All in all you're just another vote in the POLL! The Pink Floyd ballot poll thread (ILM Artist Poll Thread #49) - VOTING CLOSED

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I knew I could count on you

As I continue to try and reconnect with this stuff, I'm finding myself a bit drawn to the 1972-73 period where they were taking DSOTM on the road. I'm listening to a pretty decent boot of a radio show in Tokyo in '72, where if nothing else it's interesting to hear the band start with a quasi-fusion Rhodes jam and evolve it over time into something like "On the Run."

Any other suggestion for live boots from the period? Some of these have dreadful sound.

Animal Instincts

oh wait sorry i didn't read the "this period" part it's 77

I'm planning on contributing a ballot, but I'm going to have to re-listen to some stuff, cos all the non-Barrett Floyd still sounds like mush to me.

Hollywood Bowl (9/22/72), Boston Music Hall (3/14/73), and most importantly, Earl's Court (both 5/18/73 & 5/1/73)

Time to make ballot now.

yes

London at Rainbow Theatre the 4th night 20-02-1972 is the true jam IMHO - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HJ8ZDzVuZY (my upload)

Also 15-1-1972 Germany(checkout the CWTAE version) is amazing and Chicago 28-04-1972.

Forgot to mention of course all are pre-DSOTM 20-02-1972 obviously the earliest and is the most immature.

I'm glad there's a bit of negativity itt and I hope there's plenty in the poll, I kinda feel like that should be intrinsic to discussion of pink floyd even if it's against the RULES

they're a pretty important band to me personally, I once started a "fave member of pink Floyd" poll (my only ilm thread I think) and I could easily come up w 25 songs of theirs that were among my favourite ever, but I'm still abstaining from this cause I think a key aspect of them & why they're so as the okc kids say fun to think about is that they were often pretty shit, especially when they allowed themselves to be taken over by an idiot racist narcissist

Also there's the whole thing of I didn't do a ballot for Madonna or miles I'm not gonna do one for fuckin Floyd

Not grokking any of that logic, but whatever. Ballot sent.

Yeah, someone needs to put on some Obscured By Clouds.

Heck, everyone needs to.

gotta admit this poll has been brutal in unexpected ways... so hard to think of the floyd in terms of "tracks"... had more difficulty coming up with a "#1" than in any other poll. if there's been an option to evenly distribute all points among 20 tracks i would

also i'm kinda diggin "radio kaos" COME AT ME BRO

i don't hate it

always liked it too, best post-Floyd record imo

As far as this poll goes, my votes are going to be pretty well evenly distributed between DSotM, WYWH, Animals and The Wall. There's a reason why they're the most popular canonical Floyd choices.

taken over by an idiot racist narcissist

Wait, Eric Clapton was in Pink Floyd?! When did that happen?

pros & cons of htchhiking iirc

lol my ballot is probably mostly going to be pre-dark side and final cut, welcome to my world

especially when they allowed themselves to be taken over by an idiot racist narcissist

― Andreass Twerckmeister (wins), Sunday, March 9, 2014

wait what?

no seriously what?

idk the fascist posturing in the wall gets more gross to me as i get older so i'm with wins on this

also the tarfumes post upthread is one of my favorite things i've ever read about floyd, perfectly explains why i don't have time for them after meddle except in isolated incidents (and the final cut bc as they became a less instrumentally intriguing group waters became a crack songwriter imo)

idk the fascist posturing in the wall gets more gross to me as i get older so i'm with wins on this

― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, March 9, 2014

it's supposed to be gross! but even if we decide it's in poor taste or no longer so cool like i dunno sixteen candles or w/e i'll need more than "but but but In The Flesh" to arrive at "everybody knows waters is a racist"

or were we talking abt syd?

we all know that gnome was really a racist code word

Sent!

(Hardest one yet)

31 ballots in. 110 tracks nominated. The only spoiler so far is that everyone's ballots RULE - very cool to see where everything is falling.

Desperately need to comment on this thread.

Hey Elvis, when is the rollout scheduled to start? It's also worth noting for people who haven't submitted their ballots yet that the voting period ends tomorrow at midnight.

