Classic or Dud: U2

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nice, I just saw Negativland a couple of weeks ago and was wondering what their take on this was

sleeve, Saturday, 13 September 2014 03:02 (ten years ago) link

http://itunes.com/soi-remove

Barry Gordy (Neil S), Monday, 15 September 2014 20:09 (ten years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/1rpF20H.png

Allen (etaeoe), Monday, 15 September 2014 20:16 (ten years ago) link

more like poo poo

ienjoyhotdogs, Monday, 15 September 2014 20:30 (ten years ago) link

It should be noted that they are practically at the Bridges To Babylon point in their career.

― You and Dad's Army? (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, September 11, 2014 3:15 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

In purely chronological terms, they're pretty much exactly at that point.

Bono's as old as Mick was when Bridges to Babylon came out.

he's aging better.

piscesx, Monday, 15 September 2014 20:46 (ten years ago) link

Would love to see U2 enter a neon "Let's Work" period.

the man with the black wigs (Eazy), Monday, 15 September 2014 20:55 (ten years ago) link

Fricke's review is the beginning of U2's Doodoo Lounge period:
http://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/doodoo-lounge/Content?oid=885084

as this state of affairs continues, reviewers will be forced to make finer and finer distinctions to keep describing records as better than the last one but not as good as Some Girls. Mathematically, this recurring loop can be demonstrated thusly, where Some Girls is given a value of 1, its successor, Emotional Rescue, is arbitrarily assigned half that value, and each succeeding album is assigned half the value of its predecessor plus the total of all the fractions before it:

1/2 + 1/4 + 1/8 + 1/16 + 1/32 .

While this progression is theoretically infinite, it may eventually strain the bounds of human journalism. It's possible reviewers will eventually agree that some future Stones album is better than Some Girls, and then compare it to the previous watershed, probably Exile on Main St. (As the quotations below demonstrate, this process may have already begun.) Exile will hold for a while, and then even earlier benchmarks (Beggar's Banquet, Aftermath) will be cited and then breeched. Finally, inevitably, England's Newest Hit Makers, the Stones' U.S. debut, will rise and ultimately fall in the face of their extraordinary continuing artistic growth. All of which can only mean one thing: the band's best work is ahead of them.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 15 September 2014 22:10 (ten years ago) link

I feel like Eno should devise a series of Oblique Strategies exclusively for U2:

235. "Losing Your Edge"
14. Record in a room filled with money. Then record the sound of just the money. Then delete that recording and burn the money. Then record that.
72. Replace Larry with a machine. Then replace Adam and the Edge with a machine, too. Then replace Bono with a machine, but bring back the real Larry, Edge and Adam.
875. Cut your hair like Macklemore.
65. Wrap it in foil, stick it in the microwave, see what happens.
8777. Record an album in a week.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 00:05 (ten years ago) link

I feel like we can replace Eno with an Oblique Strategy.

guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 00:12 (ten years ago) link

Not really bothered about reading his U2 review or even listening to the album, but I'm just wondering... does David Fricke still have that haircut that makes his head look like the shape of the helmet of a penis?

Welcome To (Turrican), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 00:24 (ten years ago) link

Would be funny if one of the rhythm section decided to do a Bill Berry at this point. Maybe funnier if they actually carried on

Master of Treacle, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 00:25 (ten years ago) link

Xpost at least as of a Robyn Hitchcock concert in manhattan a few years back, yes he does still have that haircut

Rand McNulty (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 00:35 (ten years ago) link

Fricke looks like a cross between Johnny Ramone and Skeletor.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 00:44 (ten years ago) link

http://www.programmingthenation.com/production_stills/David_Fricke.jpg
"Five stars. You're welcome."

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 00:47 (ten years ago) link

(To be fair, he always seems like a nice guy, and he's one of the few older critics who still goes out to shows all the time.)

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 00:48 (ten years ago) link

Greates Marky Ramone tribute act ever

Master of Treacle, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 00:59 (ten years ago) link

I dunno. Could also read that as the Greatest Tom Scholz tribute act ever.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 04:36 (ten years ago) link

Would be funny if one of the rhythm section decided to do a Bill Berry at this point. Maybe funnier if they actually carried on

― Master of Treacle, Tuesday, September 16, 2014 12:25 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I think U2 could quite comfortably carry on if Adam Clayton left. Maybe less so if Larry Mullen left.

Welcome To (Turrican), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 09:01 (ten years ago) link

I think at this point they could carry on if they all left.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 13:33 (ten years ago) link

"Ladies and Gentlemen, HoloBono and the U2s!"

