ILX 70s album poll - results

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I thought this was going to place much higher as it led the poll at one point, and was in the top 10 for practically all of it.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Definitely my most loved Stevie Wonder album - good call, team.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:36 (nineteen years ago) link

11

points: 732
1st place votes: 4
total votes: 18

THE ROLLING STONES - EXILE ON MAIN STREET

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If the Rolling Stones had only released Exile on Main
Street, they'd still have a good claim for "World's
Greatest Rock and Roll Band." A double album that
deserves all 4 sides. Xgau says "Weary and
complicated, barely afloat in its own drudgery, it
rocks with extra power and concentration as a result,"
in a remarkably lucid and entirely accurate remark.
An album that sounds good at first listen and
exponentially better on the 10th or the 100th.
Absolutely amazing and essential.

Matt Sab

hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:38 (nineteen years ago) link

10

points: 746
1st place votes: 0
total votes: 19

MARVIN GAYE - WHAT'S GOING ON?

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hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:47 (nineteen years ago) link

that stevie wonder album sounds very seventies, very dated. i purchased it because of one of these best of lists. at least it didn't make the top ten...

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:47 (nineteen years ago) link

agreed about Innervisions.

However, it sounds downright futuristic compared to that half-awful Marvin Gaye album. Oh well.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:49 (nineteen years ago) link

That Bach album sounds very 18th century, very dated, I'm glad it didn't make the top ten...

o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:52 (nineteen years ago) link

hobart paving, if you have it handy, can you post the full results at the end? I'd love to see what was #101 and beyond. Thx.

Keith C (kcraw916), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:53 (nineteen years ago) link

The datedness is what's so awesome about it! I mean, yeah, I'd rather listen to retro synth-funk that than the snoozetastic "timeless" "What's Going On?"

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:55 (nineteen years ago) link

dated in the "probably got a free pass at the time because it sounded nifty but really it's just shitty music" sense.

I mean, yeah, I'd rather listen to retro synth-funk that than the snoozetastic "timeless" "What's Going On?"

well, yeah.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:56 (nineteen years ago) link

The canon be damned; WGO slays me, every time.
-- mike t-diva (mikejl...), June 7th, 2004.

Teenage Fanclub "Grand Prix"/"Songs from Northern Britain"
Scritti Politti "Cupid & Psyche 85"
Comet Gain "Realistes"
Marvin Gaye "What's Going On"
Paul Weller "Paul Weller"
-- Michael White (michaelwhite3...), December 13th, 2002.

(from the "albums that make you indescribably happy" thread)

Marvin Gaye "What's Going On"
I don't think I ever put it on without playing from start to finish

-- webcrack (signon2...), December 17th, 2003.

Marvin Gaye might be the godfather of soul. Extremely pure and spiritual. Almost like someone singing a prayer. A tad annoying. Curtis Mayfield on the other hand is more funky, more urban, more dirty. I prefer his version of soul. And you?
-- alex in mainhattan (alex6...), June 24th, 2004.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:58 (nineteen years ago) link

It's been a while since I heard all of Innervisions, but there's a handful of really great songs on it: "Too High," "Golden Lady," "Don't You Worry Bout a Thing" etc.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:58 (nineteen years ago) link

alex otm about curtis mayfield.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 14:59 (nineteen years ago) link

I like the singles, and "Too High" is pretty good, but the rest...ugh.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:00 (nineteen years ago) link

that stevie wonder album sounds very seventies, very dated. i purchased it because of one of these best of lists. at least it didn't make the top ten...
-- alex in mainhattan (alex6...), April 27th, 2005.

Innervisions has some fantastic tracks on it - personally, "Don't You Worry 'Bout A Thing" is one of my favourite tracks ever. Another one I forgot to nominate for the poll.

