pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

Damn why you gotta call lex out

timing of this list in pretty bad taste, what with Lauren Bacall's death just last week

200. Father John Misty - Hollywood Forever Cemetery Sings
199. Lindstrom & Christabelle - Lovesick
198. Migos - Versace
197. Purity Ring - Fineshrine
196. The Men - Bataille
195. Rihanna - Only Girl (In the World)
194. Blawan - Getting Me Down
193. Jay Electronica - Exhibit C
192. Addison Groove - Footcrab
191. Chvrches - The Mother We Share

190. Ty Segall Band - I Bought My Eyes
189. Best Coast - When I'M With You
188. Rhye - The Fall
187. Florence and the Machine - Shake It Out
186. Skrillex - Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites
185. Bon Iver - Perth
184. Parquet Courts - Stoned and Starving
183. Yo La Tengo - Ohm
182. Kavinsky - Nightcall feat. Lovefoxxx
181. Schoolboy Q - There He Go

180. Kelala - Bank Head
179. AraabMuzik - Streetz Tonight
178. Ty Dolla $ign - Paranoid feat. Joe Moses
177. Mac DeMarco - Passing Out Places
176. Jessie Ware - Running (Disclosure Remix)
175. Jamie xx - Far Nearer
174. Arcade Fire - Reflektor
173. Phosphorescent - Song For Zula
172. Earl Sweatshirt - Earl
171. Janelle Monáe - Tightrope feat. Big Boi

170. Grizzly Bear - Sleeping Ute
169. Taylor Swift - We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together
168. Lil B - Wonton Soup
167. King Krule/Zoo Kid - out Getting Ribs
166. Haim - Falling
165. Majical Cloudz - Childhood's End
164. Fucked Up - Queen of Hearts
163. Young Thug - Danny Glover
162. Big Boi - Shine Blockas feat. Gucci Mane
161. Tame Impala - Solitude is Bliss

160. Jeremih - 773 Love
159. Ab-Soul - The Book of Soul
158. Arcade Fire - Ready to Start
157. Titus Andronicus - A More Perfect Union
156. Disclosure - Help Me Lose My Mind feat. London Grammar
155. Meek Mill - Dreams and Nightmares (Intro)
154. Savages - Husbands
153. Chief Keef - Love Sosa
152. Gorillaz - On Melancholy Hill
151. James Blake - Retrograde

150. Dirty Projectors - Gun Has No Trigger
149. Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti - Only In My Dreams
148. Rick Ross - BMF (Blowin' Money Fast) feat. Styles P
147. Rich Kidz - My Life feat. Waka Flocka Flame
146. Kurt Vile - Jesus Fever
145. Tune-Yards - Powa
144. Miguel - Do You
143. Fiona Apple - Every Single Night
142. Ciara - Ride feat. Ludacris
141. Kreyshawn - Gucci Gucci

140. Jacques Green - Another Girl
139. DJ Khaled - I'm On One feat. Drake, Rick Ross and Lil Wayne
138. Soulja Boy - Zan With That Lean
137. Erykah Badu - Window Seat
136. Gang Gang Dance - Glass Jar
135. Kendrick Lamar - ADHD
134. Jessie Ware - 110%
133. ASAP Rocky - Fuckin' Problems feat. 2 Chainz, Drake and Kendrick Lamar
132. War on Drugs - Under the Pressure
131. Miley Cyrus - We Can't Stop

130. ASAP Ferg - Shabba feat. ASAP Rocky
129. Nicki Minaj - Come on a Cone
128. Sleigh Bells - Rill Rill
127. Fleet Foxes - Helplessness Blues
126. Cloud Nothings - Stay Useless
125. Todd Terje - Snooze 4 Love
124. Frank Ocean - Novacane
123. Future Islands - Seasons (Waiting On You)
122. Beyoncé - 1+1
121. Courtney Barnett - Avant Gardner

120. Janelle Monáe - Cold War
119. Future - Same Damn Time
118. Le1f - Wut
117. Perfect Pussy - I
116. Four Tet - Angel Echoes
115. Chance the Rapper - Juice
114. Blood Orange - You're Not Good Enough feat. Samantha Urbani
113. FKA twigs - Water Me
112. Real Estate - Green Aisles
111. DJ Rashad - I Don't Give a Fuck

110. The National - Bloodbuzz Ohio
109. Earl Sweatshirt - Chum
108. Girls - Vomit
107. Arcade Fire - Afterlife
106. Kendrick Lamar - Backstreet Freestyle
105. James Blake - CMYK
104. Burial - Kindred
103. Killer Mike - Big Beast feat. Bun B, T.I., and Trouble
102. Kurt Vile - Wakin on a Pretty Day
101. Schoolboy Q - Hands on the Wheel feat. ASAP Rocky

100. Andrés - New For U
99. John Maus - Believer
98. Chromatics - Kill For Love
97. Sun Kil Moon - I Watched The Film the Song Remains The Same
96. Danny Brown - 30
95. Chairlift - I Belong in Your Arms
94. Icona Pop - I Love It feat. Charli XCX
93. Caribou - Can't Do Without You
92. Japandroids - Younger Us
91. Sky Ferreira - I Blame Myself

