stupid girl sucks because neil could do/has done so much better. he has a good heart.
but more importantly, who is going to help me slay danger bird
― vigetable (La Lechera), Friday, 19 December 2014 00:49 (nine years ago) link
barstool blues is fuckin CRAZY. i burn my voice out singing to that tune
― marcos, Friday, 19 December 2014 00:49 (nine years ago) link
YEAH
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Friday, 19 December 2014 00:50 (nine years ago) link
not me! ~ right in my range~
― vigetable (La Lechera), Friday, 19 December 2014 00:50 (nine years ago) link
danger bird is such a dinosaur of a classic hard rock song, and i say that in the most positive way. i listen to it and i just think "heavy classic rock dinosaur" but it blows away any of the real classic rock dinosaurs
― marcos, Friday, 19 December 2014 00:51 (nine years ago) link
i sing along to the barstool blues solo too. doodeedooo neerneerneerneeeeeer
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Friday, 19 December 2014 00:51 (nine years ago) link
oh totally
― marcos, Friday, 19 December 2014 00:52 (nine years ago) link
also sad to see through my sails not get a ton of love. i dig that tune but i dig CSNY for the most part.
― marcos, Friday, 19 December 2014 00:58 (nine years ago) link
also i think i'm gonna start saying "YOU REALLY GOT A LOT TO LEARN" whenever i disagree with someone
― marcos, Friday, 19 December 2014 00:59 (nine years ago) link
think i'll start saying "I SAW YOU IN MERCEDES BENZ" when i see joe-joe in mercedes benz
― $80 is absurd and very ridiculous! (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 19 December 2014 01:36 (nine years ago) link
Maybe worse than the lyrics is the (unusual occurrence of) Neil's double vocal track - in octaves, no less (not harmony). Hate that. Definitely worst song on Zuma
― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Friday, 19 December 2014 01:48 (nine years ago) link
yeah those octaves are... not kind
― languagelessness (mattresslessness), Friday, 19 December 2014 02:06 (nine years ago) link
Lou Reed would have at least thrown a couple good, cruel jokes into a song called "Stupid Girl"
Lou did of course write a song about a "Stupid Man", a man who hitch-hiked out of a good lifein Saskatchewan and who had big big plans to build a house upon some land (I mean, how stupid is that?)
― Root It Oot (Tom D.), Friday, 19 December 2014 12:57 (nine years ago) link
that song is great
― Οὖτις, Friday, 19 December 2014 21:29 (nine years ago) link
neil's most consistent album
actually otm in my book
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 20:51 (three years ago) link
Brad have you heard Dume??
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 20:54 (three years ago) link
i haven't!!!!
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 20:54 (three years ago) link
This is Young's best album.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 21:05 (three years ago) link
how can an album contain "Lookin' for a Love," "Don't Cry No Tears," and "Pardon My Heart"?!
Xpost Brad it's amazing, basically everything they did during the Zuma sessions, including Crazy Horse doing Ride My Llama,a studio Powder finger, one or two unheard songs, plus the Zuma stuff, basically like if Zuma was a double album
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 21:17 (three years ago) link
A very close second to Everybody/Gold Rush for me, ahead of the more celebrated Beach/Tonight. Not a song I consider less than great, even "Through My Sails."
― clemenza, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 21:19 (three years ago) link
"through my sails" is one of my favorites tbh. "stupid girl" is the one i roll my eyes at a little.
― John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 21:30 (three years ago) link
gotta hear Dume I guess
― John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 21:36 (three years ago) link
"through my sails" sits proudly on a playlist i created called "neil young songs that make you feel some type of way"
― voodoo chili, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 21:36 (three years ago) link
lol there are a lot of those
― John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 21:37 (three years ago) link
oh nm i see what u mean
right, it's that particular "type of way" that only the loveliest neil songs make you feel haha
― voodoo chili, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 21:39 (three years ago) link
it's a vibe for sure
"total confusiondisillusion"
set to the prettiest lullabye
― John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 21:40 (three years ago) link
*Googles Dume*
― Duke, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 21:48 (three years ago) link
Ah. An Archives thing.
― Duke, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 21:50 (three years ago) link
Danger Bird is so so good
― charlie rex, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 21:50 (three years ago) link
I know "Stupid Girl" is not exactly made for these times. As I think others have pointed out in various Neil threads: it's about a specific woman, not women, and I don't think Neil has ever been particularly misogynistic. He's mostly starry-eyed and worshipful, which I guess is also an archaic way of treating women. In any event, I mostly just hear "Stupid Girl" as sound.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 22:09 (three years ago) link
Oh i know all that, still not my fav
― John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 22:12 (three years ago) link
great song imo
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 22:13 (three years ago) link
he's not necessarily misogynistic, just weird about women sometimes imo xp
― John Cooper of Christian rock band Skillet (map), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 22:14 (three years ago) link
god the cortez on rust bucket rules so hard
― brimstead, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 22:15 (three years ago) link
"danger bird" would've gotten my vote here if "cortez" weren't the greatest song ever written
― voodoo chili, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 22:21 (three years ago) link
Lou Reed loved "Danger Bird" iirc
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 22:28 (three years ago) link
"Stupid Girl" has great unusual chord changes.
― Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 23:01 (three years ago) link
Plus great guitar sound/playing.
― Duncan Disorderly (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 23:02 (three years ago) link
Young's gee-tar has never been mixed on an album to sound this crinkly and awesome
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 23:18 (three years ago) link
Pretty sure every single solitary man of his generation has problematic beliefs about how to treat women. “Stupid Girl” does not move me and I consider it filler but easy to skip/endure when every other song is good on the album.
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 23 March 2021 23:27 (three years ago) link
― BlackIronPrison, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 23:34 (three years ago) link
I was thinking about "Through My Sails" and how, up to that point (it gets worse starting with Long May You Run), uniformly excellent Neil's songs are whenever he got together with CSN: "Helpless," "Country Girl," "Sea of Madness," "Ohio," "Through My Sails," probably a couple of others. I imagine--I'm sure others have suggested the same--Neil loved showing off, loved to remind them how much better a songwriter he basically was.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 23:53 (three years ago) link
I could never love this record, I find the epics dull. My favourite extended Crazy Horse song is "Change Your Mind"."Barstool Blues" would have been my pick from this one.
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 00:32 (three years ago) link
I tend to skip "Cortez...," yeah.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 00:45 (three years ago) link
I don't object in principle to Neil playing three chords endlessly, but the song itself has to mean something to me.
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 00:52 (three years ago) link
If you don’t like the slow jams are you even listening to Neil Young?
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 24 March 2021 00:57 (three years ago) link
"On the Beach" is more my speed.
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 24 March 2021 01:00 (three years ago) link