There are quite a few I skip, though.

jaymc - my choices too, With living for the city chucked in.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:02 (nineteen years ago) link

x-post
but it's marvin gaye. whereas the album on the whole is not perfect there are some songs (the title song for example) which are not from this world.

bach obviously sounds like the third millenium! innervisions is just dull and annoys me. i don't remember any song on there. the production is totally not my cup of tea.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:02 (nineteen years ago) link

9

points: 758
1st place votes: 0
total votes: 24

BUZZCOCKS - SINGLES GOING STEADY

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hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:04 (nineteen years ago) link

wow, only #9.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:05 (nineteen years ago) link

does that mean that the f*cking clash will beat the buzzcocks? that's quite sad.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Buzzcocks do rule, god fucking dammit, and anyone who speaks derisevely of them will suffer my wrath!
-- Alex in NYC (vassife...), March 23rd, 2003.

I like 'em lots. They should do a cover of Haddaway's "What Is Love?"
What is laaaahhff?!

-- Anthony Miccio (anthonymicci...), March 23rd, 2003.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Yes, yes, but where is all the PROG, dammit?

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:11 (nineteen years ago) link

prog did not survive the millenium...

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:13 (nineteen years ago) link

bach obviously sounds like the third millenium! innervisions is just dull and annoys me. i don't remember any song on there. the production is totally not my cup of tea.

I think that Innervisions sounds great - though it's not Wonder's best, or even in the top three. But it's far from dull. And it doesn't really sound dated - in fact I'd say it sounds a lot less dated than most of the albums on this list. You can turn on the radio and hear lots of contemporary songs (e.g., Alicia Keys) that aren't too far removed from what Wonder was doing on Innervisions, and they are no more nostalgia-driven than something like Franz Ferdinand which sounds like Gang of Four, which is at least as dated as Innervisions.

o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Absolute total, capital "C", Classic
-- Stewart Osborne (stewart.osborn...), August 9th, 2004.


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So classic it hurts. The Sex Pistols or the Saints may have been better bands (debatable), but within the realm of "punk" music there is no finer LP than Singles Going Steady. Who'd have thought that punk could be informed by pop/psychedelia/Krautrock and thrive? I love how "Orgasm Addict" and a few others throw in the occasional weird 7/8 time signature, just so they can hack through a tangled thicket of syllables and arrive at an unforgettable chorus just that much quicker. "Why Can't I Touch It?" could almost pass for a punk version of "Thank You For Talking To Me Africa". As for being a bad influence, maybe; but they were also a GOOD influence on Husker Du, which is alright by me. And Maher was indeed one hell of a drummer. I have a new favourite every time - last time it was "Boredom", next time "I Don't Mind." (Or make that "I Don't Mi-yi-yi-yi-yi-yi-yind"!)
-- Myonga Von Bontee (scottyfield...), August 10th, 2004.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:16 (nineteen years ago) link

8

points: 758
1st place votes: 1
total votes: 22

PiL - METAL BOX

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hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:28 (nineteen years ago) link

You can turn on the radio and hear lots of contemporary songs (e.g., Alicia Keys) that aren't too far removed from what Wonder was doing on Innervisions
that's why i never turn on the radio these days. and i totally agree about all these retro post-punk bands. the world really does not them. but gang of four cannot sound as dated as innervisions as they were after the punk divide. they still sound fresh to me anyways.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:29 (nineteen years ago) link

"Don't You Worry 'Bout A Thing"

I was out eating dinner once a few years back, in a posh new restaurant with a DJ (before the place caught on and became impossibly crowded all the time), and he snuck this song into his set making me hear it as I hadn't for a while. I bought Innversions on CD not long after (not that I didn't already have it on vinyl and cassette). Actually, I don't think it's perfect, but the good material is very very good.

RS_LaRue (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:29 (nineteen years ago) link

the world does not NEED them. sorry.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:29 (nineteen years ago) link

"prog did not survive the millenium..."

2nd edition is a prog album. poptones.

a best of the 70s list without yes, floyd, and zeppelin's just a bit autistic, don't you think?

the ghost of 76, Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:32 (nineteen years ago) link

why isn't the "i" in capitals? Public image Limited?

No. metal box is by no means prog. it is post-prog, come on.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:33 (nineteen years ago) link

a 70s list without pink floyd is definitely not completely describing the 70s. that's true.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:35 (nineteen years ago) link

Well, "Wish You Were Here" is at #65...

