I'd forgotten about the existence of Lodger. Think I only heard one single of theirs ('I'm Leaving')... didn't care about them at all.
― Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican)
I bought all three Lodger singles but didn't end up getting the album. Still have a soft spot for I'm Leaving but can't remember anything about the other singles.
― Kitchen Person, Sunday, 27 April 2014 04:00 (ten years ago) link
They were no Rialto
― Master of Treacle, Sunday, 27 April 2014 05:02 (ten years ago) link
I think I remember Rialto for being comp to Scott Walker, maybe?
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Sunday, 27 April 2014 05:21 (ten years ago) link
Romo was pretty much just Simon Price, iirc. Although the music was broadly terrible, the reaction to it seemed worse than the original push behind it. The relationship with Britpop was mostly oppositional.
― Yuri Bashment (ShariVari), Sunday, 27 April 2014 06:57 (ten years ago) link
Cinerama did what Rialto attempted to do many miles better
― PaulTMA, Sunday, 27 April 2014 11:15 (ten years ago) link
At around this time, a first anniversary party was held for Club Skinny headlined by Crush, the band of former Byker Grove TV stars Donna Air and Jayni Hoi. However, continued tensions in the scene led to the discontinuation of both Skinny and Arcadia in July 1996. Romo activities continued at the individual bands' concerts (although one Plastic Fantastic concert at Dingwalls from this time ended in a mass brawl after a hat was thrown onstage).[40]
― ۩, Sunday, 27 April 2014 11:37 (ten years ago) link
fuck throwing a hat
― bizarro gazzara, Sunday, 27 April 2014 11:54 (ten years ago) link
27th of April is the Fuck washing a hat day.
― Mark G, Friday, 21 January 2011 12:26 (3 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― bizarro gazzara, Sunday, 27 April 2014 12:08 (ten years ago) link
lol crushsounded like a republica tribute act iirc
― kinder, Sunday, 27 April 2014 12:10 (ten years ago) link
Rialto's thing was having two drummers, and the guy from Kinky Machine
― Master of Treacle, Sunday, 27 April 2014 12:41 (ten years ago) link
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/apr/27/britpop-and-me-looking-back-not-in-anger-eva-wiseman
― ۩, Sunday, 27 April 2014 14:49 (ten years ago) link
Britpop was our moon landing, except janglier. It was our Summer of Love, our Nelson Mandela's presidential years, our fall of the wall.
― ۩, Sunday, 27 April 2014 14:50 (ten years ago) link
The full line is
Britpop was our moon landing, except janglier. It was our Summer of Love, our Nelson Mandela's presidential years, our fall of the wall. It was the awkward suburban girl's Wonderful World of Colour. The never-kissed's big bang.
― ۩, Sunday, 27 April 2014 14:56 (ten years ago) link
Xposts I said that?
― Mark G, Sunday, 27 April 2014 16:25 (ten years ago) link
Last post here: Classics Found: Fuck Washing a Hat
― bizarro gazzara, Sunday, 27 April 2014 19:14 (ten years ago) link
― Master of Treacle
Really liked Rialto at the time. When they got dropped just before the album came out I remember paying £20 for it on Import in HMV. So much money wasted on CD's from that time. Everything Bennet ever released, albums and single by Mover, Joacasta, 18 Wheeler and Ether. Anyone remember Ether? The guy's voice was just ridiculous!
― Kitchen Person, Sunday, 27 April 2014 20:38 (ten years ago) link
http://youtu.be/HmnhsHtqzKk
― Kitchen Person, Sunday, 27 April 2014 20:41 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, I had one of their songs on a compilation, think I ended up in email correspondence with one of them?
― kinder, Sunday, 27 April 2014 20:42 (ten years ago) link
ugh just listened to it and it's horrible
― kinder, Sunday, 27 April 2014 20:43 (ten years ago) link
hated Rialto too
― kinder, Sunday, 27 April 2014 20:45 (ten years ago) link
actually no, I'm confusing them with someone else...
― kinder, Sunday, 27 April 2014 20:46 (ten years ago) link
rofl 18 wheeler
― ۩, Sunday, 27 April 2014 20:46 (ten years ago) link
nothing can be worse thanhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Geh_zrt2Ps
― ۩, Sunday, 27 April 2014 20:47 (ten years ago) link
I was doing work experience at a record shop when the Ether album came out. After a few days the owner said they couldn't pay me but I could have a couple of new CD's instead. The first album I picked was their album (as I'd enjoyed a couple of singles) That is a decision that still haunts me today. Luckily my second choice was Pulp's This is Hardcore.
