, 13 July 2015 14:09 (eight years ago) link
Currents could be called a "transitional album," but what Parker seems to realize is that all albums should be so named, because life is transitional.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 13 July 2015 15:39 (eight years ago) link
jesus christ
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, 13 July 2015 15:47 (eight years ago) link
Noted Marxist-Leninist mouthpiece the FT on implications for the Eurozone: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/e38a452e-26f2-11e5-bd83-71cb60e8f08c.html#axzz3fm5E3Q9P
― Keith Moom (Neil S), Monday, 13 July 2015 15:48 (eight years ago) link
lol rong thread sorry guys
― Keith Moom (Neil S), Monday, 13 July 2015 15:49 (eight years ago) link
not really
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 July 2015 15:50 (eight years ago) link
Forknancial Times
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Monday, 13 July 2015 17:44 (eight years ago) link
he's just talking about the dj-esque part of the single where there's a low pass filter on the drums.
ian cohen also responsible for this infamously terrible review: http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/17136-mumps-etc/
― lil urbane (Jordan), Monday, 13 July 2015 18:03 (eight years ago) link
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― nose, Monday, 13 July 2015 18:09 (eight years ago) link
they're on the festival bill
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 July 2015 18:10 (eight years ago) link
copy and paste the url. ilx doesn't put the final "/" in the link and so it doesn't work
― Rave Van Donk (jim in glasgow), Monday, 13 July 2015 18:11 (eight years ago) link
I don't really care about IC as a writer but he reviews so much nu-emo/pop-punk stuff that is reviving sounds I didn't care much about the first time around that I basically skip anything with his byline.
― Immediate Follower (NA), Monday, 13 July 2015 19:24 (eight years ago) link
It's a huge bummer that he got assigned to review the Tenement album, which didn't really say anything beyond "It's a double-LP; therefore, it's too long." Couldn't they have gotten literally anyone else?
― billstevejim, Monday, 13 July 2015 19:42 (eight years ago) link
oh yeah just like when he reviewed the new mew record and mostly used it as an opportunity to make thousand-year-old prog jokes about rick wakeman's king arthur
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, 13 July 2015 19:52 (eight years ago) link
IC is the most Pitchfork-y of Pitchfork writers though, a true objectivist, will always mention the album's relatability, hook count, and cross-reference with other Pitchfork-approved records positively. Music to him is something to affirm his own privileged position, not to challenge it. As long as he writes there regularly that site will never be a positive force for anything
― got a long list of ilxors (fgti), Monday, 13 July 2015 22:21 (eight years ago) link
Every site needs one of those, like David Fricke at RS. Or Anthony DeCurtis in his heyday.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 July 2015 22:55 (eight years ago) link
i would like to suggest: nah
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, 13 July 2015 23:05 (eight years ago) link
speaking of pitchfork writers, this looks pretty cool:
"Rural Violence", curated by Brandon Stosuy, features the work of the artists Matthew Barney, Cindy Daignault, Lionel Maunz, and Prurient (with John Sharian). It is a meditation on the bucolic as sinister and the quiet violence of the pastoral, along with the various rituals attached to both natural and personal cycles.
"Rural Violence" opens on August 8, 2015, in the Family Chapel of the 150-year old Woodside Church in Troy, NY. Opening is 7pm. Performance is 8pm.
There will be a second movement on September 19, 2015.
― scott seward, Monday, 13 July 2015 23:28 (eight years ago) link
prurient in a church in troy. that's pretty damn poetic.
― scott seward, Monday, 13 July 2015 23:29 (eight years ago) link
http://pitchfork.com/features/staff-lists/9700-the-200-best-songs-of-the-1980s/
TOP 10 SPOILER ALERT:
10. "How Soon Is Now?"9. "The Message"8. "Once in a Lifetime"7. "Love Will Tear Us Apart"6. "Running Up That Hill (A Deal with God)"5. "Fight the Power"4. "Blue Monday"3. "Straight Outta Compton"2. "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin"1. "Purple Rain"
Hardly visionary, but I'm sure there's a lot of cool stuff in the 200-50s
― niels, Monday, 24 August 2015 11:18 (eight years ago) link
here's a spotify playlist with 191 of its songs https://open.spotify.com/user/norwich5/playlist/5rYtPUau6Aewf3UrsM7r66
― maura, Monday, 24 August 2015 14:40 (eight years ago) link
great list!
― welltris (crüt), Monday, 24 August 2015 14:42 (eight years ago) link
nah but
― maura, Monday, 24 August 2015 14:43 (eight years ago) link
(shruggie)
― maura, Monday, 24 August 2015 14:44 (eight years ago) link
not to sound like all the idiot rockist/crypto-racist Slicing Up Eyeballs commenters who are complaining about this list, but no Human League was a lil surprising to me
― welltris (crüt), Monday, 24 August 2015 14:46 (eight years ago) link
a lot of great choices through 200-101 and then it hardens into an established, only lightly distorted version of canon, there are also a lot of inexplicable omissions and some u2 songs
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, 24 August 2015 14:47 (eight years ago) link
...and Hall & Oates.
― The New Gay Sadness (cryptosicko), Monday, 24 August 2015 14:48 (eight years ago) link
...and Michael McDonald.
― The New Gay Sadness (cryptosicko), Monday, 24 August 2015 14:49 (eight years ago) link
no george michael, no 'perfect way,' no pointer sisters, no freestyle (unless you count shannon who to me was always on the cusp), no country, no 'higher love,' totally weak on all the weird left-field pop that bubbled up from secondary and tertiary markets to the charts and made top 40 radio an exciting place
also 'straight outta compton' being picked as the '80s best hip-hop track is just, i mean, what?
― maura, Monday, 24 August 2015 14:49 (eight years ago) link
"Love Will Tear Us Apart" is such a mediocre song
― welltris (crüt), Monday, 24 August 2015 14:49 (eight years ago) link