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:38 (nineteen years ago) link

i missed that. no love for dark side of the moon? that is the album i'd nominate as the definite 70s album.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:40 (nineteen years ago) link

There's a reason that record's hailed as genius by everyone: most people don't understand it, and those who do say it's genius.
But really, it is genius. Levene's riff on "Poptones" is incredible! It goes around and around and around...forever! And ever! And EVER! And listen to Lydon's lyrics!! They rule!!

Not easy listening, though. But Levene is hardly wanking. He, even more so than Wobble, is the anchor of that band. Thus, the suckage following his departure...

-- Naive Teen Idol (matthewjweine...), January 8th, 2003.

It's proudly displayed (well, displayed) on my bookcase, but I swear it's been well over 10 years since I've played it. I do remember liking it, although isn't it meant to be boring and/or annoying in places? Also it plays at 45 rpm, doesn't it? I remember reading somewhere that it was funny/cool that it was designed so that you couldn't get the records out without scratching them, but of course you can just turn the package upside down and let them fall out (not at a great height, of course).
-- Sean (saturns...), January 8th, 2003.

It's sort've become a post-punk Rosetta Stone of sorts (and I don't mean the lamentable goth band) that is required listening for anyone seeking information about the genre/era, but that doesn't mean it makes for the easiest nor most enjoyable listening experience. I'm glad I own it, I'm glad it exists, it's *INTERESTING* (in much the same way watching a disquieting snuff film or autopsy in interesting), but I'd be fibbing if I said I played it a lot or that it changed my life. I tend to prefer a bit more melodic cohesion in my post-punk, thank you very much, ala Gang of Four, early Killing Joke, Joy Division, et al.
Still...."Poptones" and "Swanlake" are uproariously, gloriously ugly in the most intriguing way.

-- Alex in NYC (vassife...), January 8th, 2003.

Erm...
I changed my mind!* Metal Box is actually quite brilliant. For some reason it clicked for me this time. Lydon sounds like Gollum. Levene sounds like he's scratching your eyes out. Wobble is implacable (I like that word today). The electronics are genuinely strange, alienating in that way that electronics were back then--you know, they sound like they're wheezing from some big gray mainframe that takes up half a room. The drums are just like, heavy, man. It's a big granite slab of sound rolling over you.

I think my problem was that I bought the album after reading the usual rhetoric about it, and then I didn't hear what I expected to hear based on that rhetoric. I still don't, really... but I like what I hear instead now.

* Well actually, I still think the suburbia-is-conformist stuff is cliched (suppose it wasn't at the time tho) and just wrong, Albatross is a dirge, and it really doesn't have much to do with dub. Even the bass isn't dubby--it's just fat and high in the mix. I only hear about one moment where he plays anything like a dub bassline (midway through Graveyard I think), most of the time it's more rock. And OK, they phase the drums every now and then. But dub is a process more than anything else, and they don't apply that process anywhere--there's no abrupt mixing in and out of instruments, no space in the music (the opposite--it's claustrophobic), no echoing....they're still playing songs, not deconstructing them. Not that it matters, but "avant-garde dub" is one of those phrases that gets thrown around a lot in relation to this album.

-- Ben Williams (benwilliam...), January 9th, 2003.

They should've replaced Lydon with Mrs. Miller:

-- hstencil (hstenci...), January 9th, 2003.
Great blog. As for me, what Matos said. Either you feel this music in your bones or you don't. Metal Box says everything is NOT going to be alright. It's mocking, too, as if depression or fear were below it, and it makes me feel detached, grooving, fuck everything. The complete antipathy is also highly moral, which sets it apart from the nihilist pigfuck/no wave/goth it inspired. Like Sandinista!, it's more punk than most punk.
-- Pete Scholtes (pscholte...), January 11th, 2003.

no-one's topped Beefheart at his own game -- except maybe PiL, and then only once (metal box).
-- Tad (llamasfu...), January 20th, 2003.

I heart John Lydon.
-- Mary (maj23...), January 8th, 2003.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:45 (nineteen years ago) link

PiL >> Sex Pistols

it's official!

