ECM s/d.

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this would be one of my favourite records, the 'touchstone' if you like for my interest in free jazz. Ostensibly on the muso's own JCOA label dating from when it was recorded in the '60s (jazz composers orchestra of _america_ i suppose), yes it turns up packaged and distributed by ECM. I should know, since i've leant several copies of it to people who've liked it so much they've kept it that i've re-bought it 3 times.
Ironic, ridiculous but typical and sad i suppose that it gets shuffled off, not included in ECMs proper catalog. and really Phil ? not available in america? really ?

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"Trance" by Steve Kuhn is also excellent.

S.

I've picked up on all of these ECM releases in the last year or so and have enjoyed each of them. Not every record is perfect, but there is some great stuff in there.

The best two Burton records are Passengers and Ring, where Weber guests in his band as a second bassist. Some of the lineups on the Burton records are pretty unique with two electric guitarists (one on 12 string), sometimes two basses, Burton on vibes and a drummer. It is electric jazz, but not really fusion compared to stuff like Weather Report or Mahavishnu.

I've really liked Eberhard Weber's stuff, it is an odd mix of jazz and that minimalist symphonic music like Steve Reich or Phillip Glass. The records sound pretty contemporary sounding considering they are 20-30 years old, in fact some of the more Reich styled pieces would not sound out of place on a Tortoise record. Bill Frisell and Jan Garbarek guest on Little Movements. Pendulum is a Weber overdubbed bass orchestra record. It is a pretty unique sounding record. Overall, it may not be hot and swinging jazz, but I think Weber made some interesting records. The guy pretty much just works as a sideman for the last ten or twelve years or so with Jan Garbarek and hasn't put out but a couple of albums.

On the non-glacier front, Jon Balke & Batagraf's new album blows me away.

Destroy: Heiner Goebbels. Tried, tried, and tried to get into his work, but it didn't happen.

I've got Thimar by Anouar Brahem which has Dave Holland and John Surman, but have only given it a couple of full plays. It hasn't really stuck with me either way.

I've also got a few of the Rarum collections including the one on The Art Ensemble of Chicago, Bill Frisell and Jan Garbarek. I think the Art Ensemble is the best of the three. I like the real icy stuff on the Garbarek album, but some of the I guess world fusion/classical kind of music I did not really get. The Frisell one is also a good listen.

Another ECM artist I have a couple of records by that are pretty good are John Abercrombie's Timeless and a couple of the Gateway trio records with Jack DeJohnette and Dave Holland. Cinematic Orchestra must like some Abercrombie, as I think they sampled him a couple of times.

I would like to hear some of Paul Motian's trio albums with Frisell and Joe Lovano. I'd also like to get Ralph Towner's "Solstice".

'universal syncopations' by miroslav vituous is pretty great, and 'suspended night' by tomasz stanko is really great.

any more good shit of recent vintage to check out?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqG0oZ2MFBs

I'll rep for that whole album, as well as Lloyd's "Sangam".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Gre5LBcYAA

all of dave holland's stuff.

nik bartsch's ronin is pretty decent (not much improvising, very rhythmic, minimal loops in odd-time signatures bumping up against each other, would be good for soundtracking a david mamet movie).

I don't think Holland's on ECM these days though, at least not for "Overtime" (his best from recent years IMO) onward.

oh, you're right

I've really liked Eberhard Weber's stuff, it is an odd mix of jazz and that minimalist symphonic music like Steve Reich or Phillip Glass. The records sound pretty contemporary sounding considering they are 20-30 years old, in fact some of the more Reich styled pieces would not sound out of place on a Tortoise record. Bill Frisell and Jan Garbarek guest on Little Movements. Pendulum is a Weber overdubbed bass orchestra record. It is a pretty unique sounding record. Overall, it may not be hot and swinging jazz, but I think Weber made some interesting records. The guy pretty much just works as a sideman for the last ten or twelve years or so with Jan Garbarek and hasn't put out but a couple of albums.

― Earl Nash (earlnash), Thursday, May 18, 2006 2:46 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark

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These records are really beautiful. I just put on Yellow Fields.

New Valentin Silvestrov album "Sacred Works" on the ECM New Series is tearfully, wonderfully awesome! Kiev Chamber Choir conducted by Mykola Hobdych doing liturgical chants, spirituals, psalms... Picked it up on a whim today from our sadly struggling local classical music specialist and am so pleased I did. Oh wow.

I have Silvestrov's "Requiem For Larissa" already, but will definitely be going back to order the rest of his ECM stuff now.

Also picked up a copy of the new ECM catalogue, which makes for very nice idle browsing.

Wow, hadn't heard Silvestrov before. Gorgeous. Thank you

i'm curious about this album:

http://www.popsike.com/pix/20090922/390097169535.jpg

cuz i love the cover basically. but also cuz i see it described as jazz/krautrock.

scott, u can download from here if you're interested
http://mutant-sounds.blogspot.com/2008/08/wolfgang-dauner-output-lp-1970-germany.html

this julian priester album "love love" is so so so fucking amazing. side long heavy heavy funky spacey jazz. kinda like mwandishi

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h109/pbksound/2b3f57b3.jpg

I only have an MP3 of the title track but it is awesome...one of the best ECMs.

Where should I look, within the the ECM catalogue, for other cool laptop fusion as in this year's Jon Hassell album?

the second side of that preister isn't as good. i mean, it's cool, but a lot looser and not as funky.

i'm curious about this album:
cuz i love the cover basically. but also cuz i see it described as jazz/krautrock.

It's excellent

cool. i will listen. i just got a TON of ecm stuff i've never heard, so i'll report back.

don't have a copy anymore, but i remember digging this record. i'm not a braxton expert either, so don't know where it rates for his fans.

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One more recommendation for Valentin Silvestrov. Specially for Leggiero, Pessante. The Postludium pieces are gorgeous.

2nd the upthread recommendation for marion brown "afternoon of a georgia faun." it's great. mellow, twinkly improv.

Thanks Moka. I'm going to gradually pick up the whole lot, but it's good to know where to lean my ears.

halfway through that Dauner. i wouldn't call it jazz or kraut. it's weird improv. electronics, tuned drums. maybe a trumpet?

ok, just got to a more 'traditional' jazz song w/weird keyboard soloing through some ring modulator.

Jan Garbarek's first album for the label "Afric Pepperbird" is pretty damn good too.

scott that circle album is awesome and, from what i know, highly regarded among braxton fans

my favorite ECM joint tho, w/o doubt, is dave holland's conference of the birds:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/19/DaveHollandConferenceCover.jpg

braxton's on it too. one of my favorite jazz albums prob

No doubt, Conference of the Birds is a truly great record from start to finish.

hey, i like it a bunch too. let's start a club! i hope i still have a copy of that cuz now i want to play it.

the second half of that dauner record is def more jazzy and totally sounds like alice coltrane or sun ra when they're doing the wammy thing on their organ a LOT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hk7fFzPGxM

Search "Silence" (Charlie Haden) from Magico (Haden, Gismonti, Garbarek). So simple and so sad. The tune is like an arrow made from a feather piercing my heart.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW93IP5tnY0