― Kitchen Person, Sunday, 27 April 2014 20:47 (ten years ago) link
Xposts Thanks, bizarro gazzara.
Nice to see the day is being observed.
― Mark G, Sunday, 27 April 2014 20:47 (ten years ago) link
xp Monaco, that's who I'm confusing Rialto with
― kinder, Sunday, 27 April 2014 20:49 (ten years ago) link
Re catch
I don't recall that totp perf, but he looks exactly as I assumed.
Reminds me of listening to xfm where they played it over and.
Awful.
― Mark G, Sunday, 27 April 2014 20:50 (ten years ago) link
xpost Don't know which is my favourite 18 Wheeler moment. Them being forced to play some Labour event and being introduced by Tony Blair as Wheeler 18 or Alan McGee claiming their last album was going to be the new Screamadelica.
― Kitchen Person, Sunday, 27 April 2014 20:50 (ten years ago) link
The worst of these bands (that will occasionally get stuck in my head) is Ruth. (Sorry to remind everyone of them.)
There used to be a website probably over 10 years ago at this point called "This is Romo" where you could listen to Sexus and Plastic Fantastic and the like. They were all pretty bad, but the DexDexter song was ok. I still love the Orlando record, but I also have Fosca records, so...
I sort of like Rialto and their 2-drummer attempt at sweeping romanticism, but they lyrics were way sub-Suede/Pulp.
― DonkeyTeeth, Sunday, 27 April 2014 22:20 (ten years ago) link
*their lyrics. Ignore the grammatical mess there.
― DonkeyTeeth, Sunday, 27 April 2014 22:21 (ten years ago) link
I'm pretty sure someone once mentioned this band Ruth and i said "Who?" and a video was posted.
But I cant remember. So I'll just say who? (again?)
― ۩, Sunday, 27 April 2014 22:56 (ten years ago) link
Joacasta kind of invented Muse. I bet Tim Arnold is pissed off about that.
Ruth appeared on Blue Peter, performing their song Fear Of Flying. I imagine someday they'll be on a box set with the likes of The Smiles, The Young Offenders and Laxtons Superb. Or perhaps music will have been abolished by then
― PaulTMA, Sunday, 27 April 2014 23:24 (ten years ago) link
And also with The Poppyheads of 'Wake Up America", 'fame'
― PaulTMA, Sunday, 27 April 2014 23:25 (ten years ago) link
Ruth were a very late in the day Britpop act who had one hit single with a track called 'I Don't Know', struggled to follow it up and then got dropped. They then re-named themselves The 45's, got another record deal, couldn't get a hit and got dropped again. Then Matt Hales, their lead singer, became Aqualung (of 'Strange and Beautiful' fame).
― Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Sunday, 27 April 2014 23:25 (ten years ago) link
After that, he started co-writing tracks for Boyzone, Jason Mraz, Paloma Faith etc.
― Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Sunday, 27 April 2014 23:27 (ten years ago) link
Ruth talking about mental health on the National Lottery...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz3IXutwwI8
― Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Sunday, 27 April 2014 23:31 (ten years ago) link
Anyway, fuck Ruth, anyone remember Speedy!?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abIWxxzXxvY
― Toni Braxton-Hicks (Turrican), Sunday, 27 April 2014 23:33 (ten years ago) link
nope
― popchips: the next snapple? (seandalai), Sunday, 27 April 2014 23:36 (ten years ago) link
no
― ۩, Sunday, 27 April 2014 23:43 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i15ALD6fsUU
― you poll a lot, but you're not saying anything (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 27 April 2014 23:50 (ten years ago) link
worst band ive ever seen in my life T In The Park 1995 NME Tent. They were so bad they made me think the next band I saw (Cast) was goodhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er7gZ5j37qA
― ۩, Sunday, 27 April 2014 23:55 (ten years ago) link
Just reading the Taylor Parkes piece on The Quietusatm, I havent finished it and yes its great but these does anyone else feel with a lot of these anti-Britpop that it is getting the blame for things that its not neccesarily its fault? Yes it was bound up in the time, the zeitgeist and it reflected the neo-liberal ethos of the time. but to say that the cover of "parklife" in walthamstow dog track is somewhow indicative of the rise of gentrification is a bit of a stretch. most of these bands were just straight up indie bands who got branded with the tag - frank and walters would have been a britpop band if they werent from cork f'instance
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Monday, 28 April 2014 11:15 (ten years ago) link
actually its a fantastic article! well worth a read
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Monday, 28 April 2014 11:46 (ten years ago) link
http://thequietus.com/articles/15092-blur-parklife-anniversary-review
― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Monday, 28 April 2014 11:47 (ten years ago) link
Self-congratulatory anti-Britpop screeds are now just as annoying and simplistic as rose-tinted Britpop nostalgia imo but the Taylor Parkes one goes so much deeper, bothers to study individual songs rather than make grand generalisations and admits that he was a participant.
