Every huge artist has their "New Jersey" - a huge event album that ultimately feels a bit hollow & signals a career decline

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I will rep for Blood on Blood

Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 11 January 2015 15:49 (nine years ago) link

We never did determine if Elvis Costello had a New Jersey, but http://youtu.be/jNsgOhIcqNQ

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 11 January 2015 15:54 (nine years ago) link

If you're reading Rock and the Pop Narcotic for pop chart stats...

the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Sunday, 11 January 2015 16:09 (nine years ago) link

"EVERY HUGE ARTIST HAS A BE HERE NOW" AKA the UK version

Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 11 January 2015 16:18 (nine years ago) link

Backing up, to say Weezer Make Believe was an event album is really wrong, looks like it's not even multiplatinum, American Idiot is from the year before, did 15M sales, spawned a Broadway musical, and rewrote Green Days critical/establishment cred to the point they got in the Hall of Fame

Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 11 January 2015 16:18 (nine years ago) link

hahahaha holy fuck

soyrev, Sunday, 11 January 2015 16:20 (nine years ago) link

ilxor...

soyrev, Sunday, 11 January 2015 16:20 (nine years ago) link

Dire Straits?

Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 11 January 2015 16:54 (nine years ago) link

On Every Street did go platinum in the US (& sold 10 million worldwide) but I don't remember it being an event record. It felt like Dire Straits had been gone for too long.

ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Sunday, 11 January 2015 19:02 (nine years ago) link

It also came out about two weeks before Nevermind

ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Sunday, 11 January 2015 19:03 (nine years ago) link

iirc, Knopfler confidently and repeatedly proclaimed at the time that OES would be the biggest-selling album of all time.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 11 January 2015 19:04 (nine years ago) link

that's his own affair

ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Sunday, 11 January 2015 19:06 (nine years ago) link

I certainly remember a LOT of coverage in non music media (tabloids/tv) but i swear i cant remember any of the singles

Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 11 January 2015 19:13 (nine years ago) link

I remember "Calling Elvis" and "Heavy Fuel" getting tons of AOR airplay, though apparently neither of them charted. I also remember despising both songs.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 11 January 2015 19:18 (nine years ago) link

wiki says Calling Elvis only got to #21 but I think it got a lot of airplay as i listened on youtube and actually remember it

Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 11 January 2015 19:22 (nine years ago) link

(UK)

Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 11 January 2015 19:23 (nine years ago) link

CAS was their final album so I guess the game was really up

ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Sunday, 11 January 2015 19:27 (nine years ago) link

beasties have no new jersey
these five words i swear to you

billstevejim, Sunday, 11 January 2015 23:11 (nine years ago) link

I had to google fairweather johnson. Hootie had zero impact over here. Like DMB i wouldnt even know who they were if it wasnt for the internet

Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 11 January 2015 23:15 (nine years ago) link

I wish I could say that

I guess they don't have khaki low profile baseball hats in the UK though

Wu-Tang Clannad (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 11 January 2015 23:16 (nine years ago) link

where is this magical place you speak of

World B Frizzle (rip van wanko), Sunday, 11 January 2015 23:19 (nine years ago) link

you guys didnt get ocean colour scene, stereophonics and other britpop shit that we all hate and you guys wonder who we are talking about.
nu metal otoh did cross here

xp
the UK

Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 11 January 2015 23:19 (nine years ago) link

the land where kula shaker had hits.

billstevejim, Sunday, 11 January 2015 23:20 (nine years ago) link

OCS and Stereophonics were big enough to be on my radar even as a landlocked yank; didn't care for either though

World B Frizzle (rip van wanko), Sunday, 11 January 2015 23:24 (nine years ago) link

now Mansun -- that was a band

World B Frizzle (rip van wanko), Sunday, 11 January 2015 23:32 (nine years ago) link

Shania Twain - Up! ???

I can definitely confirm that Hootie & The Blowfish and Dave Matthews Band had zero impact here. I couldn't even tell you the name of a Hootie & The Blowfish song off the top of my head.

I think we cited Up in this thread.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 January 2015 23:39 (nine years ago) link

xpost:

The thing about "Britpop" (or whatever you want to call it) is that there were different strands running alongside each other which unfortunately all got lumped in together as one thing, which does nobody any favours. Mansun were more for those who were listening to Suede or Manic Street Preachers, rather than those listening to the OCS/Cast/Stereophonics "wing" of Britpop.

But anyway, back on topic...

What was Shakira's New Jersey? Oral Fixation? She Wolf?

i just looked at the list of biggest selling albums ever in canada to see if there was anything could fit itt and this : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Shiny_Tunes_2

is the 5th biggest selling album ever.

check the tracklist

Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 11 January 2015 23:48 (nine years ago) link

tempted to poll it

Cosmic Slop, Sunday, 11 January 2015 23:48 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

dunno if it came up on this thread -- so many 1986 superstar albums qualify -- but Break Every Rule, yes?

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 26 January 2015 01:12 (nine years ago) link

honestly, the drop in sales and success is so extreme (5x platinum to one, one top 10 hit rather than 3) it probably classifies more as a fairweather johnson

apparently in the uk it's album AFTER break every rule thats huge

da croupier, Monday, 26 January 2015 01:19 (nine years ago) link

two weeks pass...

George Harrison - Living in the Material World.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 February 2015 01:39 (nine years ago) link

one good one I thought of recently (re-reading Shakey the Neil Young book) is Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young - Deja Vu

follow up to the mega debut CSN album, according to the book shipped 4 mil out the gate, spawned huge overblown stadium tour, but isn't very well regarded now

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 13 February 2015 01:49 (nine years ago) link

but no one thought Deja Vu triggered a decline, especially when the solo projects still sold pretty well.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 February 2015 02:07 (nine years ago) link

Isn't well regarded now by whom?

ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Friday, 13 February 2015 02:19 (nine years ago) link

crosby stills nash & young to start

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 13 February 2015 02:20 (nine years ago) link

That album is fire

ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Friday, 13 February 2015 02:21 (nine years ago) link

Who cares what they think

ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Friday, 13 February 2015 02:22 (nine years ago) link

also it's the decline of the GROUP - they didn't do another album for years & neil got big but he was kinda his own thing to begin with

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 13 February 2015 02:22 (nine years ago) link

I will just say that Deja Vu is viewed as one of the two great CSN/Y records, which invalidates it as a New Jersey.

ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Friday, 13 February 2015 02:27 (nine years ago) link

Isn't Deja Vu considered the best CSN(Y) record? And it's not like "Our House," "Woodstock," or "Teach Your Children" have gone the way of "Born to Be My Baby" or "Lay Your Hands on Me."

intheblanks, Friday, 13 February 2015 02:28 (nine years ago) link

Not to mention "Helpless" or "Almost Cut My Hair"

ancient texts, things that can't be pre-dated (President Keyes), Friday, 13 February 2015 02:33 (nine years ago) link

Alright rescinded!

kurt kobaïan (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 13 February 2015 02:51 (nine years ago) link

six months pass...

too early to call but this new macklemore video seems pretty classically new jersey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGhoLcsr8GA#t=47

Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 September 2015 13:51 (eight years ago) link

tbh i could see it as a total free-fall bomb, but yeah it does have the attempted BIGNESS.

Gorefest Frump (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 3 September 2015 13:54 (eight years ago) link

yeah it could just be bomb but that video is like man....10 pounds of shit in a 5 pound sock

Ma$e-en-scène (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 3 September 2015 14:01 (eight years ago) link


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