Taking Sides ; Linda McCartney or Yoko Ono

The Beatles were the most important musicians of the 20th century. In 500 years, they will be seen as just as important as Mozart and Bach.

Thank God I'll be dead by then

The Beatles were the most important musicians of the 20th century. In 500 years, they will be seen as just as important as Mozart and Bach.

-- Geir Hongro, Thursday, 31 May 2007 11:20 (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

I'm not trying to get at you Geir, but I seriously doubt this. I doubt any rock/pop artist well be remembered much once the baby boomer generation has died off.

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Me too. Its bad enough people rant on about this barely entertaining Pub Rock now. Fly, meanwhile, is mental.

I doubt any rock/pop artist well be remembered much once the baby boomer generation has died off.

Back catalog titles still sell. And the baby boomers aren't the ones who are buying them.

No hip-hop will be remembered in 20 years though.

So, not only does Geir know everything about music, he also knows what the back catalogue market will be like in 500 years time

Well, obviously their albums as such will not neccessarily be remembered in 500 years. But "Yesterday" will still be remembered as maybe the most famous piece of 20th century music.

I'd put money on the most famous piece of 20thC music in 500 yrs time being one of Shostakovich or Prokofiev's symphonies.

Given the frail nature of digital media, I doubt that as much as 5% of today's music will still exist in even 100 yrs.

I might not be around to pay out/collect on my wager, though!

I'd put money on the most famous piece of 20thC music in 500 yrs time being one of Shostakovich or Prokofiev's symphonies.

The works that are remembered by the man on the street are the ones that are easier to hum. Thus, "The Four Seasons" and "Eine Kleine Nachtmusik" are the most famous classical pieces ever even though "experts" may claim there are better works out there.

"Yesterday" is easy to hum, and will thus win out.

which tunes did the man on the street hum in 1507 or 1907, then, and how well-remembered are they today? The winner gets to write history, remember, and "the winner" is almost never "the man on the street"!

There's plenty of songs easier to hum than "Yesterday", lol

Also, Shostakovich and Prokofiev have some great tunes! "A Career" from Shostakovich Symphony nr13 is great! (for example...)

I don't even think "Yesterday" is that well-remembered in 2007, let alone 2507

More people probably know "Imagine"

Linda probably entered Paul's music more seamlessly than Yoko did John's.

I don't think that is slightly relevant. Fly, Plastic Ono Band, her tracks on Double Fantasy and The Paths are all fantastic. I don't think that she should have to seamlessly fit in with her husband's music.

"What do you call a pig with Wings?" . I once heard a guy from the Moody Blues say that with mock horror - like, "How could anyone say such a cruel and sexist thing?" - when you know he'd been chuckling about it for years...

The thing that always annoys me is that she always gets compared to other women artists even though the link between her and Kate Bush, Alanis, Bjork etc, seems fairly negligable. Public Image and James Chance seem like much more obvious comparisons

don't think that is slightly relevant. Fly, Plastic Ono Band, her tracks on Double Fantasy and The Paths are all fantastic. I don't think that she should have to seamlessly fit in with her husband's music

But I wasn't referring to their music at all! Besides, Linda's no musician! As a muse/inspiration, Linda had a more salutary effect on Paul than Yoko did on John; that's all I meant.

The Beatles were the most important musicians of the 20th century. In 500 years, they will be seen as just as important as Mozart and Bach.

-- Geir Hongro, Thursday, 31 May 2007 11:20 (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Yes, they will all be forgotten about by then!

Linda was probably a very nice lady who loved Paul very much (a lovely couple, in a non-sickening way), but come on. No Yoko, no B-52s. And no Death Of Samantha. And no POB/Fly/Approximately Infinite Universe etc. Which would be a bad thing.

And if she DID "break up the Beatles": Well done, getting a great band to quit at the last minute before suckage commmences, leaving behind a pristine back catalog unsullied by crap like "Free As A Bird".

Geir Hongro posts: your fertiliser of choice.

Yes, they will all be forgotten about by then!

Obviously not. Unless you think the entire European cultural heritage will be gone forever. Which is of course not the case.

Why not? You guys aren't exactly reproducing very successfully.

It kind of confirms my point upthread that everyone is still wanking on about the Beatles and Bach.

They will. Forever. Deal with it.

Oi, bossy.

If I actually believed it were the case then I could.

But revisionism happens all the time, things go radically out of fashion. What Pashmina says about the baby boomer generation definitely rings true for me. Anything supposedly innovative that the Beatles did, barely stands out from the rest of their proto indie hum-a-longs.

In 500 years, the entire European cultural heritage will be mostly influenced by the works of Ned's Atomic Dustbin.

Anything supposedly innovative that the Beatles did, barely stands out from the rest of their proto indie hum-a-longs.

There's so many other important aspects out there besides innovation.