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:47 (nineteen years ago) link

right, but we don't want to describe the 70s. a bunch of people were asked to list their favorite records of the 70s. obviously they don't seem to like prog much. if you ask me what I like best about the 30s, my answer will be a lot different from the answer you get when you ask me what I think was the most important development in the 30s (rise of the nazis). no I am not comparing Prog and the Nazis. well, maybe a little bit.

egon krenz (slaytrack), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:50 (nineteen years ago) link

7

points: 775
1st place votes: 1
total votes: 25

BLONDIE - PARALLEL LINES

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hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:50 (nineteen years ago) link

a best of the 70s list without yes, floyd, and zeppelin's just a bit autistic, don't you think?

autistic? what?

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Some notes from my craw:

KRAFTWERK - THE MAN MACHINE: Their perfect album. Seemless. Flawless. Not long enough.

THE STOOGES - FUN HOUSE: Amazingly precise in its onslaught.

THE SEX PISTOLS - NEVER MIND THE BOLLOCKS, HERE'S THE SEX PISTOLS: Dan stated above that he gets the feeling that its the ultimate "you had to be there" album. I agree. Its sounds dated to me today, but I doubt if I'd be "into" music like I am now without it.


GANG OF FOUR - ENTERTAINMENT: I never understood the "Punk-Funk" moniker, cuz I didn't hear the "funk". But it did make the dancers dance harder, and the non-dancers shake their legs with more abandon.

BUZZCOCKS - SINGLES GOING STEADY: Many of my ideas about pop music stems from this album. SONGS!

PiL - METAL BOX: Timeless. By that I mean that when I first heard it, it sounded from another time. It still does, but I'm not sure if its the future or the past, or something else.


peepee (peepee), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 15:56 (nineteen years ago) link

I've never heard the Blondie album...is it that good?

p.j. (Henry), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 16:23 (nineteen years ago) link

It's the first lp I ever bought with my own money. It's still one of my all-time favorite records. Gorgeous. Perfect. Classic. Cool fashion sense. Pretty good singer, too.
-- Sean (saturns...), December 2nd, 2002.

Classic with reservations - the last two tracks are weak (Gonna Love You Too + Just Go Away)and it lacks the absolute highs of the two previous albums and Eat to The Beat. My favorites are 11.59, Pretty Baby and Sunday Girl.
There's nothing as good as X Offender, In The Flesh, Rip Her To Shreds, Out In The Streets, Fan Club, Scenery,I'm Always Touched By Your Presence, Dreaming, Union City Blue, or Atomic on there.

-- Dr. C (Daveatcrossdee...), December 2nd, 2002.

reading Please Kill Me, i found it so funny the way that blondie were viewed as the runt of the cbgb's litter, and television used to beat up on them and steal their bassists and stuff, but in the end, it was blondie that had the most long lasting success and widespread appeal. new yorkers are stupid. mwah hah hah.
-- kate (masonicboo...), December 2nd, 2002.
their best record by miles. still holds up pretty damn well to these ears. would be perfect but for the final track ('just go away') but 11 out of 12's a decent strike rate by any measure.
-- angelo (discusdude7...), December 2nd, 2002.


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"i know a girl from a lonely street/cool as ice cream and still as sweet" is the most perfect opening couplets to a pop song ever.
the only thing that bugs me about parallel lines are those ugly green mesh and canvas boots that she's lacing up on the back cover.

debbie, debbie, debbie... it's so unlike you to pick unflattering footwear.

-- Fritz Wollner (fritzwollner5...), December 2nd, 2002.

I listened to this for the first time in, gosh, about 20 years when the remastered CD came out. It sounded way different than I remembered, because all the deadpan chick-fronted guitar-pop bands since Blondie - from the Primitives to Slumber Party - have really spun off from just one aspect of their sound. I was conditioned to hear Parallel Lines that way, but everything was more varied and modulated. Deborah Harry's singing was so demonstrative, it's like she's in a Broadway revue. Each song is a different little character portrait. The drumming was a lot less metronomic than my ears have become accustomed to.
-- Curt (curtisgoul...), December 2nd, 2002.


