WAHT ABOUT ROLLERSKATE SKINNY
― tylerw, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 02:11 (sixteen years ago) link
Lineup looks pretty boring - and essentially $400/person for ticket+room is way too expensive.
― toby, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 02:18 (sixteen years ago) link
that lineup looks great ...where did they say colm was out?
― akm, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 03:51 (sixteen years ago) link
no colm = waste of time
― electricsound, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 03:55 (sixteen years ago) link
I heard that from a little birdie, but it's not confirmed one way or the other.
― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 04:05 (sixteen years ago) link
Damn, $225 is about $175 over the price where I could still convince my girlfriend to go with me/give me a ride. Maybe I can catch them some other time...17 years later. FUCK
― Z S, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 04:32 (sixteen years ago) link
ok, so let me get this straight. the band i've dreamed about seeing live all these years are playing a sweet ass festival, about an hour from where i live. and tickets are fucking $400 (including room). yeah, that seems about right.
― Creeztophair, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 05:35 (sixteen years ago) link
Fuck it. I'm going to drop the loot. I know it's steep/ridiculous/highway robbery, but I just can't pass up this line-up, especially the MBV factor (full disclosure: I had a ticket to see them in 1992, but I was in 9th grade and the concert was on a school night & the rants dropped the kibosh on my legendary status as the only person in my generation to have been to a My Bloody Valentine concert). But sersiously: add in the BTS, Tortoise, Shellac, Mogwai and Low and my inner teenage indie rockist is doubling over with multiple orgasms. If I'm going to have a premature mid-life crisis and attempt to re-live my youth, at least this will be a lot less expensive than a Camaro.
― Pillbox, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 05:42 (sixteen years ago) link
Jesus Christ but the indie/alternative kids really are becoming the "I want to hear the classic music of my youth 'cause it was the best music" generation without making any bones about it, eh?
He's right you know.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 05:47 (sixteen years ago) link
The mention of Rollerskate Skinny and The Swirlies above made me daydream of a Rocklahoma-esque three-day jamboree of every shoegaze/noise pop/space rock group from the early-to-mid '90s. Maybe next decade..
― Pillbox, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 05:52 (sixteen years ago) link
Probably no Bostrom in the Puppets line-up either. I'll pass on this thanks.
― Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 06:23 (sixteen years ago) link
Which generation HASN'T done this?
― energy flash gordon, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 06:55 (sixteen years ago) link
They don't state explicitly that there will be no camping or single-day tickets (maybe there never are for ATP - I wouldn't know). They do say that 'limited' accommodation is available - are there really rooms for 3000 at that place? Seems unlikely under ordinary circumstances, but they may be stretching things.
With 6-8 US city shows, LA people have nothing to worry about. I'm assuming there will be an NYC shpw or one accessible at less cost than ATP, but it would be nice if they didn't play footsy with people about it.
― gabbneb, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 13:25 (sixteen years ago) link
Bilinda really is the girl with faraway eyes, isn't she?
― henry s, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 13:55 (sixteen years ago) link
colm is mos def in.
― Steve Shasta, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 15:58 (sixteen years ago) link
I'll believe MBV is playing somewhere when I freaking see it. And does anyone really give a shit about Polvo any more? You mean they couldn't get the Swirlies?
haha the Polvo show in Chapel Hill sold out on presales a month in advance
― J0hn D., Wednesday, 23 April 2008 16:08 (sixteen years ago) link
I guess, but the people getting excited to go see a bunch of people who haven't made any new music in ages come from the generation who Nelson Muntzed at oldsters going to see Clapton drag Layla out of the grave for the millionth time - for me, I don't care how good the band doin' the "here's the great music we made when we all were young!" was: if they're not making new music, it's sad & pernicious nostalgia
― J0hn D., Wednesday, 23 April 2008 16:11 (sixteen years ago) link
the new music often sucks though. why not just play what was good? this is what made the pixies shows so effective. yes it was a nostalgia trip, but they played that stuff better now than they did then.
― akm, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 16:20 (sixteen years ago) link
anyway I'm looking forward to the Sweden Don't Look Back shows
― akm, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 16:21 (sixteen years ago) link
John OTFM. Fuck a Smashing Pumpkins
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 16:23 (sixteen years ago) link
That being said, I'm flying to London to see Public Enemy do Nation Of Millions, so I'm as guilty as anyone, I guess.
who says they're not making new music?
― braveclub, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 16:26 (sixteen years ago) link
But the show is about an old record.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 16:30 (sixteen years ago) link
not to dissuadeyou from making me feel better about myself.
the first single off the last P.E. album was wonderful and totally slept on
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 16:31 (sixteen years ago) link
the generation who Nelson Muntzed at oldsters going to see Clapton drag Layla out of the grave for the millionth time
Also pathetic because the generation immediately proceeding MBV, Meat Puppets, Pixes et al. is still producing interesting-to-amazing new stuff. A line-up of The Fall, Bad Seeds, Pere Ubu, Mission of Burma and Wire could get by on their aughts material.
― bendy, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 16:32 (sixteen years ago) link
That ATP lineup is fucking snoresville.
