you mean I have to stop listening to Miguel
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 June 2015 19:13 (eight years ago) link
yes alfred, just for an hour.
― definite parallels between Dany and Rachel Dolezal (slothroprhymes), Monday, 22 June 2015 19:14 (eight years ago) link
wildheart is def also gunning for the #1 spot tbf
― definite parallels between Dany and Rachel Dolezal (slothroprhymes), Monday, 22 June 2015 19:15 (eight years ago) link
it's been an incredible year
― Evan R, Monday, 22 June 2015 19:20 (eight years ago) link
Wow. Miguel and Vince Staples arrive in one day. But yeah, this is great - almost too deep to take in. I like it that he's defined his musical aesthetic so clearly that this isn't a double album grab bag of stuff. It's just one dope track after another where I'm mesmerized by his voice. A little like when I first heard Nas.
― paulhw, Tuesday, 23 June 2015 01:58 (eight years ago) link
so this is a good album
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 June 2015 02:06 (eight years ago) link
"norf norf" is so fucking great
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 June 2015 18:44 (eight years ago) link
i'll have to stop listening to this to hear Miguel, not the other way around #priorities
― alpine static, Tuesday, 23 June 2015 22:55 (eight years ago) link
if this season of true detective was in compton, "dopeman" would be a perfect theme song, so quietly menacing. it's sort of an interstitial more than a full fledged song but I love it
― definite parallels between Dany and Rachel Dolezal (slothroprhymes), Tuesday, 23 June 2015 23:29 (eight years ago) link
this is soooooooooo good
― the late great, Sunday, 28 June 2015 18:40 (eight years ago) link
It is but too long imo
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 28 June 2015 18:46 (eight years ago) link
I haven't even listened to the second disc yet
― the late great, Sunday, 28 June 2015 19:01 (eight years ago) link
This could be forever, babyThis could be forever, babyThis could be forever, babyThis could be forever, maybeDo you like the sunshine, do you like the snow?Do you wanna talk about it, or be alone?I think that you should know that, this could be forever, baby
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 12:48 (eight years ago) link
dragged my sick self out of the house to buy a copy of this & it was sold out, which makes me happy tbh. good for vince.
― slothroprhymes, Tuesday, 30 June 2015 20:44 (eight years ago) link
this album is pretty special huh
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 30 June 2015 21:38 (eight years ago) link
I love it now.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 30 June 2015 21:43 (eight years ago) link
― lex pretend, Tuesday, June 30, 2015 9:38 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yep
also really amazing sounding - the enormous bass!
― Tim F, Tuesday, 30 June 2015 23:04 (eight years ago) link
was just gonna talk about the bass. I think this album was made just strictly for my taste
― Spottie, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 06:25 (eight years ago) link
the "birds & bees" beat sounds like mezzanine-era massive attack
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 08:14 (eight years ago) link
Woah that is spot on
― Tim F, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 08:51 (eight years ago) link
that and all the featuring birds being of the topley variety
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 09:10 (eight years ago) link
ha -- I was going to say Angels with Dirty Faces
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 1 July 2015 11:04 (eight years ago) link
i felt like there was a lot of tricky about vince himself, haven't worked out whether it was just the above sonic associations making me think so
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 1 July 2015 11:15 (eight years ago) link
too early in the romance to say but this probably an AOTY contender for me.
― Tim F, Thursday, 2 July 2015 00:53 (eight years ago) link
Tim!
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 July 2015 00:54 (eight years ago) link
Alfred?
― Tim F, Thursday, 2 July 2015 02:12 (eight years ago) link
performing on Jimmy Kimmel tonight
― some dude, Thursday, 2 July 2015 03:07 (eight years ago) link
ha -- no, just surprised.
xpost
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 July 2015 11:13 (eight years ago) link
idk I have pretty corny taste in rap and if you plotted a through line of my favourite rap albums of the last ten years or so it would lead straight to this.
