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I need to check out the other Soft Machine stuff. I've got Third and I was a bit mixed on it. I really liked parts of it though.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 5 February 2015 03:07 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Track I like best on Present From Nancy is "Mexico", really great.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 00:04 (nine years ago) link

Weird: even before their first releases they owned a club that they played at every Sunday night. It was used for music, poetry, dancing, theatre and film screenings.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 15:51 (nine years ago) link

This new Beardfish record has some great moments... and some wtf moments. Anxious to dig into the new Steven Wilson.

ƋППṍӮɨ∏ğڵșěᶉᶇдM℮ (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 20:41 (nine years ago) link

Another Glass Hammer on the horizon, and shocker, it's supposedly their best one yet

Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Wednesday, 25 February 2015 20:56 (nine years ago) link

is jon davison involved?

new steven wilson rules, though way less crimsonisms than that the last one

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 27 February 2015 02:24 (nine years ago) link

Been listening to Carol Of Harvest. Quite disappointing overall. "Try A Little Bit" is really drawn out with some rote singing and most of the 8 tracks aren't that memorable (the last 3 are bonus live tracks that have no studio versions).
What saves it are "Somewhere At The End Of The Rainbow" (nothing to do with the Wizard Of Oz version), a really beautiful song with a warmth and power unlike anything else on the album. Live bonus track "Sweet Heron" is pretty dynamic, with interesting effects.
The former track is really worth hearing.

Seems they have a reunion album from 2009 but it might be a different band.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 2 March 2015 22:47 (nine years ago) link

"Another Glass Hammer on the horizon, and shocker, it's supposedly their best one yet"

they're still happening, even with Davidson in Yes?

akm, Tuesday, 3 March 2015 00:30 (nine years ago) link

GH have gone through a ton of vocalists through the years so I think they'll survive - Davison is only on three of the band's 15 (?) albums.

Abstinence Hawk (frogbs), Tuesday, 3 March 2015 02:35 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Schooling myself now on Anthony Pirog and Joel Harrison who are into prog, jazz, and old DC roadhouse & more guitarists Danny Gatton and Roy Buchanan

curmudgeon, Saturday, 21 March 2015 21:03 (nine years ago) link

i have bought a lot of ELP remasters recently.
still not sure if i like them.
its a lot more sonically raw than i expected.
how on earth did they become so massive !!?

mark e, Saturday, 21 March 2015 22:12 (nine years ago) link

It is weird that they were so big, apparently they got a lot of people into classical music. I've got the debut, Tarkus and Brain Salad Surgery so far; in general I don't like the albums much but I'd still say I'm kind of an ELP fan on the strength of four or five really great tracks.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 21 March 2015 22:23 (nine years ago) link

The Barbarian came up on shuffle and aside from the detour into Charlie Brown Christmas territory it's heavy has hell.

totally unachievable goals and no incentive to compromise (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 21 March 2015 23:11 (nine years ago) link

three months pass...

Listening to the second Supersister album. Very good.
Just as there was a Byrds quote on the previous album, the bonus track on this called "The Groupies Of The Band" has a part of Beach Boys "In My Room" in it.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 9 July 2015 21:58 (nine years ago) link

Really been loving Mahavishnu Orchestra too. Re: the discussion above, I think they should be an essential for prog fans, they do all the right things. I think they were a big influence on Yes and some of the members ended up doing appearances in prog bands and "Hope" sounds so much like King Crimson.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 9 July 2015 22:06 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, they're more rocky and tricky than most prog. Heavy as early Crim.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 9 July 2015 22:20 (nine years ago) link

I think the Supersisters were 2fered on cd at one point. Not sure if that's still the extant ones.
There's some great stuff from Italy and Spain too. Il Baletto di Bronze's Ys is classic and Fusioon are interesting to name just 2.

Stevolende, Friday, 10 July 2015 09:35 (nine years ago) link

Yeah all the albums were in double packs but the latest ones are single albums remastered+expanded. I don't know why but the newest version of Spiral Staircase is very scarce but you can still get the double pack version easily.
Some of the double packs may be the remastered+expanded ones but I doubt it. The double packs have weirdly different pairings for the Polydor and Universal versions.

Il Baletto di Bronze - Ys is one of the glaring absences in my prog collection. Don't know much about Fusioon.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 10 July 2015 13:30 (nine years ago) link

Just put Il Baletto di Bronze - Ys on my Amazon wishlist then Le Orme, PFM - Per Un Amico (I have their second album) and Banco's Darwin.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 10 July 2015 15:39 (nine years ago) link

have fun! each of those is fantastically rococo. this is one of my favorite baroque 'rock progessivo italiano' albums

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKlt-zvJLzU

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 10 July 2015 15:50 (nine years ago) link

I think I would have bought this stuff faster if the names were easier to remember. I think the full extent of what I've got is a bunch of Goblin (a few), Libra (one), Jacula/Antonius Rex (all but one), Devil Doll (all), Semiramis (one/all) and Premiata Forneria Marconi (one).

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 10 July 2015 17:36 (nine years ago) link

Haven't bought from here in a number of years but when i did it was pretty good and had nice p+p rates
http://www.btf.it/

Stevolende, Friday, 10 July 2015 18:21 (nine years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Supersister's "A Girl Named You" is so good, love this part, it's so pretty..