― What is wrong with songs? Absolutely nothing. Songs are great. (DL), Monday, 28 April 2014 12:29 (ten years ago) link
My problem with the Taylor Parkes article is that it assumes so much from Britpop, and Blur particularly. There's something almost gleefully revisionistic about these anti-Britpop articles in that many of them don't even get the facts straight in the first place. They blame Britpop for everything that was shit about the '90s - even going so far as to say that it was Britpop which helped the rise of Tony Blair and New Labour, which is complete bollocks since BP was pretty much over by the time he came in. From the outside looking in, it's very easy to say to people of my generation - people who never counted themselves as English, who grew up away from London, who were aware of the Beatles and the Kinks but didn't really listen to Britpop bands because they sounded like the Beatles and the Kinks, who enjoyed bands like Blur, Pulp, the Boo Radleys for their musical diversity, not their conservatism, who also liked American bands and dance music and hip-hop, who only felt 'a part of something' because we happened to be young and liked to go to indie nights and dance and snog each other in our Doc Martens as opposed to because of something Stuart Maconie said on the Evening Session - It's easy to look at the surface-level media-led shit that sprang up around the arse end of Britpop and turn around 20 years later and go 'HAH, see I told you it was all SHIT', when really I think that's rather inaccurate and missing much of the point and I'd more readily side on Eva Wiseman's little piece than Parkes's in-depth and well-written but ultimately unfair drubbing.
― 1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Monday, 28 April 2014 12:45 (ten years ago) link
I thought it was very poorly written. F-word this and F-word that; fine, you can swear as much as the average Gallagher brother. So what? Does that make you better than them? Also, far too discursive and rambling instead of addressing the topic at hand and a competent editor would not have spared their secateurs cutting the piece down. Funny how he has a go at “Girls And Boys” supposedly attacking the working class and as usual gives Pulp the free pass. Not listened to the first song on His N’ Hers recently, then?
Meanwhile, did the death of Diana really “kill” Britpop? If anything spelled out the end it must ARGUABLY have been the advent of the Spice Girls. Look! Colour, fun, humour – everything that Britpop isn’t (any more). No mention of them. Riot Grrl gets one passing, rather disdainful mention. If Elastica did anything he doesn’t mention it. And of all the Britpop loudmouths to alight upon, he decides to have a go at…Louise Wener.
The differential diagnosis would therefore include the possibility that this writer has a problem with women.
Oh, and as far as Blair and Blairism are concerned, the Britpop boom essentially happened under a Conservative government.
― Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Monday, 28 April 2014 13:17 (ten years ago) link
You mean the Iraq War wasn't ignited by Blur's version of 'Lets Go Down the Strand', what are you saying here Marcello?
― 1 pONO 3v3Ry+h1n G!!!1 (dog latin), Monday, 28 April 2014 13:36 (ten years ago) link
Not the Spice Girls, really.
My opinion being: The Spiceys could co-exist with the Britpop quite happily. One alternate 'DOBP' theory was Louise Wener, funnily enough, was in the studio doing her third album and getting a preview of Robbie's "Angels" and realising that the Mainstream could actually do this "Britpop anthem" thing better than Oasis now, so time to pack up and prepare for the taxi home. (I believe the Glitter Band had the same feeling when they saw the Sex Pistols live, back in 1976).
My theory of the end was when Blur produced "Tender", a sure-fire number one, only Britney Spears stopped them with "one more time, baby" and it was like the end of "1066 and all that" : "America was clearly top nation, and Britpop came to a full stop"
Cheers, chief.
― Mark G, Monday, 28 April 2014 13:42 (ten years ago) link
Good theories there. I'm sure Robson and Jerome are thoroughly fed up with having to take all the blame.
― Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Monday, 28 April 2014 13:47 (ten years ago) link