Neil Young - Zuma

XPS Besides, What's Poncho-era Crazy Horse without something boneheaded?

i was about to defend 'stupid girl' but yeah it's garbage

guitars seconded, not garbage

sorry, that is just how i feel.

Also stupid lyrics from Neil Young? Not exactly an unusual occurence... though less so than Lou Reed for instance.

Lou Reed would have at least thrown a couple good, cruel jokes into a song called "Stupid Girl"

It's no classic, that's for sure!

stupid girl sucks because neil could do/has done so much better. he has a good heart.

but more importantly, who is going to help me slay danger bird

barstool blues is fuckin CRAZY. i burn my voice out singing to that tune

YEAH

not me! ~ right in my range~

danger bird is such a dinosaur of a classic hard rock song, and i say that in the most positive way. i listen to it and i just think "heavy classic rock dinosaur" but it blows away any of the real classic rock dinosaurs

i sing along to the barstool blues solo too. doodeedooo neerneerneerneeeeeer

oh totally

also sad to see through my sails not get a ton of love. i dig that tune but i dig CSNY for the most part.

also i think i'm gonna start saying "YOU REALLY GOT A LOT TO LEARN" whenever i disagree with someone

think i'll start saying "I SAW YOU IN MERCEDES BENZ" when i see joe-joe in mercedes benz

Maybe worse than the lyrics is the (unusual occurrence of) Neil's double vocal track - in octaves, no less (not harmony). Hate that. Definitely worst song on Zuma

yeah those octaves are... not kind

Lou Reed would have at least thrown a couple good, cruel jokes into a song called "Stupid Girl"

Lou did of course write a song about a "Stupid Man", a man who hitch-hiked out of a good life
in Saskatchewan and who had big big plans to build a house upon some land (I mean, how stupid is that?)

that song is great

neil's most consistent album

actually otm in my book

Brad have you heard Dume??

i haven't!!!!

This is Young's best album.

how can an album contain "Lookin' for a Love," "Don't Cry No Tears," and "Pardon My Heart"?!

Xpost Brad it's amazing, basically everything they did during the Zuma sessions, including Crazy Horse doing Ride My Llama,a studio Powder finger, one or two unheard songs, plus the Zuma stuff, basically like if Zuma was a double album

A very close second to Everybody/Gold Rush for me, ahead of the more celebrated Beach/Tonight. Not a song I consider less than great, even "Through My Sails."

"through my sails" is one of my favorites tbh. "stupid girl" is the one i roll my eyes at a little.

gotta hear Dume I guess

"through my sails" sits proudly on a playlist i created called "neil young songs that make you feel some type of way"

lol there are a lot of those

oh nm i see what u mean

right, it's that particular "type of way" that only the loveliest neil songs make you feel haha

it's a vibe for sure

"total confusion
disillusion"

set to the prettiest lullabye

*Googles Dume*

Ah. An Archives thing.

Danger Bird is so so good

I know "Stupid Girl" is not exactly made for these times. As I think others have pointed out in various Neil threads: it's about a specific woman, not women, and I don't think Neil has ever been particularly misogynistic. He's mostly starry-eyed and worshipful, which I guess is also an archaic way of treating women. In any event, I mostly just hear "Stupid Girl" as sound.

Oh i know all that, still not my fav

great song imo

he's not necessarily misogynistic, just weird about women sometimes imo xp

god the cortez on rust bucket rules so hard

Danger Bird is so so good

"danger bird" would've gotten my vote here if "cortez" weren't the greatest song ever written

Lou Reed loved "Danger Bird" iirc

"Stupid Girl" has great unusual chord changes.

Plus great guitar sound/playing.

Young's gee-tar has never been mixed on an album to sound this crinkly and awesome

Pretty sure every single solitary man of his generation has problematic beliefs about how to treat women.
“Stupid Girl” does not move me and I consider it filler but easy to skip/endure when every other song is good on the album.