I was waiting for my turn like a respectable human being!
― example (crüt), Monday, 27 October 2014 15:31 (nine years ago) link
I apologize for not emailing you, crüt. I should have checked with everyone in the 61-68 range before I said go ahead.
― Pict in a blanket (WilliamC), Monday, 27 October 2014 15:38 (nine years ago) link
thanks Wm. sorry for throwing a tantrum.
― example (crüt), Monday, 27 October 2014 15:41 (nine years ago) link
Even though I've taken part in a few of these polls, I don't understand the point of the nominations threads.
― ... and a Martin Parr photo essay (Tom D.), Monday, 27 October 2014 15:54 (nine years ago) link
xp -- no worries, that's a legit gripe. PS, there are a ton of polls coming up that I don't care about, but I'm stoked for the CCR listening party.
― Pict in a blanket (WilliamC), Monday, 27 October 2014 16:20 (nine years ago) link
me too
― sleeve, Monday, 27 October 2014 16:24 (nine years ago) link
Nominations threads remind people (especially people with bad memories, like me) of things that are available to vote for. I don't believe in nominations without write-ins. Theoretically lobbying threads could/should perform the function of the nominations threads, but in practice they never do. My theory as to why is that people only concentrate on their own absolute favourites in lobbying threads, and worry that over-lobbying dilutes the effect.
― emil.y, Monday, 27 October 2014 16:29 (nine years ago) link
And I guess that nominations threads also allow us to hash out ground rules?
― My Life with the Thrillho Kult (Leee), Monday, 27 October 2014 16:52 (nine years ago) link
for what it's worth, I intend to open the P-Funk poll noms thread tomorrow. I find most nominations threads pointless but with this gargantuan catalog I expect it to be a little more useful than normal. Will probably let it run for a week or two.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 27 October 2014 23:26 (nine years ago) link
noms thread = voting thread?
― Pict in a blanket (WilliamC), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 01:11 (nine years ago) link
Well yeah
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 01:35 (nine years ago) link
Yes it's going to be hard work this!
― ... and a Martin Parr photo essay (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 13:25 (nine years ago) link
I don't know about others, but when I've ran polls, I've used the nomination threads to ease my job a bit. If you let people vote freely, you might end up with a list with thousands of entries, all of which you have to write down, check the correct spelling, check if they're eligible, and mark the points given to them, even though the majority of them will get just 1 or 2 votes. With a nomination process, the list will be much more manageable, and once the voting starts you just have to write down the points.
Obviously this applies to open-ended genre polls only, if the pool of entries is definite to begin with (such as one band's output), nominations aren't needed.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 13:47 (nine years ago) link
What list?
― ... and a Martin Parr photo essay (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 15:48 (nine years ago) link
The list of tracks that received votes.
― Tantivleee Mucker-Maffick (Leee), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 16:36 (nine years ago) link
Elvis T, if you look at this thread, what's the status of Spacemen 3?
― Pict in a blanket (WilliamC), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 01:40 (nine years ago) link
They split up donkey's years ago
― Turtleneck Work Solutions (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 07:53 (nine years ago) link
Actually just came into the thread to post that I'm finally ready to roll on SP3.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 08:38 (nine years ago) link
daavid's ready to go with Italo, too -- will you two hash out who's going to go next? thx
― Pict in a blanket (WilliamC), Wednesday, 29 October 2014 12:37 (nine years ago) link
I'll go after daavid then.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 29 October 2014 18:40 (nine years ago) link
Er, Elvis, would you mind going first? I was planning to wait an extra week or two anyway (at least after the P-Funk voting period was over as JF suggested) which was convenient cause It's kind of a busy time for me.
― daavid, Thursday, 30 October 2014 15:00 (nine years ago) link
> Agreed. My disco poll had 50 track ballots, and even those were a whole lot of work to tally.
54 ballots would have been so much more apt....
― and in his absence, she (Lee626), Thursday, 30 October 2014 15:24 (nine years ago) link
What is going on with the Yo La Tengo poll?
― Van Horn Street, Saturday, 1 November 2014 21:59 (nine years ago) link
next canada day
― mookieproof, Saturday, 1 November 2014 22:00 (nine years ago) link
clemenza claimed them, but only has a tiny window every year to run a poll, and this year's window snuck past everybody -- i.e., me and clemenza.
― Pict in a blanket (WilliamC), Saturday, 1 November 2014 22:13 (nine years ago) link
I can do it in the second of half november, if you guys don't mind.
― Van Horn Street, Saturday, 1 November 2014 22:37 (nine years ago) link
That'll be clemenza's call.
There's also the EOY voting hiatus -- crap, have we been doing these things long enough to call it the "traditional" hiatus?
― Pict in a blanket (WilliamC), Saturday, 1 November 2014 23:54 (nine years ago) link
stoked for the italo poll.
― example (crüt), Sunday, 2 November 2014 03:22 (nine years ago) link
I'm looking forward to it for the education -- I have no idea what the hell italo is.
