elo vs. tubeway army
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 24 October 2014 18:21 (nine years ago) link
Sounds more like Zappa than ever. They weren't lying about this being his magnum opus though. Pretty much untouchable record.
― Pentenema Karten, Friday, 24 October 2014 18:22 (nine years ago) link
Half good half shit.
― nostormo, Friday, 24 October 2014 20:29 (nine years ago) link
Where's the shit?
― Pentenema Karten, Friday, 24 October 2014 20:34 (nine years ago) link
curious to hear it. enjoyed "before today" and "mature themes" is okay but i really do feel like a substantial part of the AP appeal for me was having these weird pop tunes submerged in hazy lo-fi crud, i actually did feel like the production served his tunes really well, that whole aesthetic can suck for a lot of other bands but for his shtick i think it really worked.
― marcos, Friday, 24 October 2014 20:38 (nine years ago) link
I want to know what filters Pink uses on his voice, or microphones. The delivery on "Cocaine man has got a Portabello world" for example.
― Pentenema Karten, Friday, 24 October 2014 21:10 (nine years ago) link
Haha holy shit this record! Ariel really Zappa-ing out the very best of his tune-smithery and shenanigans. This beats BT and MT by miles and miles. And yet it's not a return to Doldrums either. I can see why he left off the Haunted Gaffitii part of the name for this. As it is truly something else, even for him and his extensive back catalogue. Continues to amaze, this guy.
― definite classic, predicting a solid 8/10 from the p-fork boys (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 24 October 2014 22:09 (nine years ago) link
So many songs on this that are instant classics. 'Picture me gone' for one. Amazing.
― definite classic, predicting a solid 8/10 from the p-fork boys (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 24 October 2014 22:19 (nine years ago) link
"Plastic Raincoats in the Pig Parade" is so so incredibly sad for such an upbeat song.
― Pentenema Karten, Friday, 24 October 2014 22:29 (nine years ago) link
Jell-O is the best song in the history of the universe right now. Whatever universe. The sound of the band Yellow combined with maximum riffage combined with teenage Cobain like lyrics ("mom and dad are normal, everyone eats white bread, that's why they're all dead"), combined with stadium rock, combined with Beefheartian style switches... I am perplexed: as a long time follower, Ariel Pink gone done it again.
― definite classic, predicting a solid 8/10 from the p-fork boys (Le Bateau Ivre), Friday, 24 October 2014 23:20 (nine years ago) link
This kind of sounds like the old ones, but doesn't. It's the best of his "new style." I've been wanting the same thing.
― afriendlypioneer, Friday, 24 October 2014 23:21 (nine years ago) link
who wants to go to the emotional olympics!!?!boooo
― Pentenema Karten, Friday, 24 October 2014 23:26 (nine years ago) link
All these descriptions are really making me want to hear this. I think he's always had a latent Zappa sensibility, so it's cool that it's coming to the fore now
― Free Me's Electric Trumpet (Moodles), Saturday, 25 October 2014 00:47 (nine years ago) link
Each song is a mini-masterpiece that blossoms with each listen. Magnum opus indeed!
― Pentenema Karten, Saturday, 25 October 2014 01:01 (nine years ago) link
pom pom is also noticeably LOUDER than most everything in my iTunes... a/b-ing with Mature Themes is crazy
― Pentenema Karten, Saturday, 25 October 2014 07:11 (nine years ago) link
Jell-O is the best song in the history of the universe right now
That whole side (side 3 on the vinyl?) is my favorite. "Sticky cubes of Kool-Aid action"
― ©Oz Quiz© (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 25 October 2014 15:18 (nine years ago) link
I miss the more personal,intimate Ariel Pink songs, like Gray Sunset, The People I'm Not etc...It seems he somewhat lost it in a Todd Rundgren's Wizard True Star kinda way.
― nostormo, Saturday, 25 October 2014 17:36 (nine years ago) link
but thats todd's masterpiece
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Saturday, 25 October 2014 17:58 (nine years ago) link
Ariel Pink Performs "Jell-o" and "Picture Me Gone" with P.S. 22 Chorus of Fifth Graders
― Amory Blaine, Monday, 27 October 2014 13:48 (nine years ago) link
Looking like a Cool Dad right there
― DDD, Monday, 27 October 2014 16:23 (nine years ago) link
" Like, you guys can burn me on the stake for being an asshole. I'll be the biggest asshole, the biggest troll. I love the [infamously homophobic] Westboro Baptist Church, because I love being able to remind people that this a country where you can say, "You're going to go to hell," and you won't go to jail. People hate that. They hate that these people are allowed to do what they're doing, but they're just exercising their free speech, and it doesn't hurt you. They're just inciting. They're trying to play into your weaknesses, and they're doing it very well, because they're going to get your revenge fantasy on them. And you'll do it carelessly without any remorse, because you didn't get the right message from the lesson, and because everybody's just getting lost in the fucking giant miasma of opinions, and there's no sense to be made out of them."
update interview: http://pitchfork.com/features/update/9498-ariel-pink/
― Raccoon Tanuki, Monday, 27 October 2014 18:26 (nine years ago) link
haven't heard the new album yet but if ilx is touting it despite pink's odious personality it must be something special
― Mordy, Monday, 27 October 2014 18:34 (nine years ago) link
xpost why does every dipshit that holds that opinion act like he's the first to have it
has ariel found out about 4chan yet?