90. Tame Impala - Apocalypse Dreams
89. Crystal Castles - Celestica
88. Vampire Weekend - Step
87. Bill Callahan - Small Plane
86. The Weeknd - The Morning
85. Jai Paul - BTSTU (Edit)
84. Burial - Street Halo
83. Drake - Started from the Bottom
82. LCD Soundsystem - All I Want
81. TNGHT - Higher Ground

80. Lana Del Rey - Video Games
79. Blawan - Why They Hide Their Bodies Under My Garage
78. The Knife - Full of Fire
77. Destroyer - Chinatown
76. Kanye West - Blood on the Leaves
75. Beach House - Myth
74. Grimes - Genesis
73. Big Boi - Shutterbugg
72. Nicki Minaj - Beez in the Trap feat. 2 Chainz
71. Fiona Apple - Werewolf

70. James Blake - Limit To Your Love
69. St. Vincent - Cruel
68. Chief Keef - I Don't Like feat. Lil Reese
67. War on Drugs - Red Eyes
66. Lorde - Royals
65. Caribou - Odessa
64. FKA twigs - Two Weeks
63. Girl Unit - Wut
62. Joanna Newsom - Good Intentions Paving Company
61. ASAP Rocky - Peso

60. Future - Turn on the Lights
59. Adele - Rolling in the Deep
58. Haim - The Wire
57. Death Grips - I've Seen Footage
56. Sophie - Bipp
55. Carly Rae Jepsen - Call Me Maybe
54. Andy Stott - Numb
53. Tyler, the Creator - Yonkers
52. Deafheaven - Dreamhouse
51. Kanye West - New Slaves

50. EMA - California
49. Drake - Marvins Room
48. Bon Iver - Holocene
47. Rihanna - We Found Love feat. Calvin Harris
46. Frank Ocean - Thinkin Bout You
45. Mac DeMarco - Ode to Viceroy
44. Beyoncé - Drunk in Love feat. Jay-Z
43. Destroyer - Bay of Pigs
42. Cass McCombs - County Line
41. Waka Flocka Flame - Hard in Da Paint

40. The-Dream - Yamaha
39. Ciara - Body Party
38. Bat For Lashes - Laura
37. Deerhunter - Desire Lines
36. Jay-Z & Kanye West - Niggas in Paris
35. Katy Perry - Teenage Dream
34. Crystal Castles - Not In Love feat. Robert Smith
33. Miguel - Adorn
32. Jai Paul - Jasmine (Demo)
31. Kendrick Lamar - Swimming Pools (Drank)

30. Autre Ne Veut - Play by Play
29. Robyn - Call Your Girlfriend
28. Japandroids - The House That Heaven Built
27. MIA - Bad Girls
26. Vampire Weekend - Hannah Hunt
25. Disclosure - Latch feat. Sam Smith
24. Drake - Worst Behavior
23. Solange - Losing You
22. Arcade Fire - Sprawl II (Mountains Beyond Mountains)
21. Real Estate - It's Real

20. Daft Punk - Get Lucky feat. Pharrell
19. Beach House - Zebra
18. Kanye West - Monster feat. Justin Vernon, Rick Ross, Jay-Z and Nicki Minaj
17. LCD Soundsystem - Dance Yrself Clean
16. Todd Terje - Inspector Norse
15. Nicki Minaj - Super Bass feat. Ester Dean
14. Sky Ferreira - Everything is Embarrassing
13. Usher - Climax
12. Beyoncé - Countdown
11. Tame Impala - Feel Like We Only Go Backwards

10. Drake - Hold On We're Going Home
09. Deerhunter - Helicopter
08. Frank Ocean - Pyramids
07. Azealia Banks - 212 feat. Lazy Jay
06. Robyn - Dancing On My Own
05. Kendrick Lamar - Bitch, Don't Kill My Vibe
04. M83 - Midnight City
03. Kanye West - Runaway feat. Pusha T
02. Ariel Pink's Haunted Graffiti - Round and Round
01. Grimes - Oblivion

the beauty of 'so far' is, when in the decade would it NOT work, except the actual end

they should set up a sub-site that just always says what the best tracks so far are

of all years and all decades

through all history

so far

"Runaway" is still a shitty song

when are we as a nation going to rise up and stop encouraging ariel pink

I'm still amazed "Pyramids" ranks so high, especially when "Thinking About You" exists.

japandroids, the band too boring to be emo

what a horrible top 10. EXCEPT AZEALIA BANKS!!!!!

I genuinely thought the collective delusion that MBDTF is good would have disappeared by now

i never feel more alien than when explaining to people that i think "runaway" is the worst kanye west single

I swear p4k never even justify why they like it - they only ever seem to go on about kanye's celebrity and what it represents for our time xp

when are we as a nation going to rise up and stop encouraging ariel pink

― maura, Monday, August 18, 2014 10:51 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

dude has made some great music, isn't the first time a total asshole made good music

The Kids still love MBDTF; it's like asking them why they love American Gangster.

no one on earth would say that american gangster is the best movie of all time

dude has made some great music, isn't the first time a total asshole made good music

Asshole or not is not the point. The problem with the Ariel Pinks and War on Drugs to my ears is how their professed admiration for seventies studio rock clashes with their bedsit sensibilities.

to be clear I meant the album not the movie

Sudden visions of MBDTF as the Kid A of the '10s.

