that video makes me want a boiled egg
― cerealbar, Monday, 13 April 2015 15:56 (nine years ago) link
album version is too long though (maybe)
― cerealbar, Monday, 13 April 2015 15:58 (nine years ago) link
this bangs and is weird
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, 13 April 2015 21:25 (nine years ago) link
i.e. in character
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 April 2015 23:52 (nine years ago) link
I can't unsee Dolores O'Riordan.
― StanM, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 01:52 (nine years ago) link
i really don't know what i think of the album yet but it feels like she's tiptoeing around the concept somewhat. which she should, to be fair, because it's a minefield, but it ends up so careful. some very impressive moments w/r/t structure, arrangements etc but she never goes for it at any point? when "jealousy" comes on afterwards it feels a billion times more alive.
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 07:57 (nine years ago) link
think the restraint contributes to the anxiety and tension kinda running unbrokenly through the whole record
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 13:30 (nine years ago) link
"jealousy" is great obv but a different thing
re: the video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLoyu9PcmBc
― bae sremmurd (monotony), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 13:32 (nine years ago) link
i think it comes at the expense of any real emotional pull tbh. it's a very tasteful and accomplished concept album but it feels like RM knew that the entire thing had to be handled with care - straight white woman makes album explicitly and entirely about gay black men's experiences, how could it possibly go wrong - and it ended up a touch too sensitive, maybe. idk, i'm still getting to grips with it but i'm not exactly drawn to put it on much, and when i do i find myself appreciating it on a head level way more than on a heart level.
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 17:10 (nine years ago) link
haven't yet seen an interview with her, would have pitched but it's not as if i know a huge amount about the paris is burning era either, lol
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 17:11 (nine years ago) link
I was about to ask: where are you getting the info about the album? I'd love to read it.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 17:20 (nine years ago) link
the initial press bumpf i presume, not any in-depth feature
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 17:23 (nine years ago) link
yeah the press release she wrote:
This song was written after I watched the documentary film Paris Is Burning, having read an article which referenced it in a discussion about House music's origins in black, gay culture. I was deeply moved by this film. 'I had to run this far from home' - it's about the outcasts who could never fit into mainstream society and how they created a safe place in the drag 'Ball' scene of New York in the ‘80s. 'Will we live on? The children of La Beija' refers to the 'house' of Pepper La Beija, who was one of the most notable figures on the scene, Pepper is also quoted in Malcolm McLaren's song on the same subject 'Deep In Vogue'. The culture was a flamboyant reaction to persecution and disillusionment, the imagination and bravery of these kids is simply awe-inspiring. I envisioned 'Gone Fishing' almost as a song from a Broadway musical version of this story. The making of one's own world, a safer world and the creation of a new, better family in music or youth culture is a theme I touch upon elsewhere on my album Hairless Toys.
straight white woman makes album explicitly and entirely about gay black men's experiences
afaict this only applies to "gone fishing"
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 17:26 (nine years ago) link
i haven't studied the lyrics or anything but she seems to return to those themes pretty consistently throughout
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 17:31 (nine years ago) link
hm well neither have i tbh
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 17:36 (nine years ago) link
also it feels very weird at a time when the ballroom scene seems so healthy for RM to reference it so explicitly as an influence but not go anywhere near it sonically
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 17:39 (nine years ago) link
Murphy's seems to have been adopted by the transgenderqueer (etc., I don't keep up) community for a while.
― Dreyfuss levels of hopeless romantic (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 18:56 (nine years ago) link
's (Video is one of several unofficial fan videos for "Simulation" featuring trangender peeps - parts might be unsafe for some workplaces)
― Dreyfuss levels of hopeless romantic (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 18:59 (nine years ago) link
i feel like the new record is kind of a sister (or cousin) to last year's mr twin sister album
― j. winters (josh), Sunday, 19 April 2015 19:04 (nine years ago) link
Hmm, hadn't thought about that, but makes sense on the surface.
I'm definitely a fan of the straightforwardness of Overpowered. This one takes more dedication to love, like Ruby Blue did imo.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 20 April 2015 04:05 (nine years ago) link
been listening to this a lot lately and came across a track-by-track where she basically confirms that only "gone fishing" is about balling, the rest is about her strange interior life. was surprised to find out "exploitation" is literally about sex but in retrospect it's obvious
anyway this is still one of my favorite records of the year, though it makes more sense as a follow up to ruby blue than overpowered. "unputdownable" prob one of my favorite love songs of all time at this point
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 14:29 (eight years ago) link
i waited so long for a new RM album but now there is one i couldn't care less, it's weird.
― Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 14:41 (eight years ago) link
I played it a lot in late May but haven't returned to it. Too quiet and the melodies are skimpy.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 14:43 (eight years ago) link
gonna give it my first shot in weeks b/c Brad.
yeah really liking unputdownable, thanks Brad. I think i was put off by the single with the queazy speeding-slowing thing going on. hated that.
― Acting Crazy (Instrumental) (jed_), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 14:46 (eight years ago) link
Too quiet and the melodies are skimpy.
sympathetic to this but i think i like it bc of how pared down and nervously quiet it is
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 15:31 (eight years ago) link
also i'm a real sucker for the jazzy guitar runs in "exploitation" and "house of glass"
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Wednesday, 29 July 2015 15:32 (eight years ago) link
I think i was put off by the single with the queazy speeding-slowing thing going on. hated that.
If you mean Exploitation, that's one of the things I like about that track (my favorite from the album, in either the single version or album version).
― _Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 29 July 2015 15:59 (eight years ago) link
ah so there IS a thread. doesn't come up in the search for Roisin. first track is amazing. good to see it got a Mercury nod. this is her best stuff IMO.
― piscesx, Monday, 19 October 2015 15:28 (eight years ago) link
the lack of love would be more baffling if this weren't a very quiet and elusive record
― insufficiently familiar with xgau's work to comment intelligently (BradNelson), Monday, 19 October 2015 16:41 (eight years ago) link
omg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic9f7XRRhx0
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Monday, 7 December 2015 05:16 (eight years ago) link
INDEED
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 7 December 2015 05:26 (eight years ago) link
The full version looks like it's getting released on Friday (digital/12") and is 7+ minutes. WANT
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 7 December 2015 05:27 (eight years ago) link
He should do a full remix album. The video is so good too.
― ewar woowar (or something), Monday, 7 December 2015 08:36 (eight years ago) link
Another remix
https://soundcloud.com/miss-roisin-murphy/unputdownable-prosumer-remix/s-9xUmr
― groovypanda, Monday, 7 December 2015 12:29 (eight years ago) link
so, uh, i guess there might be a new album this year?https://twitter.com/roisinmurphy/status/702787290171629568
― circles, Saturday, 27 February 2016 18:43 (eight years ago) link
Wow
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Saturday, 27 February 2016 19:09 (eight years ago) link
hell yeah. hairless toys didn't hit me at first but now i think it's amazing... i listened again keeping a couple comments in mind i'd read on the EOY 2015 thread, something about how 'evil eyes' switches gears into a boogie song four mins in. her previous album, which i love, even sounded a bit drab afterward in comparison.
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Saturday, 27 February 2016 20:21 (eight years ago) link
https://soundcloud.com/miss-roisin-murphy/mastermind
new track is nice, hadn't seen the tweets so I wasn't expecting something new already.
― ufo, Tuesday, 19 April 2016 13:42 (eight years ago) link
This song is like a series of forks in the road, and she took the right one every time.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 19 April 2016 13:46 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, this is great! Even though it's the sort of thing my pop-structured mind tends to find unpleasant, it works when Róisín does it.
― daavid, Tuesday, 19 April 2016 14:20 (eight years ago) link
just came here to post about the new album. nothing for 8 years then 2 albums inside 1 year. weird huh? last album is amazing, easily her best IMO.
by the way this thread is impossible to find.
― piscesx, Tuesday, 19 April 2016 20:37 (eight years ago) link
Hairless Toys was impressive but I still love Overpowered more than anything she's done, though.
