Best Song on "Loveless"

I like the version of "Soon" off the Glider EP more than the Loveless version, it has a better intro.

blown a wish holla

whoever said sometimes was the worst should be in jail

i would rather go to jail than ever listen to that pathetic, dying alley cat croak of a song again.

;-D

There is no "worst" song on this record. Those who think otherwise oppose freedom. :)

Soon does sound tacked on. I mean I love the song, it is sexy to dance to, but it wasnt part of the album conceptually was it?

It is very much part of the album conceptually. It's what the entire album has been building towards - a more conventional song-sound that makes you question the impulse of all that's come before. And MBV are questioning it too. The very end of the track is about itself, is about hearing "Soon." "Soon" is where we try to determine the worth of Loveless.

P.S. I had no clue the "Soon" on Glider was different. YSI?

at 0:42 just after he sings "once in a while" (i think he says "then" at that exact point) there is a fault on it. it sounds like the noise of a crinkled tape. is it my mp3 or is it a flaw in the production?

Prolly your mp3. Just played it on the CD and I don't hear it.

How is the very end of "Soon" about hearing "Soon"?

Yeah I cant parse that I'm afraid.

Because it sounds as if the song is starting over but in another version, a demo maybe, or heard from another room. As Ned Raggett says, "It always felt like a song that's endlessly playing somewhere out there, and we just got a fragment that crashed out of the sky, just a taste, no more." But then we're forced to ask: why this fragment? Why this version? So I should amend what I said above to read: it makes you question IF this is what the album has been building towards all along.

And then it throws you back onto the rest Loveless with similar questions. Is this a fragment too? Why this version? And, most significantly, what else is there? Because in a sense, that's what we've been asking since 1991. Perhaps we were doomed to never hear another My Bloody Valentine album.

Oh, I see what part you mean now. That little hiccup of loops at the end.

It's just that "Soon" is one of the few songs on Loveless that isn't timeless. You could play it for someone who had never heard MBV, ask them to guess the release date, and I'm sure most people would get pretty close. It screams out 1991.

It came out in 1990, about 18 months before Loveless.

"Soon" isn't timeless?
I say nar.

Maybe this is the place to say it: I never really understood Loveless at all. I've tried it dozens of times and it never worked for me. (Also: I don't get Pavement. :(

fair do. pavement are rubbish.

I'd vote for something off the 'Tremolo' EP if I could.

you can. to here knows when was the lead track on that. vote for it. everyone else has.

I'd probably go with 'Swallow'

I heart I Only Said. That riff/loop is ambient Rembrant.

curse you all. i'm relistening now when i should be making my bloody podcast.

What you want. What I want? Is it? Yes.

Alright, I'm gonna go with "When You Sleep"

"loomer"!

at last, someone agrees with me!

I think I'm gonna say "Blown A Wish." Maybe. Arrrrgh now I'm thinking "When You Sleep."

"Sometimes", and not least b/c of its astonishing role in Lost In Translation.

OK I ended up going for "What you Want" (just pipped "When you Sleep") because there's something about the way Kevin sings it that tugs my heartstrings and makes me feel really awesome.

no ned on this thread no credibility! it's almost spooky...

I wound up voting for "Blown A Wish." The "I'll turn it in with you" part wins me over.

While I love the way "Only Shallow" kicks off the album, and "Soon" closes it....I went with "I Only Said". It was hard to pick ("Loomer" was another contender), but I love that lilting guitar riff that floats through "I Only Said".

To Here Knows When is one of my favourite things ever, and I'm not a massive MBV enthusiast either.

So, that.

"to here knows when" is just a tiny bit more transcendent than the rest, so that

What You Want was first impulse, and I went with it.

I said Blown A Wish, but it could just as easily been I Only Said.

It's interesting that this thread came up now, as I've just been talking a bunch about how I love shoegaze, but never really "got" Loveless. It seems like MBV are most people's shoegaze band. Well, Ride is mine. I don't know, maybe I need to give it yet another listen.

Johnny OTM. "I Only Said" is the one.

Ride is mine as well, but MBV are pretty good. In the great shoegaze debate, they're probably just behind Slowdive, and just ahead of Catherine Wheel in my estimation.

I've always said "Soon," but on certain days, "Sometimes" sounds like the most glorious song ever recorded. Today is one of those days.

"Soon" if only because I keep waiting for some hip-hop artist to sample it.

I feel like there's some riffs on loveless that are wrong.. like a little bit too high or too low pitched for what else is playing

Also some of the super obvious mixing board stuff on this album is really crap.

it sounds pretty though

bump: results 'soon'

I like Sometimes a lot.

here 'tis, y'all.

see, touched IS the worst song, disappointing result for loomer tho ;_;

Interesting.

I know you'd rate 'Soon' tops, Ned, but where would 'Loomer' be? And where would 'I Only Said' be?

(both are far too low here IMHO)

I know you'd rate 'Soon' tops, Ned

I didn't vote and I am not making a choice.