Probably the kind of bands that are just two people and need to hire backup musicians who aren't invested in the band
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 24 November 2014 23:04 (nine years ago) link
We, the creative class, are finding ways to make a living making music, drawing webcomics, writing articles, coding games, recording podcasts. Most people don’t know our names or faces. We are not on magazine covers at the grocery store. We are not rich, and we are not famous.
We are the mom and pop corner store version of “the dream.” If Lady Gaga is McDonald’s, we’re Betty’s Diner. And we’re open 24/7.
We have not “made it.” We’re making it.
And by it we mean "Pharrell Mashup."
― da croupier, Monday, 24 November 2014 23:04 (nine years ago) link
do they really need four extra salaried musicians? Wouldn't loops be more charming and appropriate to their shtick?
― da croupier, Monday, 24 November 2014 23:06 (nine years ago) link
Their expenses are definitely a little lavish for "DIY" -- they have their own lights, there's obviously no couch surfing going on, etc.
I can't help but think they're lying and stashing the rest of their profits in the Cayman Islands somewhere, I just smell it on them.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 24 November 2014 23:06 (nine years ago) link
oh missed this bit
We could have played a duo show instead of hiring six people to tour with us. That would have saved us over $50,000, but it was important at this stage in Pomplamoose’s career to put on a wild and crazy rock show.
― da croupier, Monday, 24 November 2014 23:07 (nine years ago) link
The idea that they're just "investing in future tours" also made me snicker a little too, seems very foolish if that's legitimately what they think they're doing.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 24 November 2014 23:07 (nine years ago) link
Like it's hard for me to imagine them getting tons bigger than they are now.
i just can't understand why they bothered to write this article. "hey guys we're not as rich as you think." ...good?
― da croupier, Monday, 24 November 2014 23:08 (nine years ago) link
maybe people will stop thinking wacky covers of pop hits is the way to millions, and realize it for the difficult but rewarding work it is
― da croupier, Monday, 24 November 2014 23:09 (nine years ago) link
$8,750Sponsorship from Lenovo. Thank goodness for Lenovo!
― the portentous pepper (govern yourself accordingly), Monday, 24 November 2014 23:19 (nine years ago) link
honestly surprised they didn't find a sponsor to fund this whole affair.
― da croupier, Monday, 24 November 2014 23:27 (nine years ago) link
http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/pomplamoose/2014/mr-smalls-theatre-millvale-pa-3cf2123.html
like seriously, just put an OREOS banner behind this setlist, that will cover expenses i'm sure
― da croupier, Monday, 24 November 2014 23:30 (nine years ago) link
must be nice to make $6,326 per video you post on patreon (a company with $15 million in series a funding that you also happen to run)
― the portentous pepper (govern yourself accordingly), Monday, 24 November 2014 23:30 (nine years ago) link
bahahahaha I knew I smelled it
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Monday, 24 November 2014 23:40 (nine years ago) link
ajdfkghljasdf;ksdfc
― maura, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 00:17 (nine years ago) link
i clicked on that setlist link (why?) and i think i vomited in my mouth a little bit
― I dunno. (amateurist), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 00:23 (nine years ago) link
Lorde 2Pac Beck Mashup
― the dreaded Laramie (reddening), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 05:09 (nine years ago) link
how did i not know about the patreon connex. it all becomes clear now. these people are the heralds of our doom.
― celfie tucker 48 (s.clover), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 05:27 (nine years ago) link
rare pomplamoose pix
http://latimesphoto.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/fa_484_1952nixoncheckers9702.jpg
― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 07:47 (nine years ago) link
not to mention
http://www.patreon.com/natalydawnhttp://www.patreon.com/jackconte
― Number None, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 22:50 (nine years ago) link
Patreon is a pretty new platform, and I'm still figuring out the best way to use it.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 23:04 (nine years ago) link
Right, so that's $27,812 per month between the two of them. As long as they post their 6 vids a month. Good business if you can get it but how many people would be able to keep up that kind of workrate?
― everything, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 23:10 (nine years ago) link
Wait where are you getting $27,812?
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 23:17 (nine years ago) link
Pomplemoose gets $6326/vid, Nataly gets $2205/vid, Jack gets $5375/vid. They each do 2 vids a month, 6 in total every month. That = $27,812.00
― everything, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 23:41 (nine years ago) link
It's strange that Jack has double the patrons as Nataly but I guess the reason is that if you patronise him then you get all his chatter about recording and editing and so on? This guy has people who pay $200/month to have two 60 minutes skype sessions per month...
― everything, Tuesday, 25 November 2014 23:43 (nine years ago) link
Oh I thought they each did more like 1 vid per month. In any case it's a a pretty damn healthy income from one source
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 25 November 2014 23:57 (nine years ago) link
All that for chewing up the recent past and spitting it into peoples mouths. Earmouths.
― from the straining pagan waistbands (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 00:18 (nine years ago) link
How much do you reckon it costs them to make those videos?
― Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 01:57 (nine years ago) link
How much do you reckon it would cost us for them to stop making videos?
