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― Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 24 August 2007 19:17 (sixteen years ago) link
what kind of fool wants to hate on 'Boyz' anyway?
― blueski, Friday, 24 August 2007 19:19 (sixteen years ago) link
I guess it's not even worth mentioning at this late date, but I *wish* Timbaland didn't have to take a verse.
His vocals seem so out of place. Her lyrics are cryptic and vaguely political, then he awkwardly crashes in with his tired "I'm the MAN baby doll" shtick.
― Daniel, Esq., Friday, 24 August 2007 21:30 (sixteen years ago) link
The disc is great, tho.
I'm dying to hear it. Amazon.com, why art thou tormenting me so? Maybe I'll get it on Monday.
― JN$OT, Friday, 24 August 2007 21:33 (sixteen years ago) link
lol at this being outsold by Rilo Kiley in the UK
― Dom Passantino, Saturday, 25 August 2007 13:55 (sixteen years ago) link
"mia is shit" troll
― am0n, Saturday, 25 August 2007 13:58 (sixteen years ago) link
88 Lines about 44 Mias? -- Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 4 May 2006 13:36 (1 year ago) Link
― Dom Passantino, Saturday, 25 August 2007 14:05 (sixteen years ago) link
where's the m.i.a. thread with an angry j blount defending her, i can't find it
― am0n, Saturday, 25 August 2007 14:10 (sixteen years ago) link
^^^ would love to see
― and what, Saturday, 25 August 2007 14:12 (sixteen years ago) link
The thread where people who think M.I.A is rubbish say M.I.A. is rubbish.
― am0n, Saturday, 25 August 2007 14:46 (sixteen years ago) link
FORTIFY TREEHOUSE! REPEAT: FORTIFY TREEHOUSE!
-- j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 06:34 (2 years ago)
― am0n, Saturday, 25 August 2007 14:48 (sixteen years ago) link
I like how Blount posted without capital letters or punctuation, to show how free and easily in-depth musical concepts flowed throughout his critical brain.
― Dom Passantino, Saturday, 25 August 2007 14:48 (sixteen years ago) link
It's like watching Robin Williams do stand-up
― Dom Passantino, Saturday, 25 August 2007 14:50 (sixteen years ago) link
you should listen to some college radio man, that shit will blow your mind.
-- j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, March 16, 2005 5:59 AM (2 years ago) Bookmark Link
no MIA played on college radio, no sir
― and what, Saturday, 25 August 2007 14:57 (sixteen years ago) link
haha i forgot about the whole sitcom-related derail halfway in
― am0n, Saturday, 25 August 2007 14:58 (sixteen years ago) link
spread out and bent down low
so that's two lyrical references, not just one, right? and the non-completely-obvious one is to the more famous artist, right?
― gabbneb, Saturday, 25 August 2007 15:16 (sixteen years ago) link
I remember The John Larroquette Show! I can't remember any of the episodes, but my mother always made tapes of it for my father while he was in jail.
-- Quit glaring at Ian Riese-Moraine! He's mentally fraught! (Eastern Mantra), Thursday, 17 March 2005 01:24 (2 years ago)
― am0n, Saturday, 25 August 2007 15:25 (sixteen years ago) link
FAKE IRM
― Dom Passantino, Saturday, 25 August 2007 15:28 (sixteen years ago) link
TS: "RUNDAKARUNDAKARUNDAKARUNDAKA RUN DOWN" vs. "go to yo' teepee"
I can't get enough of her inflection on "check my coat in and I paid the dollar / sidekick rings / what's up holla." I don't care if she's Satan's Angel The Sexy Sexagenarian -- that line sounds fabulous.
― Jamesy, Saturday, 25 August 2007 21:52 (sixteen years ago) link
-- am0n, Saturday, August 25, 2007 2:48 PM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Link
-- Dom Passantino, Saturday, August 25, 2007 2:48 PM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Link
??
― s1ocki, Saturday, 25 August 2007 22:27 (sixteen years ago) link
Yep. There's a few other decent ones. Overall the album disappoints.
-- bnw, Wednesday, August 22, 2007 2:50 AM (5 days ago) Bookmark Link
lately paper planes is making '5 day ago me' feel like a dumbass :/
― bnw, Monday, 27 August 2007 00:53 (sixteen years ago) link
DAMNIT. I just realized that I'm supposed to review this by tomorrow.
― Tape Store, Monday, 27 August 2007 00:58 (sixteen years ago) link
(but thanks for reminding me, bnw)
(and I had the exact same reaction as you...Paper Planes changed everything!)
― Tape Store, Monday, 27 August 2007 00:59 (sixteen years ago) link
I didn't warm to "Paper Planes" until I heard the chorus.
― HI DERE, Monday, 27 August 2007 15:58 (sixteen years ago) link
must have been a long 55 seconds for you
― sexyDancer, Monday, 27 August 2007 16:13 (sixteen years ago) link
i am really liking this....a lot
― gman, Tuesday, 28 August 2007 04:49 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah i mean come on HOW FUCKING GOOD is 'paper planes'?
