― lukey (Lukey G), Friday, 2 April 2004 10:26 (twenty years ago) link
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Friday, 2 April 2004 10:36 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 2 April 2004 14:26 (twenty years ago) link
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― John 2, Saturday, 3 April 2004 03:31 (twenty years ago) link
Now, "Into The Night" by that guy whatsisname...THERE was a goddam song. "She's just 15 years old..." is still the best way to start a song as far as I'm concerned.
― roger adultery (roger adultery), Saturday, 3 April 2004 03:53 (twenty years ago) link
I dislike Richard Marx but this song was awesome. and I was only a kid when it came out so I barely knew what it was about.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hazard_(song (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hazard_%28song)) was an interesting read to learn the backstory. this inspired me to buy the album off of Amazon cuz it was like less than 3 bucks.
so...WHO KILLED MARY?
― funky brewster (San Te), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 13:17 (thirteen years ago) link
Got an average score of 5.44 in the Spring '92 issue of Radio On, placing it at #31 out of 40 pop songs in that issue. (#1 was Kym Sims's "Too Bling To See It," 7.24; #6 the KLF featuring Tammy Wynette's "Justified And Ancient," 7.00; #7 Right Said Fred's "I'm Too Sexy," 6.92; #18 Nirvana's "Smells Like Teen Spirit," 6.15; #40 Eric Clapton's "Tears In Heaven," 3.96.)
In the comments section, people compared it to Springsteen's Nebraska and "The River," Toto's "Stranger In Town," Gerry Rafferty's "Baker Street," and George Michael's "Hand To Mouth."
I gave it a 9.0, and voted for it on my Pazz & Jop singles list later that year. (May or may not have been its only vote.) Here's my review, which I may or may not still agree with: "Not only better than 'Endless Summer Nights,' but better than 'Knoxville Girl' by the Louvin Brothers, which it reads like, and better than anything on Nebraska, which is where the howl at the end comes from. (From 'State Trooper,' to be exact, I think, and Bruce stole it from 'Frankie Teardrop' by Suicide.) The production is stained-glass, a better rock approximation of French Freedberg-rock chicks Mylene Farmer and Jeanne Mas than U2 (or just about anybody else) has managed. And the video is a real movie -- River's Edge, to be exact. I love it when Rich gets his hair cut at the end. (I won't say it's better than 'Ode To Billie Joe,' but I kind of want to.)"
― xhuxk, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 14:15 (thirteen years ago) link
WHO KILLED MARY?
Ben Stiller's later career showed a darkening of theme and performance
― k¸ (darraghmac), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 16:17 (thirteen years ago) link
hahaha
― funky brewster (San Te), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 16:24 (thirteen years ago) link
I don't love this song, but I admit it was a shock at the time, considering its source (and I liked "Should've Known Better" and "Don't Mean Nothin'").
― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 18:12 (thirteen years ago) link
weird, i was just thinking about this song two days ago. couldn't bring myself to openly like it a the time either - just too tainted by the rest of his career, but it did make me secretly go... "huh".
― Kim, Tuesday, 7 September 2010 18:45 (thirteen years ago) link
Relistening to it now, the production has all kinds of dissonant touches: that humming synth in the first few bars, the way the chorus never resolves.
― Gucci Mane hermeneuticist (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 September 2010 18:47 (thirteen years ago) link
Got an average score of 5.44 in the Spring '92 issue of Radio On, placing it at #31 out of 40 pop songs in that issue. (#1 was Kym Sims's "Too Bling To See It," 7.24; #6 the KLF featuring Tammy Wynette's "Justified And Ancient," 7.00; #7 Right Said Fred's "I'm Too Sexy," 6.92; #18 Nirvana's "Smells Like Teen Spirit," 6.15; #40 Eric Clapton's "Tears In Heaven," 3.96.)In the comments section, people compared it to Springsteen's Nebraska and "The River," Toto's "Stranger In Town," Gerry Rafferty's "Baker Street," and George Michael's "Hand To Mouth."I gave it a 9.0, and voted for it on my Pazz & Jop singles list later that year. (May or may not have been its only vote.) Here's my review, which I may or may not still agree with: "Not only better than 'Endless Summer Nights,' but better than 'Knoxville Girl' by the Louvin Brothers, which it reads like, and better than anything on Nebraska, which is where the howl at the end comes from. (From 'State Trooper,' to be exact, I think, and Bruce stole it from 'Frankie Teardrop' by Suicide.) The production is stained-glass, a better rock approximation of French Freedberg-rock chicks Mylene Farmer and Jeanne Mas than U2 (or just about anybody else) has managed. And the video is a real movie -- River's Edge, to be exact. I love it when Rich gets his hair cut at the end. (I won't say it's better than 'Ode To Billie Joe,' but I kind of want to.)"
so glad this dude isn't around here any more. what a bore.
― wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 6 May 2016 20:03 (eight years ago) link
well, actually some of what he says there is smart. but i hate his writing style.
― wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 6 May 2016 20:04 (eight years ago) link
i now regret saying any of this. sorry guys.
http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/blogs/xx_factor/2014/TheAssault.jpg/_jcr_content/renditions/cq5dam.web.1280.1280.jpeg
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 May 2016 20:07 (eight years ago) link
this is a great song
― the unbearable jimmy smits (jim in glasgow), Friday, 6 May 2016 20:26 (eight years ago) link
it is a great song! or at least a very good one.
― wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 6 May 2016 20:27 (eight years ago) link
I haven't actually heard this song since roughly 1992 or whenever it was out, but I still remember exactly how the song goes. Weird. I remember this getting a lot of airplay at the time.
― But... could you imagine a formation in your lemonade? Ho! (Turrican), Friday, 6 May 2016 20:35 (eight years ago) link
I thought the single before this one, "Keep Comin' Back," was good too: an acoustic R&B strummer in the vein of Bill Withers (and with backing vocals by future collaborator Luther Vandross). Too long but pretty
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 May 2016 20:40 (eight years ago) link
if you’re richard marx, it’s a bad idea to have luther vandross sing backup on your songs, since he just shows up marx’s limited instrument
― wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 6 May 2016 20:52 (eight years ago) link
Producer Marx keeps Luther at a discreet distance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09TPa8dKV0s
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 May 2016 20:54 (eight years ago) link
turns out it's electric not acoustic.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 May 2016 20:55 (eight years ago) link
he waits a long time before luther drops in, but when he does, marx's voice suddenly sounds harsh and unsubtle
― wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 6 May 2016 20:58 (eight years ago) link
marx has some good stories about luther, including that a room in luther's house had *cashmere* wallpaper & luther told marx NOT to touch it
― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 7 May 2016 04:41 (eight years ago) link
Still enjoy this song. If i wanted to create a "dark pop" playlist for similar songs what would i add (excluding those tunes already compared to it up thread)
― Neanderthal, Friday, 26 August 2016 17:29 (seven years ago) link
I somehow never saw the climactic version of this video. The suggestion all along had obviously been that Marx's character was innocent, but for all I know the finale might've been nothing more than the shaky camcorder footage some passing kid shot of Marx drowning Mary in the river.
― An Automatic Response To Things That Are Bullshit (Old Lunch), Friday, 26 August 2016 17:41 (seven years ago) link
That melancholic lack of closure is on par with having missed out on the fifth and final Gremlins book and record set from Hardees. How will I ever know how the story (adapted from a movie I've seen thirty times) ends?
― An Automatic Response To Things That Are Bullshit (Old Lunch), Friday, 26 August 2016 17:44 (seven years ago) link
There's a thematically similar song and video from the mid 80s by French Canadian group,The Box, called L'affaire Dumoutier
http://youtu.be/4A3gcDg5M3M
― Manitobiloba (Kim), Monday, 29 August 2016 16:53 (seven years ago) link
This song is hard.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 April 2018 02:09 (six years ago) link
I heard this track playing on the radio in some store I went to while buying lunch recently. First time I'd heard it for decades.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 12 April 2018 16:43 (six years ago) link
I listen to this more than any other Marx song. it rules.
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 April 2018 17:32 (six years ago) link
it is my favorite
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 12 April 2018 19:42 (six years ago) link
Acoustic version of this is even better IMO <rockist>
― well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Thursday, 12 April 2018 19:44 (six years ago) link
― Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 22 April 2018 00:01 (six years ago) link
Acoustic version of this is even better IMO
If it doesn't have that flutey, bubbly synth, I'm out
― Vinnie, Sunday, 22 April 2018 00:23 (six years ago) link
^^ dis
― Cardigan B (King Boy Pato), Sunday, 22 April 2018 00:28 (six years ago) link
The whole Rush Street album is great imo
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 22 April 2018 02:18 (six years ago) link
I still love this song to pieces, but admittedly I like more and more of this dude's pop songs as I get older.
like I will admit to liking or loving
"Shoulda Known Better""Endless Summer Nights""Hazard""Hold Onto the Night""Take This Heart"
fuckin hate most of the rest
"Hazard" was just the kind of dark that my childhood self could get into. with implied, non-explicit violence
― Filibuster Poindexter (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 April 2021 02:29 (three years ago) link
the one I would add to that list (which may fall into your "fuckin hate" category) is "Angelia" - a near perfect version of that style of 80s/90s melancholy guitar ballad
― Vinnie, Thursday, 29 April 2021 02:49 (three years ago) link
I don't know if I know that one!
― Filibuster Poindexter (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 April 2021 02:53 (three years ago) link
ok listening to it now, and I do remember this, but haven't heard it in decades!
this one will go on my 'good' list
― Filibuster Poindexter (Neanderthal), Thursday, 29 April 2021 02:54 (three years ago) link
when I rediscovered it about ten years ago, I also hadn't heard it since the 80s - radio has pretty much forgotten this song in favor of the bigger hits. but it was a #4 single!
― Vinnie, Thursday, 29 April 2021 03:01 (three years ago) link
“Keep Coming Back” (where he is chanelling El DeBarge with backup by Luther Vandross) is great.(so is “Right Here Waiting” of course, but I doubt me saying that is going to soften Neanderthal’s hardened heart)
― Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Thursday, 29 April 2021 05:14 (three years ago) link
The whole Rush Street album is pretty good imo, i like a lot of tracks on that as well as Hazard, like Take This Heart, Love Unemotional, Hands in Your pocket etc - Billy Joel plays piano on I Get No Sleep, Steve lukather & Jeff Porcaro are on a bunch of songs, Terry Bozzio, lots of cool session cats
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 29 April 2021 05:31 (three years ago) link
i am deeply biased tho :)