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 13:42 (ten years ago) link

We are all U2, that is why they are called U2.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 13:48 (ten years ago) link

this is not "No Line on the Horizon" by U2

Indeed!

Mark G, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 15:20 (ten years ago) link

Anyway, I won't have to deal with this until I get a new laptop
― Dominique, Thursday, September 11, 2014 5:46 PM (5 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^i really love this, the new U2 album as something you're gonna have to man up and face someday, like death and taxes

u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 18:43 (ten years ago) link

I thought I'd lost my mind during the 'ba ba barbara, santa barbara' part

Bitterer than Bitter (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 19:26 (ten years ago) link

does this album sound weird, or do iTunes files just sound bad?

Bitterer than Bitter (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 19:41 (ten years ago) link

so when I download the latest version of itunes this is gonna be in my library?

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 19:49 (ten years ago) link

if you download it before Oct 13, yeah. I think so.

Bitterer than Bitter (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 19:52 (ten years ago) link

dud

💻 👀 (am0n), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 19:53 (ten years ago) link

ughhh it's on my ipod touch

marcos, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 19:55 (ten years ago) link

Nelson Muntz should have been on the cover of this album, basically

Bitterer than Bitter (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 19:56 (ten years ago) link

You can miss it if you have automatic downloads turned off in iTunes, I think.

Malibu Stasi (WilliamC), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 19:58 (ten years ago) link

yeah I don't have that turned on (why would I want anything automatically from iTunes)

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 20:00 (ten years ago) link

oh wait, there is a little cloud icon with an arrow, so i think it's in my library but i have to download it to get it? anyways this is so fucking stupid

marcos, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 20:01 (ten years ago) link

It's on my wife's iPhone, she's never plugged it in to iTunes or ever synced it. It just appeared on her phone.

nate woolls, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 20:01 (ten years ago) link

the album is now part of your default consciousness, and you only need to remember that you've heard it

Bitterer than Bitter (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 20:04 (ten years ago) link

My new perspective on this is that U2 is the perfect musical equivalent of Apple, so if you own an Apple product and use iTunes, you deserve to have a new U2 forced on you and are not allowed to complain about it.

Immediate Follower (NA), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 20:08 (ten years ago) link

complaining was cool last week. this week, it's cool to listen to the whole album and enjoy it.

Bitterer than Bitter (Sufjan Grafton), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 20:13 (ten years ago) link

it sounds like it was recorded in a glass bottle, it's so airless/dead sounding

difficult-difficult lemon-difficult (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 20:32 (ten years ago) link

complaining was cool last week. this week, it's cool to listen to the whole album and enjoy it.

That, my friend, will never be cool.

OutdoorFish, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 20:57 (ten years ago) link

They should have given out Zooropa for free to help the global audience to one last chance to rediscover this gem and thus correct one of the great misjudgements in the history of human art.

the european nikon is here (grauschleier), Tuesday, 16 September 2014 20:59 (ten years ago) link

http://www.whoisu2.com

piscesx, Tuesday, 16 September 2014 22:46 (ten years ago) link

They should have given out Zooropa for free to help the global audience to one last chance to rediscover this gem and thus correct one of the great misjudgements in the history of human art.

OTFM. It's amazing how many people I know (c. pre-nu-U2) like "everything but 'Zooropa," or got off the boat with "Zooropa." "Zooropa" is amazing. Even "Pop" is mostly good. I think what really bristles about this latest marketing gambit is that U2 is finally so rich and so powerful - which really didn't happen til the post nu-U2 era - that they can do whatever they want, and what they choose is ... whatever it takes to get more.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 00:16 (ten years ago) link

As a friend noted:

in the book 'U2 by U2', Bono says of The Unforgettable Fire, the band’s fourth album, “all we had to do was to keep doing what we were doing and we would have become the biggest band since Led Zeppelin.” And though Bono said they were “reapplying for the job of the best band in the world” in 2000 they have often substituted “biggest” for “best.”

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 00:23 (ten years ago) link

Didn't realise Morten Harket was into U2 then. Subtle A-ha influence?

Master of Treacle, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 01:00 (ten years ago) link

from the Torygraph

The Irish band’s 19-album back catalogue sold 6,744 copies in the last week ...based on data from then Official Charts Company. That compares with 697 sales the previous week. Almost all of the extra sales were digital downloads, with fewer than 60 U2 albums sold on the high street.

piscesx, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 01:26 (ten years ago) link

well there is the beautiful day / sun always shines on tv thing so... xp

john wahey (NickB), Wednesday, 17 September 2014 04:50 (ten years ago) link

nobody that likes their own music would behave in such a way

OutdoorFish, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 06:27 (ten years ago) link


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