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slumber party are HARDLY a "chick fronted guitar-pop band" thank you very kindly. grrrrrrr.
one of the things that i always loved most about blondie was their genre-slut style-hopping. blondie albums were like mini-musicals, really. i believe that was quite deliberate.

-- kate (masonicboo...), December 2nd, 2002.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 16:26 (nineteen years ago) link

I'll have to do the top 5 tomorrow as the library kicks out in a minute.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 16:31 (nineteen years ago) link

6

points: 810
1st place votes: 2
total votes: 25

JOY DIVISION - UNKNOWN PLEASURES

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Joy Division -- Unknown Pleasures.

I first heard "Unknown Pleasures" in 1992. It's still
the darkest record I own. The one that demands being
listened to with all the lights off. Even better, in
a cold basement. Curled up in a ball. Listening to
the soothing crackle of the needle on vinyl. Good
times. Lonely, troubling, but good nontheless. On
this album, "Interzone" is what passes for euphoria.
"She's Lost Control" is what passes for
dancefloor-filling mania. "New Dawn Fades" is pain.


"Unknown Pleasures" is therapy.

Barry Bruner

hobart paving (hobart paving), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 16:34 (nineteen years ago) link

From this thread:

C/D: Eight-track alternate sequencing?

(as you'd expect, a few other albums on this list are discussed there too)

BLONDIE -- PARALLEL LINES

1 Hanging On The Telephone
Heart Of Glass
I'm Gonna Love You Too

2 Picture This
Fade Away And Radiate
Pretty Baby

3 I Know But I Don't Know
11:59
Will Anything Happen?

4 One Way Or Another
Sunday Girl
Just Go Away

This is also great! The proper track listing drags a bit in the middle during the "Fade Away and Radiate" ... "Will Anything Happen" section. But the eight-track version puts the Big Hits at the beginning and the end ("Heart Of Glass" works MUCH better at the start than tossed randomly into the middle of side two) and mixes things up a little better in the middle.

-- MindInRewind, October 7th, 2004 5:38 PM.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 16:41 (nineteen years ago) link

I absolutely love 'Just Go Away' and am horrified to see not one but two disses of it above. Weakest tracks for me is 'I Know But I Don't Know'. I'm never sure what I think about 'Fade Away And Radiate' either.

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 16:46 (nineteen years ago) link

I never thought of either band as being particularly morbid, emotional etc., I just thought 'Unknown Pleasures' and 'In Utero' kicked fuckin' ass. Rawk on!

-- dave q (scrape10...), December 9th, 2001.

I was pretty histrionic back in the day:

i'll just say that maybe _unknown pleasures_ is a classic because it's a masterpiece, just maybe? maybe because stephen morris and peter hook formed rock's greatest rhythm section ever, able to define a song with startlingly fresh repeated lines that bled out of the most basic elements breathtaking possibilities? because crushing parallel-universe-metal riffs could be stripped, crystallized, and frozen to drip like icicles above? maybe because riffs could become drones and vice versa? maybe because of the sparsest, least pop tracks ("candidate," "i remember nothing") where a bare beat and atmospheric samples could house ian curtis's sighs and cries? because that band could bludgeon ("day of the lords"), rage ("shadowplay"), and caress ("insight")? just maybe ian curtis sang like no one else could, using a uniquely non-singerly voice to move from a purr to a sneer to a bellow?

-- sundar subramanian (ssubram...), May 17th, 2001.

In this month's Spin, Andrew Beaujon says of Unknown Pleasures: "If you've only heard 'Love Will Tear Us Apart', peep these Mancs on their sole proper album (?) for what they really were: an incompetent metal band that somehow touched the stars."

Sundar (sundar), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 17:15 (nineteen years ago) link

incompetent metal band is a praise. metal is per se incompetent. double negation = affirmation.

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 17:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Wow, Blondie was definitely the sleeper in this poll. I mean, I *like* Parallel Lines (didn't make my list though) but I had no idea it was THIS loved around here.

Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 18:35 (nineteen years ago) link

YAY for BLONDIE!!! I thought you all had forsaken it! My faith is ILM is restored. one of maybe four albums i can honestly say features no dull track.

poortheatre (poortheatre), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 19:16 (nineteen years ago) link


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