― daavid, Tuesday, 19 April 2016 21:16 (eight years ago) link
album title is intriguing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-BQXz1Nk7k
― Number None, Sunday, 24 April 2016 20:10 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4xe-qiKE00#t=210
― daavid, Monday, 16 May 2016 14:55 (eight years ago) link
oh boy
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Monday, 16 May 2016 15:13 (eight years ago) link
that song "Mastermind" is a jacuzzi.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 May 2016 15:26 (eight years ago) link
'ten miles high' on repeat
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 19 May 2016 17:22 (eight years ago) link
I said 'fair enough'! it isn't for me to contradict your lived experience, and the ongoing foregrounding of a transphobic discourse is a major reason for the emboldened violence
― imago, Friday, 15 September 2023 11:30 (eight months ago) link
anyway she's now posting on her Instagram (which I have yet to click unfollow on, more fool me) "Hit Parade is a critical success because it's brilliant" which if ever there was a sign someone needs an intervention
― boxedjoy, Friday, 15 September 2023 12:09 (eight months ago) link
I have to hear
Learning this is not true is one of the great experiences of getting older.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 15 September 2023 12:56 (eight months ago) link
how nice for you
― your original display name is still visible (Left), Friday, 15 September 2023 12:58 (eight months ago) link
idk, maybe it would help to make your very valid point land a little better if every response wasn't a "fuck you" or snide sarcasm
(i know, i know.. fuck me too, i'll save you some typing on my way out of this thread)
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 15 September 2023 14:45 (eight months ago) link
if this is just going to be a tabloid gawk fest repeating hate speech, I totally see left’s point. “If that person's movements have effects I need to protect myself from then it is in my interest to click even when I don't want to and you overestimate the extent of free will in this world”^^^^^^^
― brimstead, Friday, 15 September 2023 15:27 (eight months ago) link
I'm really at a loss here. Articles like the Torgraph one posted DO have effects, they contribute to the climate of hatred and violence just as Left themselves said here. But if that's not what's meant by effects that trans people need to protect themselves from, what is, within the context of a thread about a musician?
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 15 September 2023 15:57 (eight months ago) link
idk I'm not sure who's helped by hearing brendan o'neill say exactly what you expect him to say it's not even really about her is it it's like plug in the name here
post whatever you want though and if it upsets me I'll ignore it or take issue with it depending on my mood / your luck
― die cis scum (Left), Friday, 15 September 2023 16:08 (eight months ago) link
there is a significant portion of the internet devoted to "look at this bigot being a bigot," it's one of the reasons i left twitter
― ivy., Friday, 15 September 2023 16:21 (eight months ago) link
even if it's in the spirit of ridicule, i was better off not knowing about it
I don't think anyone's helped by that either, aside perhaps from the positive feedback loop of telling each other that yes these people are scum and there's others who feel the same way about that. But as said before I am very sympathetic to not wanting to have to hear about that shit, and regularly avoid various threads about bigots for that reason.
I also take your point that you might need to hear about these people for reasons of personal safety, but if the Torygraph piece doesn't qualify as something that you need to know about by that rationale...I just don't know what Roisin Murphy-related activity would be. But whatever, not my place to do a taxonomy of that.
xposts
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 15 September 2023 16:23 (eight months ago) link
What a cast iron wanker
https://x.com/petepaphides/status/1702746847645680127?s=46&t=bJOqpCuQneT7ju08y55VSA
― piscesx, Friday, 15 September 2023 19:51 (eight months ago) link
Can BBC Verify or the @bbcpress verify or deny that singer Roisin Murphy has been cancelled by the BBC after criticising puberty blockers?Five hours of Ms Murphy's songs, interviews and highlights of her concerts were put together for a programme called the 6 Music Artist…— Andrew Neil (@afneil) September 13, 2023
― Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Thursday, 21 September 2023 12:18 (eight months ago) link
https://i.ibb.co/ZGmSCQp/IMG-3815.jpg
― come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 21 September 2023 12:39 (eight months ago) link
Thought he'd be too busy defending Brand for this
― nashwan, Thursday, 21 September 2023 12:48 (eight months ago) link
That was from last week, so it was a day or two before the Brand story took off iirc
― NickB, Thursday, 21 September 2023 13:03 (eight months ago) link
Long time fan of Roisin Murphy, of course.....
― I Left My Harp In Sam Frank's Disco (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 September 2023 13:14 (eight months ago) link
cool to see the guy who steered a national newspaper into printing a series of stories about how hiv didn't cause aids has learned absolutely fucking nothing about shutting up on matters best left to medical professionals
― come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 21 September 2023 13:17 (eight months ago) link
Equally cool to see the guy who paid a Holocaust denier six figures to translate Goebbels’ diaries weighing in, the schmuck.
― steely flan (suzy), Thursday, 21 September 2023 21:12 (eight months ago) link
https://i.ibb.co/hHmDXtN/Screenshot-2023-09-23-071625.png
probably not unusual for niche artists but the album debuted last week at #5 in the uk charts, this week it's dropped to #73
― NickB, Saturday, 23 September 2023 06:24 (eight months ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/rsp1gmt.jpg
― PaulTMA, Saturday, 23 September 2023 11:43 (eight months ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/rsp1gmt.jpg ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
― PaulTMA, Saturday, 23 September 2023 11:44 (eight months ago) link
Case closed.
― I Left My Harp In Sam Frank's Disco (Tom D.), Saturday, 23 September 2023 11:46 (eight months ago) link