the world is a vampire
― It's strange to me too. But we're talking about praxis, man. (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 30 January 2015 22:22 (nine years ago) link
so...there's that
spazz's post maybe had some mixed metaphors but I think you can get from the whole post that it is not pretensious in spazz's opinion
― It's strange to me too. But we're talking about praxis, man. (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 30 January 2015 22:24 (nine years ago) link
who gives a shit, it's pretentious
― da croupier, Friday, 30 January 2015 22:28 (nine years ago) link
it's pretentious to give a shit?
― It's strange to me too. But we're talking about praxis, man. (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 30 January 2015 22:30 (nine years ago) link
it's ostentatious and affected, doing it "for the kids" does NOT make it less pretentious
― da croupier, Friday, 30 January 2015 22:31 (nine years ago) link
if anything claiming your over-the-top display of feeling came from a sense of obligation to others only makes it more so
― da croupier, Friday, 30 January 2015 22:32 (nine years ago) link
ftr I was just deliberately misreading your post for jokes there. I do think that album is pretentious.
― It's strange to me too. But we're talking about praxis, man. (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 30 January 2015 22:33 (nine years ago) link
xposting D'Arcy didn't go insane, she was on drugs, and regardless, that was eons ago and he has gone through how many lineups since then, even if you don't include Zwan? Dunno, but enough to propose sole constant Corgan is the problem.
And lol that anything Corgan has done has been anything less than pretentious.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 31 January 2015 00:10 (nine years ago) link
constantly demanding that everything you do be taken seriously/treated as important is kinda textbook pretentious, no?
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 31 January 2015 00:12 (nine years ago) link
or does he differentiate between the real, the pure, the heart music and eh this is just some stuff he did for a goof
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 31 January 2015 00:13 (nine years ago) link
monuments is a goof. mellon collie is the core, the heart music
― when is the new Jim O'Rourke album coming out (spazzmatazz), Saturday, 31 January 2015 00:30 (nine years ago) link
mellon collie is over. it doesn't matter. monuments is a 4 star album!
― It's strange to me too. But we're talking about praxis, man. (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 31 January 2015 00:35 (nine years ago) link
I need to say that I once saw Corgan give a poetry reading while reclining on a pillow with a light-up army helmet on.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 31 January 2015 00:43 (nine years ago) link
Because really http://files.umwblogs.org/blogs.dir/1886/files/2009/04/a0009263_22271348.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 31 January 2015 00:44 (nine years ago) link
http://assets.noisey.com/content-images/contentimage/26278/Corgan2.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 31 January 2015 00:46 (nine years ago) link
https://twitter.com/ZuZusTeahouse/status/561319453544448001
― when is the new Jim O'Rourke album coming out (spazzmatazz), Saturday, 31 January 2015 00:51 (nine years ago) link
that patch bay is absurd!
― It's strange to me too. But we're talking about praxis, man. (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 31 January 2015 00:56 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYI4XAG48YM&spfreload=10
― when is the new Jim O'Rourke album coming out (spazzmatazz), Sunday, 1 February 2015 04:38 (nine years ago) link
http://media.salon.com/2011/02/he_knows_whats_cool-460x280.jpg
a Millie Corgan isn't cool. you know what's cool? a Billy Corgan.
― some dude, Sunday, 1 February 2015 19:19 (nine years ago) link
lol
― It's strange to me too. But we're talking about praxis, man. (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 1 February 2015 19:38 (nine years ago) link
Courtney asked us for advice about her ‘secret affair’ with Billy Corgan. I thought, Ewwww, at even the mention of Billy Corgan, whom nobody liked because he was such a crybaby, and Smashing Pumpkins took themselves way too seriously and were in no way punk rock.
guess who
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 22:11 (nine years ago) link
Josh In Chicago?
― It's strange to me too. But we're talking about praxis, man. (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 3 February 2015 22:29 (nine years ago) link
"Stereogum: No I think you’re right. The cycles for the way culture operates now are so much shorter. I feel bad — I often will interview a band, say a bunch of British guys who are 20, and it’s their first record, and they’re really excited. And then three years later they’ve put out their second or third album, and no one cares anymore, not necessarily because their album’s terrible but because it isn’t new.