MBDTF is 100% the kid a of the '10s

alfred otm

Actual top 3 are:

Sun Kil Moon: Alesund
Cass McCombs: County Line
Glenn Jones - Bergen County Farewell

I do love "County Line."

It's true that many of these blurbs are well written.

hands up everyone who saw "Gucci Gucci", lolled, and them immediately scrolled down to confirm that deej was the person writing about it

i don't care that ap is an asshole, i care that he resides too far up his own to make anything listenable

when i talk to (young) ppl about why they think mbdtf is so good the response is basically always: the production is incredible and it transcends regular rap b/c bon iver elton john and the orchestra etc. then i scream.

hands up everyone who saw "Gucci Gucci", lolled, and them immediately scrolled down to confirm that deej was the person writing about it

yeah i was like "it's like a miniature ilx thread"

but Late Registration had Jon Brion and Adam Levine! Graduation had Chris Martin!

xpost

my GTFO moment was seeing "Blood on the Leaves"

Looking at this list you do get the sense that, if you overlook the fact they're more amenable to hip-hop and R&B and some dance music than they used to be, Pitchfork have basically been repping almost exactly the same broad aesthetic for the best part of 15 years. Seeing Yo La Tengo and Bill Callaghan and Ariel Pink and whoever in there alongside Bon Iver and the Arcade Fire does make me yearn for the days of build-them-up-knock-them-down.

Nothing makes less sense to me than the inclusion of two (!) Jai Paul tracks.

Like there's loads of good stuff in here but you still get the sense that the comfort zone is still basically The Soft Bulletin and Yankee Hotel Foxtrot.

a jai paul demo placing above "adorn" even

i'm glad yeezus exists because MBDTF really made talking about kanye insufferable for a minute there, i mean the idea that "monster" is better than "mercy" for instance........

It's pretty hilarious how much of a reputation Jai Paul has managed to build by not releasing music. The guy is some kind of genius

but Late Registration had Jon Brion and Adam Levine! Graduation had Chris Martin!

25 year olds who rate MBDTF as the best kanye album make me want to rip my hair out but i'm not sure you can really blame 18 or 20 year olds for connecting more w/ that album than one that came out in 2005

man, "midnight city" could still use an actual chorus

It's pretty hilarious how much of a reputation Jai Paul has managed to build by not releasing music. The guy is some kind of genius

Should have stuck Joe Lean and the Jing Jang Jong in there for the same reason.

Like there's loads of good stuff in here but you still get the sense that the comfort zone is still basically The Soft Bulletin and Yankee Hotel Foxtrot.

more that stuff outside the comfort zone is entirely dependent on non-musical image, sense of importance, positioning and so on, to the extent of being even more wholly predictable

matt dc, really? Indie rock (depending how inclusive you want to be with that term) is outnumbered by at least 3-to-1 in the top 20.

It's pretty hilarious how much of a reputation Jai Paul has managed to build by not releasing music. The guy is some kind of genius

~MYSTIQUE

matt dc, really? Indie rock (depending how inclusive you want to be with that term) is outnumbered by at least 3-to-1 in the top 20.

― skip, Monday, August 18, 2014 11:25 AM (13 seconds ago) Bookmark

i actually think it's bent back the other way a bit. go back and look at the top 20 of the 00-04 list

feels like we only go backwards

matt dc, really? Indie rock (depending how inclusive you want to be with that term) is outnumbered by at least 3-to-1 in the top 20.

It was more an observation at how little their idea of indie rock has moved on in that time really. I know Pitchfork helped popularise this particular aesthetic so it makes sense they'd hang onto it but you could zap a lot of those bands back in time to 2000 and very few of them would seem anachronistic.

good point J0rdan - the only rock tracks in that one were Maps, Fell in Love with a Girl and Pyramid Song.

but also pop from 10-14 is much worse than pop from 00-04 so it's sort of a chicken & egg thing

there is definitely a divide between their rankings of tracks vs albums - much more rock in the album list.

it depends on where you look

(ctrl-f "paramore," cough)

(that was an xpost to jordan about pop not being good, because it certainly is more interesting than a lot of what's happening in indie right now, but you have to look in places that don't seem to be explored by the makers of this list)

anyway MAKE YR OWN CANON

It always makes me scratch my head when I hear some people say things like "before MBDTF, Kanye was just a pop artist that nobody took seriously", as if they were unaware of all the acclaim his first few albums got.

(that was an xpost to jordan about pop not being good, because it certainly is more interesting than a lot of what's happening in indie right now, but you have to look in places that don't seem to be explored by the makers of this list)

― maura, Monday, August 18, 2014 11:32 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah i know i'm getting into super dicey territory here. i'm just making the broad point that there is no outkast or missy or "ignition (remix)" of the 10s imo. (well i guess it's MBDTF which -_-)