After that, he was strictly a dullsville British Blues Guitarist (with a few notable exceptions)

Hard to comment on this without knowing what exceptions you have in mind (Comfortably Numb?) but Gilmour is a GREAT guitarist with never a dullsville moment imo

I don't think it was necessarily a lack of facility, but more that the level of risk-taking as instrumentalists decreased steadily over the years

Don't think Waters-era Floyd were ever the go-to band for instrumental risk-taking but that is no kind of argument against them imo, they had other compensating factors imo

oops one or two too many imo's there, yuk

Have I just missed it, or does Animals never get played on classic-rock radio?

The songs are too long for the way radio works these days.

I was pretty drunk last night & didn't express myself too well but "idiot racist narcissist" is not something I thought would be a bone of contention, ok so we'll give him a pass for yelling the word coon for kicks in a stadium rock song cause he was IN CHARACTER as the cunt rock star he plays in real life but then you have deranged mutterings about "nips" & "wily Japanese", disgusting "almond eyes/yellow thighs" fetishism, he calls yoko ono a bitch for literally no reason in the middle of a song followed by a clip of someone going "herro"

I mean maybe you guys aren't as well versed in the catalogue as me but cmon the guy is a shit how is this even up for debate

I suppose it's a fair point. But
"Not Now, John" is parody?

Sorry, train bumped. My point was going to be, seems a fair thing to question – the Yoko example particularly struck me as well. But I'd tread more carefully on TFC – a lot of that seems to be him voicing the anxiety of the British working class, "Not Now, John" in particular.

The nips bit in final cut is not in character as a comedy commoner, also I think with that sort of thing I'll give you a pass once as a songwriter but when it becomes a pattern I'll question it, and waters is such a ludicrous figure to me that he gets no benefit of the doubt

Like his "anguished" bellow is the terriblest most ridiculous sound in music I can't believe people take him seriously "driving me INSAAAAAA" ha ha fuck off you silly old twat

Waters is a lifelong socialist and I refuse to believe that the nips line is anything other than an in-character, heavily ironized moment

It is possible to be socialist and racist

There's nothing ironic about "herro"

I've also never heard The Final Cut but I am listening right now for the first time. I HAVE heard both Radio KAOS and The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking, wtf is wrong with me

are we counting "Us & Them" and "The Piano Sequence" / whatever else it's been called on bootlegs together? it helps that it was labeled as "Us & Them (Rick Wright piano demo)" on the Immersion box. so I hope so! o/w I will vote for both.

waters is the kind of lifelong socialist who also supports the countryside alliance

or the kind of lifelong arsenal supporter who still puts 'you'll never walk alone' on Fearless

^gets it

Kinda assumed this would be the default position of Floyd fans actually, I mean roger waters has written at least two concept albums about what a cunt roger waters is (but he didn't have a dad u see) I'd have thought it uncontroversial to agree w him

Hard to comment on this without knowing what exceptions you have in mind (Comfortably Numb?) but Gilmour is a GREAT guitarist with never a dullsville moment imo

"Comfortably Numb" is definitely one exception, as is "Another Brick In The Wall, Part 2." My favorite Gilmour playing is on Ummagumma (the live disc), Saucerful, and the Pompeii "Echoes." As for post-DSOTM, his playing on WYWH and Animals really drags those records down for me; he seems bereft of ideas, and never ventures beyond his comfort zone.

Don't think Waters-era Floyd were ever the go-to band for instrumental risk-taking but that is no kind of argument against them imo, they had other compensating factors imo

Yeah, I could definitely see that. I should note that I don't hate post-DSOTM Floyd, and that I'll still defend The Final Cut, but it's frustrating that they never again tried to exploit their more risk-taking strengths as musicians (although, they really seemed to loosen up live, cf. Oakland '77). It's not that I think Waters-era Floyd is bad, just that it could've been better.

From Waters' last facebook post:

I give heartfelt thanks, to those of you who chose to go online and stand with me, in declaring their opposition to colonialism, occupation, racism, dogma, bigotry and narrow national self-interest, in favor instead, of internationalism, self determination, truth, reason, justice, understanding, discourse, liberty, peace and love.

Well they disowned most of their early funny stuff as floundering frippery didn't they? Xp

Lol ok "racism: I'm dead against it, peace and love peace and love" case closed