― pisces, Tuesday, 28 August 2007 11:40 (sixteen years ago) link
in at number 39.
― pisces, Tuesday, 28 August 2007 14:28 (sixteen years ago) link
i dont get whats so good about paper planes. NOT REAL PUNKS unless you prefer the clash version. you guys all hated puffy for doing the same thing, except mase was a better rapper
― deej, Tuesday, 28 August 2007 14:31 (sixteen years ago) link
haha deej cap'n save-a-puff
i like the songs that aren't like songs, with all the drums pounding all over the place
― Dimension 5ive, Tuesday, 28 August 2007 14:36 (sixteen years ago) link
paper planes is actually fucking good.
― pft, Tuesday, 28 August 2007 14:39 (sixteen years ago) link
I like that managed to find two people and a group of kids who are even worse rappers than she is! I really like this record. She's got a real way with a hook and the production is smashing.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 28 August 2007 14:46 (sixteen years ago) link
M.I.A. has better flow, deej.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, 28 August 2007 14:49 (sixteen years ago) link
Puff sampled The Clash?
― blueski, Tuesday, 28 August 2007 14:53 (sixteen years ago) link
I like the way she/Switch flipped the verse melodies from Straight to Hell (dark, plodding) into something bouncy but kinda melancholic.
Does the shootem-up chorus have some child voices backing? Someone upthread mentioned globalization themes ... "Oh Papa-San / Everybody, they wanna go home now"?
I don't think this is Willenium/Clash-type sampling techniques ...
― Jamesy, Tuesday, 28 August 2007 14:54 (sixteen years ago) link
whats the difference?
― deej, Tuesday, 28 August 2007 14:56 (sixteen years ago) link
I like the kid rappers! That song is cute, it works really well in a we-just-tossed-this-off-between-recording-the-"real"-songs way.
― The Reverend, Tuesday, 28 August 2007 14:57 (sixteen years ago) link
'$20' is amazing too. really fucking amazing. it's half an amazing album i think now. the bits i don't like are like someone banging some bin lids together.
― pisces, Tuesday, 28 August 2007 15:00 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9_Dk_F98cU
ehehehehehehehe
― pft, Tuesday, 28 August 2007 15:01 (sixteen years ago) link
The difference? You don't see any difference between The Fresh Prince sampling the most popular Clash song for a dance hit and an artist who was basically itinerant for a year while producing songs all around the world, using guests with zero cache? Not trying to make M.I.A. out to be some angel with the cards stacked against her or anything, but christ ...
I'm also in favor of more kid MCs.
― Jamesy, Tuesday, 28 August 2007 15:02 (sixteen years ago) link
i don't understand what difference that makes, no
― deej, Tuesday, 28 August 2007 15:07 (sixteen years ago) link
MIA wasn't west philadelphia, born and raised either
SHE'S AN ART SCHOOL GRAD WITH A RECORD DEAL WHO TRAVELLED THE WORLD, GIVE HER A BREAK ALREADY.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 August 2007 15:26 (sixteen years ago) link
WHEN SHE SAMPLES FAMOUS SONGS SHE'S NOT DOING IT FROM THE SAME PALACE OF PRIVILEGE AS WILL SMITH
― da croupier, Tuesday, 28 August 2007 15:27 (sixteen years ago) link
If Will Smith was any good, surely he'd have worked with Diplo?
― Dom Passantino, Tuesday, 28 August 2007 15:27 (sixteen years ago) link
DJ Jazzy Jeff was merely the Diplo of his time y/n
― Alex in Baltimore, Tuesday, 28 August 2007 15:30 (sixteen years ago) link
god i felt dirty even saying that jokingly, Jazz please kick Diplo out of Philly the way Uncle Phil used to kick you out of the house in Bel Air
Heh. Well I guess the difference is getting more out of the sample than just a hook.
Over-thinking a sample can kill it but ... it doesn't strike me as a cut/paste boring sample. First, they flipped the melody of the sample and gave it a diff. emotional resonance (doesn't sound as dark as it does in the original). Plus, M.I.A./Kala plays around w/ globalization themes in almost every aspect (lyrically, musically, production-wise, etc.). If a listener finds globalization as Kala's leitmotif, then using the "Straight to Hell" sample will probably resonate more.
If you're just bangin' "Paper Planes," the sample might not seem that different from any other sample. My gf doesn't know a damn thing about the Clash and loves the song, so it's nice to see that M.I.A./Switch didn't shoe-horn the sample into the song. It just comes off as organic (which is good), and just gets better when you realize where the sample comes from.
True, but I'm sure she would've liked to visit her BKLN apartment. I think I said itinerant, not poor. And to be fair, I don't think she's really projecting herself as an abject musician busking around the world. BUT I GUESS SHE'S A LOT EASIER TO DISMISS IF YOU THINK SHE IS.
― Jamesy, Tuesday, 28 August 2007 15:33 (sixteen years ago) link