― Pict in a blanket (WilliamC), Sunday, 2 November 2014 12:35 (nine years ago) link
VHS: I was kind of looking forward to using a specific idea I had for Yo La Tengo images...mookieproof was going to help. If you really want to do it and there's no one able to do anything else, I guess you could take it over, but check with mookieproof first. I'll send you my image idea--it's something I know you'd get.
― clemenza, Sunday, 2 November 2014 13:13 (nine years ago) link
Got the images, that's a very good idea, you guys should do it!
― Van Horn Street, Sunday, 2 November 2014 15:50 (nine years ago) link
Suggestion: you and mookieproof run the poll whenever you can jump in there. Ballots, tabulation, threads, etc. I can do all the images in the next 2-3 weeks, leaving space for the song titles to be added later. Once you have results, I could fill in the titles in a night.
― clemenza, Sunday, 2 November 2014 15:58 (nine years ago) link
For what it's worth: getting the images ready is a lot easier than I expected--knocked off four in about 15 minutes. So if you guys are okay with me handling that end of it, quite happy to end the rest over whenever there's an opening.
― clemenza, Sunday, 2 November 2014 16:42 (nine years ago) link
YLT's catalogue is rather huge, should we get nominations? That's my only question now, I can handle the thread and counting process, clem has the images (can mookie can lend a hand?).
― Van Horn Street, Sunday, 2 November 2014 21:23 (nine years ago) link
Don't see why there should be nominations -- their discography is their discography is their discography. The pollrunner can decide whether to include Dump, Condo Fucks, the album w/Jad Fair, etc... everybody else can get on board or shut up, right?
― Pict in a blanket (WilliamC), Sunday, 2 November 2014 21:43 (nine years ago) link
Ok that is what I thought, it's just that they have other, what 250 songs? I was afraid some people would ask for nominations because of that. I'm the asking type.
― Van Horn Street, Sunday, 2 November 2014 21:47 (nine years ago) link
I wasn't going to bother with nominations, for the same reason WC gives; their discography is pretty straightforward and easily searchable online. I was going to include side projects, but you and mookie decide. I vote for them anyway whenever I want to--I'd have a couple of Dump songs for sure--it doesn't really matter to me whether those votes means anything or not. (In almost all cases, they won't.)
― clemenza, Sunday, 2 November 2014 21:58 (nine years ago) link
I means what I say.
Noms threads are generally for genre polls with fuzzy edges -- disco, Classic Rock, etc. Not usually needed for single-artist polls.
VHS, you're new-ish to ILM? Usually these polls take a breather while the poll-friendly among us vote on the year in review in December and those results roll out in January, then the artist polls pick back up in late Jan/early Feb. I'd say we've got time for P-Funk and one more (Spacemen 3 I presume) before the break.
― Pict in a blanket (WilliamC), Sunday, 2 November 2014 22:11 (nine years ago) link
Yeah I'm familiar with the process, already signed up for the DFA records poll in a while.
― Van Horn Street, Sunday, 2 November 2014 22:34 (nine years ago) link
Im also new-ish, indeed.
― Van Horn Street, Sunday, 2 November 2014 22:35 (nine years ago) link
already signed up for the DFA records poll in a while
Oh yeah, that's right, sorry -- I'm deep in the weeds at work today and forgot about that.
― Pict in a blanket (WilliamC), Sunday, 2 November 2014 22:59 (nine years ago) link
i can do whatever for ylt, but i've never run a poll before
my instinct would be to exclude dump and double dynamite; condo fucks and jad fair collaborations seem like fair game but tbf i'll sniff at votes for them
sub-poll for favorite covers might be cool, as they've done so many
― mookieproof, Sunday, 2 November 2014 23:45 (nine years ago) link
I had an hour free and I was toying with the idea of making something like this for the Stereolab poll. I don't know if it would look to repetitive after seeing it 50 times with different color variations, though. What do you guys think?
http://i.imgur.com/nnH06l0.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/lQp8IC5.jpg
― Moka, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 22:48 (nine years ago) link
Those look amazing, Moka.
― emil.y, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 22:50 (nine years ago) link
Looks great, but even with a template it's gotta be labor intensive for each one.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 22:50 (nine years ago) link
Thanks!
Well, I can make a set of color templates for each album (like shades of orange for Margerine eclipse, shades of green and blue for Dots and Loops as seen above) and it becomes quite easy to modify. Just change text here and there and you're ready to go. I'd waste more time looking for images to accompany each song than with a template to be honest.
― Moka, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 22:54 (nine years ago) link
Got it.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 4 November 2014 22:55 (nine years ago) link
Those look really really cool.
― Pict in a blanket (WilliamC), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 22:56 (nine years ago) link
Yeah those are great Moka!
― a pleasant little psychedelic detour in the elevator (Amory Blaine), Tuesday, 4 November 2014 23:06 (nine years ago) link