Corgan: That feeds into the narcissistic strain. Why is that narcissistic strain there? Back in the day, I would run into Kim and Thurston backstage at a festival, and Thurston would talk to me about guitars and Kim would walk right past me. Why did Kim Gordon feel the need to walk past me? Why was I such a threat to Kim Gordon? I was a huge Sonic Youth fan. I saw Sonic Youth in ’87 at the Metro. I had every Sonic Youth album. I looked up to Kim Gordon. Why didn’t Kim Gordon walk past me in the hallway and mumble, “Hello?” Because what I represented was some sort of weird threat to their beautiful world that they were able to bubble around in for so many years."
― Nourry, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 22:30 (nine years ago) link
Courtney asked us for advice about her ‘secret affair’ with Billy Corgan.
What a weird, weird thing to ask Sonic Youth for advice about
― da croupier, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 22:31 (nine years ago) link
this is Courtney Love we're talking about
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 22:32 (nine years ago) link
ie a crazy person prone to oversharing/overexposing herself in a self-absorbed quest for validation
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 22:33 (nine years ago) link
I saw Sonic Youth in ’87 at the Metro.
lol HE WAS THERE MAN
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 22:34 (nine years ago) link
"BECK, HOW MUCH DO YOU TIP A LIMO DRIVER?"
"...."
― da croupier, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 22:34 (nine years ago) link
People named Kim are always hurting Billy Corgan deep in their heart
― kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 3 February 2015 22:34 (nine years ago) link
I like how the Stereogum question is actually about an entirely different phenomenon (the planned obsolescence built into the music industry) and Corgan instead takes it to be about people hurting his feelings.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 22:35 (nine years ago) link
it's also possible that kim gordon did not want to hear thurston and billy talk about guitars
― da croupier, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 22:38 (nine years ago) link
"it's just a piece of wood w some metal on it" - Kim Gordon in Guitar Player magazine circa '96 iirc
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 22:40 (nine years ago) link
"it's just a piece of wood w some metal on it" - Psychopath, on his rifle '96
― It's strange to me too. But we're talking about praxis, man. (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 3 February 2015 22:59 (nine years ago) link
Οὖτις, otm
― Nourry, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 23:31 (nine years ago) link
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kinda heartbreaking, in a "Betty White not being able to grasp why Bea Arthur doesn't like her" way
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 02:02 (nine years ago) link
maybe if Betty White wrote Cherub Rock
― It's strange to me too. But we're talking about praxis, man. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 02:09 (nine years ago) link
maybe if Billy Corgan wrote "Miami Is Nice"
― example (crüt), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 02:22 (nine years ago) link
When did Billy Corgan turn into Gollum?
Someone let me know.
― saki, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 02:26 (nine years ago) link
idgi
― It's strange to me too. But we're talking about praxis, man. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 02:33 (nine years ago) link
He looks like gollum and is prone to self-pity
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 02:38 (nine years ago) link
http://www.moviefancentral.com/images/pictures/review77597/08a52e8b5e8bea57c3cf2185a8dfcb98.jpg?1352614675
― It's strange to me too. But we're talking about praxis, man. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 02:41 (nine years ago) link
kinda surprised tht Corgan was into SY at all tbh
― Simon H., Wednesday, 4 February 2015 02:44 (nine years ago) link
I seem to remember some MCIS-era Guitar World interview where he's discussing SY tunings.
― RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 02:45 (nine years ago) link
I think he probably felt a bit like Chris Christie when Bruce Springsteen told him he didn't want to have anything to do with him.
― Poliopolice, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 02:57 (nine years ago) link
just remembered that both Sonic Youth and Smashing Pumpkins were on a Simpsons episode together as well...
― Poliopolice, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 02:58 (nine years ago) link
http://www.thrashhits.com/wpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/billy_jess02__oPt.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 04:15 (nine years ago) link
billco has said the riff in "1979" is a nod to Sonic Youth, even though he stole the song from the frogs.
― when is the new Jim O'Rourke album coming out (spazzmatazz), Wednesday, 4 February 2015 04:29 (nine years ago) link
oh many i forgot about billy corgan/jessica simpson. truly a celebrity couple for the ages.
― some dude, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 04:31 (nine years ago) link
Henry Rollins twerked before twerking existedOut of the mist I kissed your drug filled lips
― how's life, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 13:42 (nine years ago) link