Why do white people criticize one another for being white?

I've never really felt any need to use the "word" white as a qualifier for music, because for me the word "unfunky" has pretty much the same meaning, without getting into dodgy racial essentialism. It's much easier to say "white musicians can be funky" or "black musicians can be unfunky" than "white musicians can be black" or "black musicians can be white". Of course, if you're talking about the demographics of particular music subculture rather than the content of the music, then it makes more sense to use words like "black" or "white".

The bigger truth bomb though, sarahel: upwardly mobile 20-/30-something liberal, college-educated, self-aware whites who listen to indie rock and have "opinions" on shit like Stuff White People Like Dot Com and Vampire Weekend are more likely to post snarky bullshit on message boards that you and me and u_s steel read.

what's a soundtrack for a post racial world?
i'm thinking doobie bros.

elephant orchestras

racist!

I heard a Vampire Weekend song once. It was nice, not my thing. I think my 24 year old cousin might like them.

wait guys i thought MIA was the soundtrack for a post racial world did i miss something

a post post post

I mean, I think pretty much any metal outside of (ironically enough) black metal is more racially diverse than indie rock. But we're splitting hairs here.

I was about to make a joke about DNA-ancestry tests on every scene: what if the Latino part of the metal fanbase is largely Iberian? Then all your 100% South- or East-Asian indie rockers may sweep up to win the Nobel Prize for Music Not Being "White."

wait guys i thought MIA was the soundtrack for a post racial world did i miss something

you let her brown skin fool you ;_;

^^ that is a pointless joke, BTW -- I think I admitted years ago that I am mostly (and hopefully non-dickishly) just amused by this whole realm of conversation, hence starting the thread

lol, xpost?

haha yes, obv

one thing that i always found "funny" was moving between ILM-world and college-world and seeing the different meanings white gets inflected with--"unfunky/safe" vs. "arrogant/oblivious"

still don't hear "dave eggers is too white for me" there's still a backlash against trendiness but white guilt never gets much play outside of music.

^^ white guilt gets a lot of play on college campuses.

Your life is white
And I dont think I like
You hanging around

white guilt vs. gay dad

dad guilt

it's almost like people feel guilty...guilty of being white

one thing that i always found "funny" was moving between ILM-world and college-world and seeing the different meanings white gets inflected with--"unfunky/safe" vs. "arrogant/oblivious"

Is that still going on? Given how much college costs these days, perhaps so.

(I'm old, I have no idea...)

There is no such thing as White Music. Or, that is, there wouldn't have been had it not been for this album:
http://g-images.amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/dc/fc/2b94124128a073a0d6a56010.L.jpg

Geir, you're so white

you probably think this thread is about you

*high five*

I like to think that the character of "gangsta andy partridge" was an in-depth satire on the subject of race relations in musical experiences and knowledge.

But seriously, "nigga i pop a cap in yo fat finnish azz".

You do it all the time, and I post this to ILM and not ILE because it usually comes rolling out with regard to music: around here "white-boy _____" gets used to write off as much music as any other pejorative.

who was intended by 'you' above? I've never done it. some tossers might do it. I wouldn't write to black people 'you do xyz all the time'.

Isn't that you fetishize suffering as the true source of deep feeling, and consequently fetishize the self-expression of people who are expected to have suffered -- namely, black people and the working class?
― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 28 March 2003

lots of people suffer, in lots of ways, alas. personally I don't fetishize those particular sufferings at all, no. do you?

EVERYBODY MUST PAY.

white music? synesthesia alert!

personally I don't fetishize those particular sufferings at all, no. do you?

Guy I know was criticizing Rachel Getting Married recently on the basis that their house is too awesome for their problems to be worth caring about.

http://maxgif.com/152

lol

A+ thread revive singlehandedly turned my shitty day around. Your bouquet of roses is in the mail

(the gif did, I mean. Fuck whatever people were saying in this thread, probably)

(the gif did, I mean. Fuck whatever people were saying in this thread, probably)

lol yeah the white guy who started this thread, what was he thinking

I've not read anyone describe anything as "white boy" music in many years. Probably as I stopped going on NOTBBC as it was fucking terrible

you haven't read ilx in years i assume too?

"the white guy who started this thread" ugh what a strawman (xpost to aero)

"self-aware whites who listen to indie rock and have "opinions" on shit like Stuff White..."

Self-regarding is a better description for this than self-aware. Its a backhanded compliment to say that white people are always in on the joke when they're being satirized. Apparently nothing gets past self aware white people with their irony and sense of the ridic.

ilx: i've never seen such indignant white people in all my life.

whites are a beastly race

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please tell me she's not dancing to "pony"

whites are a beastly race

― the late great, Tuesday, June 12, 2012 12:49 AM (11 hours ago)

the most inept flayers of beasts and scorchers of grass

O weird. when I followed that first link to the bristol gif earlier, my phone didn't display the flashing "WHITE PPL" text, I swear! I was just laffing at her face

(... and at the idea that someone would see a bristol palin animated gif and immediately think of this thread)

All you middle-class white assholes always pull this shit. (I'm a working-class white asshole, so it's okay for me to say this)

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Friday, March 28, 2003 12:39 PM (9 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Kinda wonder whether Y. would still describe himself that way.

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/04vogFRgWNeUw/576x.jpg

uh, holy shit. how did i not know that one of our own cofounded kickstarter?