You know your name and i know mine
You play your games and i play mine
Knowing everybody likes it
But not like we do
And we do
When we do

I know your name and you know mine
I play your games and you'll play mine
Knowing everybody likes you
But not like I you
And I do
And I do

You know my name and i know yours
You play my games and i play yours, of course
But if everybody cancels the things that we own
We're alone
We're alone

Think these are slightly wrong though. I'm sure he says "but not like I do" instead of "But not like I you".

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 3 August 2015 22:46 (nine years ago) link

Thought there'd be a new Frost album by now but it's coming out next year.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 5 August 2015 00:09 (nine years ago) link

old to semi-old celebrities you would travel back in time to have lots of sex with.

My pictures of Supersister

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 9 August 2015 20:31 (nine years ago) link

that is not a thread I would expect to be linked here

frogbs, Monday, 10 August 2015 02:42 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

Any consensus on the best Premiata Forneria Marconi album? I've only got Storia Di Un Minuto and I like it a lot.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 26 September 2015 18:38 (nine years ago) link

It's not often I feel an album needs it but I think that album could have benefitted from a remaster.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 26 September 2015 18:40 (nine years ago) link

This album is actually way better than I remembered. I was mostly into it for the first two tracks but there's so much good stuff in there.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 26 September 2015 18:49 (nine years ago) link

per un amico is the consensus fave. songwriting is all over the place but some super great melodies. after per un amico they changed their bass player- some people like their third italian album just as much, but it's a little too fusion-y for my tastes.

rushomancy, Saturday, 26 September 2015 19:22 (nine years ago) link

It seems there are only English lyric versions of Per Un Amico (Photos Of Ghosts) and L'Isola Di Niente (The World Became The World)?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 26 September 2015 19:35 (nine years ago) link

To clarify to anyone who doesn't know, they recorded English language versions of these albums after the original Italian versions.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 26 September 2015 19:37 (nine years ago) link

I thought the gold versions of the first 2 PFM lps that I bought from BTF 12 years ago were remasters. May have been limited editions too though.

Stevolende, Saturday, 26 September 2015 19:52 (nine years ago) link

robert: yes, but "photos of ghosts" has an english version of "e'festa" and "the world became the world" has an english version of "impressioni di settembre". also, "photos of ghosts" has an otherwise unreleased instrumental called "old rain".

rushomancy, Saturday, 26 September 2015 19:57 (nine years ago) link

here's a classic '72 pfm performance from italian tv:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbmEHrKK41I

rushomancy, Saturday, 26 September 2015 19:59 (nine years ago) link

yes, but "photos of ghosts" has an english version of "e'festa" and "the world became the world" has an english version of "impressioni di settembre". also, "photos of ghosts" has an otherwise unreleased instrumental called "old rain".

Thanks.
I've heard that Photos Of Ghosts is not very good but The World Became The World is as good as the Italian version.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 26 September 2015 20:16 (nine years ago) link

Is Ars Nova the only all female prog band? I don't know if Feminist Improvising Group count as rock. But Ars Nova often does have male members but if I remember correctly they attempt to be all female when they can to complete the goddess theme.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 26 September 2015 20:26 (nine years ago) link

Ex-Girl?

めんどくさかった (Matt #2), Saturday, 26 September 2015 20:58 (nine years ago) link

Listened to a few tracks, quite good.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 26 September 2015 21:21 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

Listening to the UK debut. Didn't realise this was the result of an attempted King Crimson reunion. Doesn't seem that special as some fans say but I love the opening suite, awesome chorus "Iiiiiin the dead of night, in the dead of niiiiiiiight!" then the payoff of "byyyyyyy the light of daaaayy, in the dead of niiiiiiiight!"

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 22:24 (eight years ago) link

Jobson really shows his Zappa background in places.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 22:27 (eight years ago) link

i really don't like holdsworth's guitar tone. myself i have a greater love for their follow-up, where they pull out some serious soft rock moves, which, of course, makes the True Progheads hate the record, but for god's sake Wetton was born to be a lounge lizard!

rushomancy, Wednesday, 2 December 2015 23:20 (eight years ago) link

There's a lot of live albums.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 3 December 2015 00:29 (eight years ago) link

Iiiiiiiiin the dead of niiiight! Iiiiiin the dead of niiiiiiiiiight!

The whole album is growing on me too.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 23:24 (eight years ago) link

was it an attempted crimson reunion? I hadn't heard that. anyway first UK album is good. second one is ok too.

akm, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 23:25 (eight years ago) link

kind of bummed I missed the bozzio lineup on tour a few years back

akm, Tuesday, 8 December 2015 23:35 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

Supersister's "Wow" doesn't seem to have a studio version. It's pretty funny, maybe they changed it all the time?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 1 March 2016 21:16 (eight years ago) link

Again about UK's "In The Dead Of Night", the keyboard solo near the end is amazing. The album grew on me a bit. Really not what I was expecting. It's pretty gloomy.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 1 March 2016 21:24 (eight years ago) link

i think there was a 7" studio version of "wow" in '73... after they released a live version on 1972's "Superstarshine Vol. 3".

diana krallice (rushomancy), Tuesday, 1 March 2016 22:28 (eight years ago) link

I guess it's on my Iskander as a bonus track.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 1 March 2016 22:53 (eight years ago) link


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