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 16:33 (sixteen years ago) link
Uh, every generation does that too. Punks mocked the teddy boys for 50s R&R nostalgia, now all the old punk bands are playing again. SFW.
― Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 16:37 (sixteen years ago) link
Snoresville is on the other side of the Catskills
― gabbneb, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 16:39 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah cosign with this esp. in re: Burma, those guys live now are a lesson in how to reunite without working the nostalgia side of the street
― J0hn D., Wednesday, 23 April 2008 17:10 (sixteen years ago) link
[the pixies] played that stuff better now than they did then
uh, no.
― jergïns, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 17:15 (sixteen years ago) link
I was about to say that's really crazy, but I guess it's not really crazy in NC. Still, I find it hard to believe that there's a huge pent-up nostalgic demand to see Polvo in the public at large. Or at least, I would if Polvo wasn't one of the touchstones one of my friends was raving about when he saw the lineup.
I'm constantly vigilant about exactly what you're talking about above -- I hate JackFM and the whole "we'll play nothing but that awesome shit you grew up with 24 fucking 7" so this lineup (especially considering the really good chance that MBV is going to pull a baileroo) is only marginally more appealing to me than sitting at home and pulling out albums by Velocity Girl, Chapterhouse and the 24-7 Spyz. I mean, yeah, it would probably be a great concert but I'm not THERE any more.
xp old bands playing new stuff: sign me up for that if it's good, like MoB. But the new Meat Puppets stuff has been kinda meh.
― Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 17:16 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm not THERE any more
And for me, there is 1998 at KUCI and looking at a lot of the playlists, based on this lineup. More than anything else I'm depressed by it. It's incredibly unadventurous.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 17:20 (sixteen years ago) link
do we know that more won't be announced?
― gabbneb, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 17:22 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah Nu Shooz and Glass Tiger are both gonna recreate the magic of their live albums
ok I'll stop now
― J0hn D., Wednesday, 23 April 2008 17:34 (sixteen years ago) link
Glass Tiger? Crap, now I gotta go to show my national prize. CURSE YOU JOHN.
― Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 17:38 (sixteen years ago) link
Don't forget them when they're gone
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 17:39 (sixteen years ago) link
My heart would break.
― Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 17:42 (sixteen years ago) link
the four bands/peoples playing old album material have all put out new material recently. i would love to hear tortoise play 'djed' live
― 6335, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 17:45 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.lizardtree.com/images/0701/hippyfireworks.jpg
i would love to hear tortoise play 'djed' live
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 17:57 (sixteen years ago) link
:P
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 17:58 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah big fuckin' deal if ppl wanna see some bands do some records they like.
i dunno, this idea that these fuckin' festivals are so goddamned important and need to show us the blinding crazy future of music seems stupider and more pernicious than nostalgia. nostalgia revolves around trying to have fun and enjoy something. handicapping festival lineups and shit and saying that some dumb rock show isn't doing it's TERRIBLY CRUCIAL JOB OF ESTABLISHING WHAT IS AND ISN'T THIS FICTIONAL IDEA OF THE VANGUARD seems more boring to me than anything.
dudes will probably go and have fun. if i were in the area or had more $$ i'd totally think about going. drink some overpriced beer and see some bands. i had a hella good time seeing joan jett at ribfest one year. i'd probably get crunk seeing built to spill do their best album if after a couple of MGDs.
― M@tt He1ges0n, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 17:59 (sixteen years ago) link
grilling brats during MBV's reunion would be a pretty crewsh idea too.
― M@tt He1ges0n, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 18:00 (sixteen years ago) link
izzat that you, whiney? you look excited
― 6335, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 18:19 (sixteen years ago) link
lol izzat that
i dunno, this idea that these fuckin' festivals are so goddamned important and need to show us the blinding crazy future of music seems stupider and more pernicious than nostalgia.
I don't want to argue this too much because I see your point, but the lineup for this really seems like the equivalent of a festival that features nothing but acts like Whitesnake, Poison, Steelheart, Cinderella and Dokken. Anything wrong with it? Probably not. Are we in danger of becoming our parents waving our fists in the air complaining about how much better music was in the 90s? Maybe.
― Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 18:21 (sixteen years ago) link
Just to be clear: I'm not accusing anyone here of being that person waving their fists in the air, because I know ILX folks seem generally pretty engaged in what's going on today as well as what's happened in the past. But this lineup really seems calculated to appeal to a new generation of codgers.
― Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 18:25 (sixteen years ago) link
But every musical subculture with any sort of longevity turns into a codger-producing factory -- either the standard bearers become hyper-vocal sticks in the mud, or the historians / canonizers beat the same old drum, or those that come later & sift through the rubble hold up their placards & dig in their heels.
― David R., Wednesday, 23 April 2008 18:30 (sixteen years ago) link
OMG YOU'RE ONE OF *THEM*!!!
― Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 18:33 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.filminamerica.com/Movies/InvasionOfTheBodySnatchers1978/invasion23.jpg
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 18:36 (sixteen years ago) link
Only by expelling the intruder can we properly enjoy Fuck Buttons oh wait.