― u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 27 October 2014 18:44 (nine years ago) link
someone made dizzy by the contours of a pretzel might be impressed by that opinion
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 27 October 2014 19:13 (nine years ago) link
dude has eaten some cosmic shape-shifter pretzels
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 27 October 2014 19:14 (nine years ago) link
this formula 1 track is complicated, but imagine if it were as complicated as a pretzel!!!http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2010/05/monticello.jpg
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 27 October 2014 19:17 (nine years ago) link
it's amazing how much of an asshole this talented man is
― I dunno. (amateurist), Monday, 27 October 2014 22:23 (nine years ago) link
surely assholeness in humans is far more common than talent?
― Mordy, Monday, 27 October 2014 22:24 (nine years ago) link
he has both in concentrated doses
― I dunno. (amateurist), Monday, 27 October 2014 22:25 (nine years ago) link
and they react to produce yawns
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 27 October 2014 22:26 (nine years ago) link
"pom pom" is the first album where he sounds 100 percent sure of himself. almost like he turned into the fake rock star he imagined in his head decades ago.
the asshole/troll stance goes right along with it too
― hackshaw, Monday, 27 October 2014 22:41 (nine years ago) link
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― Amory Blaine, Monday, 27 October 2014 23:35 (nine years ago) link
there is so much sadness in this album. it's haunting... the mood swings just within "Sexual Athletics," the 'sex king' rock strut pose, the delusions, then the xylophone section... "all i wanted was a girlfriend all of my life" ...
― Pentenema Karten, Monday, 27 October 2014 23:38 (nine years ago) link
AP is playing the heel to promote this album, he's doing Ann Coulter and it's working.
― Pentenema Karten, Monday, 27 October 2014 23:46 (nine years ago) link
My good friend knows AP very well. I told him to tell him to take it easy with these wacky interviews, he's getting people angry and my friend laughed and said "he doesn't give a fuck."
― kornrulez6969, Monday, 27 October 2014 23:51 (nine years ago) link
yeah the whole thing has the queasy end of the world feeling to it. just totally baffling. even the joke songs sound totally menacing
― hackshaw, Monday, 27 October 2014 23:52 (nine years ago) link
I mean, we're not likely to see AP live another 10 years, it feels like.
― Pentenema Karten, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 04:24 (nine years ago) link
I had a dream he did UK Celebrity Big Brother last night
― PaulTMA, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 10:34 (nine years ago) link
the first half of this record is much better than the second imo, when he goes all zappa-ish. (except for Picture Me Gone and Dayzed Inn Daydreams, which are good too).
― nostormo, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 13:34 (nine years ago) link
also, was he married to porn star Alisa Daniels?or is it just the same name..
― nostormo, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 13:36 (nine years ago) link
I'm blown away by the samples on this. The Gremlins theme song in Dinosaur Carebears is my fave. And what in the fresh hell is the source of that excited gibberish at the end of Negativ Ed??
― Cousin Slappy, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 19:39 (nine years ago) link
Is it too soon to call this AP's 'Trout Mask Replica'? It probably is, yet I do think ultimately this is the case.
No small feat to return to your lo-fi roots after two hit 'hi-fi'-albums and turning everything inside out again. I still don't love nearly half of the cuts on here, but can already feel the lure, knowing I will love them soon. The easy to love songs just pull you in, and then there's no way back but to love the shit out of this.
― Amory Blaine, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 20:55 (nine years ago) link
Another thing- The sound recording on this album is really really good. Haven't heard an album mixed and engineered as well as this in long time.
― Raccoon Tanuki, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 21:02 (nine years ago) link
still haven't heard it but yea even the doldrums or worn copy have ton of crap on them, but for me the crap is all part of the big picture imo with this dude. i am worried though that i know too much about AP now that might affect how i hear it. not talking exclusively about the sexist dumbfuckery that he spouts all the time, i mean that's part of it for sure, but more just that i think i kind of enjoyed his music more when i didn't know too much about him, that he just seemed like some anonymous weirdo savant putting out all these bizarre muffled lo-fi pop songs contributed more to the whole "haunted graffiti" aesthetic, with these songs all being these ghost shells of 60s, 70s, and 80s pop hits i heard on the radio growing up. i still appreciate his general zappa-esque quirkiness but tbh some of those older albums, before i knew much about AP, creeped me out in a way that was really interesting and intriguing.
― marcos, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 21:04 (nine years ago) link
i mean "before today" is really good but i never identified with all the "wow AP finally puts these songs through some proper production and makes his definitive album!" bullshit. the fact that so many of the early albums were half-finished songs, shitty recordings, etc. was always part of the picture for me. those early versions of "round and round" are creepy as fuck, and yes they are not the pop masterpiece that "round and round" ended up being but their rough qualities served an aesthetic really, really well. that aesthetic was always the most intriguing part of AP imo
― marcos, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 21:08 (nine years ago) link
but this
No small feat to return to your lo-fi roots after two hit 'hi-fi'-albums and turning everything inside out again.
― marcos, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 21:09 (nine years ago) link
It is not Trout Mask. Let's not exaggerate.It does somewhat return to his lo fi roots with the main difference that he is much more confident and less humble (and that's a disadvantage imo)
― nostormo, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 22:07 (nine years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/E4GyEbj.jpg
― nostormo, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 22:10 (nine years ago) link
those covers are amazing.
― Raccoon Tanuki, Tuesday, 28 October 2014 22:13 (nine years ago) link
pom pom is hi-fi according to that chart
― $0.00 Butter sauce only. No marinara. (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 28 October 2014 22:33 (nine years ago) link