― Tim F, Thursday, 2 July 2015 13:07 (eight years ago) link
really loving this, love all the call and response female vox in this
also FUCK YOU VINCE for this little deep thought in "Surf"
More black kids killed from a pill than the FEDs in the projectsIn the planned parenthood playin' God with ya mom's check, you ain't even been to prom yetSixteen, heard you wanna be a star girlWhat he charge for the dream that you bought girl
http://farm1.staticflickr.com/201/480130703_be1d567d73.jpg
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 2 July 2015 14:04 (eight years ago) link
The angle of "Can you believe this 22-year-old doesn't know about NWA or Public Enemy!?!?" in this article was pretty annoying:http://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/stapless-center-getting-to-the-heart-of-things-with-the-summertime-06-rapper/
― Immediate Follower (NA), Thursday, 2 July 2015 14:48 (eight years ago) link
the 50 Cent was third grade thing was more o_O the terror of time & all its sickening crime for me, yikes
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 2 July 2015 15:01 (eight years ago) link
i want to believe that vince is more talking about the literal fact that underage pregnancies happen rather than passing judgment on how they're dealt with but at the same time the heavy christian influence among a lot of rappers does lead to some version of prolife opinions in several instances (theres an infamous ghostface lyric to this effect on pretty toney, iirc, for example)
(xxpost)
― slothroprhymes, Thursday, 2 July 2015 15:13 (eight years ago) link
damn this is kind of astonishing on contact
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 2 July 2015 16:28 (eight years ago) link
idk, kinda finding the whole mise en scene a bit prissy and ultimately detrimental for a rap alb tbh (tim trying to head this off at the pass i assume)
i mean if it was like john talabot ft fka twigs & yelawolf i'd probably bust two gunshots but
― r|t|c, Thursday, 2 July 2015 17:14 (eight years ago) link
not remotely in the mood for this atmos right now in fairness tho, maybe when my heart is full of murder like idk ilx eoy time it'll click a treat
― r|t|c, Thursday, 2 July 2015 17:17 (eight years ago) link
idk i've found myself steadily entranced by this record, always starting it like "i mean this is good but idk if i'm into this into this" and by the halfway point i'm like "oh hell yeah"
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 July 2015 17:31 (eight years ago) link
1-2 of "jump off the roof" and "señorita" helps
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 July 2015 17:32 (eight years ago) link
"Senorita" is like the worst song on the album imo, the random 2 Future bars looped as a hook sound awkward as hell
― some dude, Thursday, 2 July 2015 17:36 (eight years ago) link
is this coming out on vinyl or am i gonnna have to find a Best Buy and buy the CD
― alpine static, Thursday, 2 July 2015 17:38 (eight years ago) link
yeah "Senorita" is my least favorite thing.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 2 July 2015 17:53 (eight years ago) link
idk it's fun y'all
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Thursday, 2 July 2015 18:36 (eight years ago) link
― r|t|c, Thursday, July 2, 2015 1:14 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
hahaha
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 2 July 2015 18:47 (eight years ago) link
― slothroprhymes, Thursday, July 2, 2015 10:13 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah that pro-life stance isn't uncommon in hip hop but it bothers the shit out of me
i think your interpretation is um...well let me just caution don't throw your back out doing those gymnastics
overall though this album is great! there's probably at least 1 completely deplorable line on every rap album i've ever loved, or a lot more, i don't mean to characterize vince as particularly bad, i dig his general vibe
that said I'm not sure if I like it more than Warm Brew & I would encourage anyone outside the goon thread to bump that album at least once
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 2 July 2015 18:52 (eight years ago) link
Vince is a pissy guy who says incendiary things, so that makes his pro-life lines a little easier to reconcile, since they fit his M.O. of lashing out at everybody. Not excusing them, of course, but it's less jarring to me than when somebody like Common drops judgey lines like that into their songs as if they're intended as gospel
― Evan R, Thursday, 2 July 2015 19:41 (eight years ago) link
i mean i dunno that's basically just deciding a reason to give him a pass and not commmon
but wrt to common it's not necessarily jarring to me or unexpected because i feel like anti-feminism and pro-life stuff has always been a part of conscious rap because of 5 percenter stuff which is one of the cores of conscious rap wrt like Lord "trill o'reilly" Jamar
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 2 July 2015 22:00 (eight years ago) link
Haven't heard this yet, so no judgement (and never expect worthwhile social commentary from anybody in any medium, the more pleasantly to be surprised), but not into anti-contraception as "pro-life," nor "conscious" incl. anti-feminism, tho as former music retailer know how bullshit most tags are as anything more than convenience.
― dow, Thursday, 2 July 2015 22:31 (eight years ago) link
― Evan R, Thursday, July 2, 2015 3:41 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah god forbid a substantial, provocative and wide ranging album contain a line or two that doesn't perfectly align with our worldviews, let's definitely lose our shit about it
― some dude, Thursday, 2 July 2015 23:01 (eight years ago) link
I said I like the album, it's a great album how is that losing my shit
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 2 July 2015 23:51 (eight years ago) link
Unless that was meant as a board description
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 2 July 2015 23:52 (eight years ago) link
Looking forward to getting into this. The producers didn't ring a bell, anyone familiar?
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Monday, 27 May 2024 20:06 (one week ago) link
Some of his best beats in ages ("Étouffée"0.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 15:46 (one week ago) link
I feel like a lot of elements have to be just right for a Staples release to work - he’s got to be in the right zone of writing and spitting, the production has to be on point, etc. A lot of stuff he’s done over the past 11 years has an element or two wrong and it just wrecks the whole thing for me
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 16:38 (one week ago) link
His flow on “Justin” gives me major A Tribe Called Quest feels
― Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 16:42 (one week ago) link
Never knew I needed a NOLA bounce homage from Vince Staples. This is sounding great so far.
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 18:14 (one week ago) link
re: producers, etouffee is mike hector, who produced god for kendrick, among others, and jay versace, the former internet comedian turned producer who did “smoking on my ex pack” for sza, and whosantoine, who i haven’t heard of but i am sure is great
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 18:21 (one week ago) link
looking at the rest of the credits, the only other producers i know are the great cardo (got wings), who is behind “radio” (one of my highlights), and michael uzowuru, who has worked with sza and frank ocean, and has several credits on here
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 18:24 (one week ago) link
Thanks!
― Jordan s/t (Jordan), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 18:25 (one week ago) link
cardo's mixtapes with payroll giovanni are so good
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 28 May 2024 18:39 (one week ago) link