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 02:32 (nine years ago) link
Ha, are you going to start a patreonkickstarter campaign?
― Junior Dadaismus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 02:46 (nine years ago) link
Most amazing thing about the Poomplamoose tour breakdown thing is that I've learned there are people who would actually pay to see Poomplamoose.
― One bad call from barely losing to (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 13:30 (nine years ago) link
kickstopper
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 15:05 (nine years ago) link
We built the tour budget ourselves and modeled projected revenue against expenses. Neither of us had experience with financial modeling, so we just did the best we could.
― Face facts poptimism hacks, your a scam. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 16:54 (nine years ago) link
also you are apparently founder of like some well funded startup are you kidding me with this aw shucks what are all these numbers how does dollar work
― celfie tucker 48 (s.clover), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 16:59 (nine years ago) link
Yeah it really reads like he thought it was ok to put no thought whatsoever into what made financial sense on tour (bc you know, it's an investment in future tours!). He sounds like one of those people taking out a giant HELOC to put in a new open plan kitchen with viking range and wine fridge in a middle class neighborhood, or buying a $2000 suit for job interviews. Which would just seem dumb, except the whole Patreon thing makes it actually seem disingenuous. It's like their business model depends on making sure people don't think they're making a lot of money.
― my jaw left (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 17:00 (nine years ago) link
to be clear, i think that whole piece is a fig leaf of the amanda palmer variety to maintain a public persona of "WE CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT YOU"one of the big problems with the "our fans will support us" model is that when you start showing up in hyundai commercials, your fans start saying "oh, i guess they're paid; my six dollar a month patreon donation doesn't matter" which leads promptly to public television cries of "we haven't MADE IT we're MAKING IT... with your help"
― Face facts poptimism hacks, your a scam. (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 17:15 (nine years ago) link
I'm going to pay 1000 people $5 to watch me pay guitar for 3 mins at the fillmore and then be all like, "yeah, I sold 1000 seats at the fillmore at $30 a ticket, but I had $35,000 of overhead". I'm still making it you could say.
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 17:19 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtvaTdc_qIc
― ✓ out this insane nakh yall (gr8080), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 17:26 (nine years ago) link
after getting very depressed reading many Ferguson-related things before bed last night, this made me laugh. thank you for that pomplamooses.
― festival culture (Jordan), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 21:02 (nine years ago) link
it all does correspond to the startup "burn rate" mentality.
speaking of which burn rate is the perfect name for the inevitable silicon valley techno-thriller
― celfie tucker 48 (s.clover), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 21:05 (nine years ago) link
Just realized that Jack Conte is the FOUNDER of that Patreon site. Sorry if that was posted upthread and I missed it. So he gets a cut of every other campaign that's on the website. Yeah, he's really hurting for dough, send him your $$$$.
― everything, Wednesday, 26 November 2014 21:06 (nine years ago) link
I wonder if he repurposes the cut he gets from donations direct to him and/or Nataly?
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 21:41 (nine years ago) link
I wonder why he would lie about his bearded millions
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 21:51 (nine years ago) link
his maxxinista of the month award
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 21:54 (nine years ago) link
his goalrilla basketball hoop that is the nicest in the neighborhood
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 21:55 (nine years ago) link
fwiw every touring act i know who has successfully leveled up from the 500ish capacity rooms pomplamoose was apparently selling out on this tour to 1000-2000 capacity rooms had to do money-losing tours in order to do it
a lot of bands operating at their level who can do so successfully are either major label baby bands who get tour support or canadian indie acts who can get arts grants to tour the US
not to get into a whole thing about it but of all the aspects of this band's career that can be called out as ridiculous i personally don't think those tour expenses are all that weird for a band at their level doing what they're trying to do
― james brooks, Wednesday, 26 November 2014 22:14 (nine years ago) link
they are trying pomp the moose
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 22:16 (nine years ago) link
holy shit, that woman in the Maps video can sing. and that is all that I will say about her here in this public forum ... yup ... that's all.
― alpine static, Tuesday, November 11, 2014 1:09 AM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
she has a cover of one of my favorite later Prince songs on the R&B charts right now, pretty legit imo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhbS3BFtXDk
― Murghan Troidor (some dude), Wednesday, 26 November 2014 23:12 (nine years ago) link
Patreon was founded in May 2013 by artist Jack Conte, who was looking for a way to make a living from his popular YouTube videos. Together with Sam Yam he developed a platform that allows patrons to donate a set amount of money every time an artist creates a work of art. The company raised $2.1 million in August 2013 from a group of venture capitalists and angel investors. In June 2014 the company raised a further $15 million in a series A round led by Danny Rimer of Index Ventures.In late 2014, the website announced that patrons were sending over $1 million per month to the site's content creators.Patreon takes a 5% commission on pledges.
In late 2014, the website announced that patrons were sending over $1 million per month to the site's content creators.Patreon takes a 5% commission on pledges.
― everything, Thursday, 27 November 2014 00:13 (nine years ago) link
SAM YAM? Even his business partners are tweely monikered!
― Don A Henley And Get Over It (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 27 November 2014 00:45 (nine years ago) link