yeah, i'm excited for this. is it possible Mann has a stronger ILM following than Leo?
― one second I'm a goons, then suddenly the goons is me (some dude), Sunday, 26 January 2014 20:02 (ten years ago) link
Ok, so this is a pretty solid cross between the two songwriters. Interesting to hear the effect each has on the other, melodically, musically, lyrically. Sounds like a true collaboration. Tempers Ted Leo a bit, pumps up his power-pop, grits/perks up Mann, lets her explore more rough edges. They're both singing on every song, but generally one takes lead while the other plays support/harmony. Brightening this endless winter right now.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 7 February 2014 22:38 (ten years ago) link
Sounds good, can't wait
― Nhex, Saturday, 8 February 2014 00:21 (ten years ago) link
Man, "Lost in Space" is such a great record. She leans a little too hard on drugs (which she has conceded is a shorthand metaphor), but it's just such a dark, beautiful record.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 21 April 2014 14:03 (ten years ago) link
No doubt! It's wonderful
You get The Both? Definitely some good tracks, "Milwaukee" still probably the best track, weird/fun how Ted brings Aimee back to her '90s mode a little.
― Nhex, Monday, 21 April 2014 14:08 (ten years ago) link
Lost in Space is her best album by some margin, I think.
― akm, Monday, 21 April 2014 14:12 (ten years ago) link
Best Al-Anon record ever. The drugs can be shorthand for any addiction, and being in the orbit of someone with an addiction (and loving/resenting it).
― That's So (Eazy), Monday, 21 April 2014 15:07 (ten years ago) link
if i had to pick one album, it would be bachelor #2. i think it is one of the most perfect female singer-songwriter albums after the classic joni mitchell records from the seventies. lost in space i never really got into, i was really disappointed after bachelor #2. it seemed so middle of the road, so unimaginative. maybe i should give it a spin gain.
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 21 April 2014 15:28 (ten years ago) link
LiS is a subtler record than B#2 but, I think, a more rewarding one.
― Inside Lewellyn Sinclair (cryptosicko), Monday, 21 April 2014 15:44 (ten years ago) link
Only reason I wouldn't pick B#2 is that it followed Magnolia and obv overlaps a lot with it, which made it a bit anti-climactic, imo. Also, lacks her cover of "One" from the aforementioned.
So: what's up with "Lost in Space" being so thick with drug-stuff, and then that album being followed by "The Forgotten Arm," which is also thick with drug stuff?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 21 April 2014 16:31 (ten years ago) link
Bachelor #2 is always gonna be my favorite, I think, I consider Magnolia to be a companion EP to it (instrumental of "Nothing is Good Enough" really solidifies that feel) as well being the album that got me into Mann. But I'm With Stupid and Lost In Space are both great as well, for different reasons.
― Nhex, Monday, 21 April 2014 16:40 (ten years ago) link
I had the Mag soundtrack, then bought direct the EP that preceded B#2. And then B#2 was basically most of the songs from Magnolia plus the EP .
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 21 April 2014 16:56 (ten years ago) link
She put Whatever and I'm With Stupid back in print, right? I once saw her, and this one person was yelling for "Superball." Mann couldn't believe it, but I like that song, too.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 21 April 2014 16:57 (ten years ago) link
I also would pick B#2 -- and Whatever -- ahead of LiS. Maybe even The Forgotten Arm! Something about LiS just makes it a little less memorable for me.
I've seen her a couple times, and at one show she took requests. Someone asked for "Jacob Marley's Chain" from Whatever, and she had to go over the chords with the band before she could remember how to play it.
― bi-polar uncle (its OK-he's dead) (Phil D.), Monday, 21 April 2014 17:01 (ten years ago) link
lost in space benefits from jon brion's wizardry and magic fuzztones and features some really stunning highlights but imo the forgotten arm is stronger top-to-bottom
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Monday, 21 April 2014 17:13 (ten years ago) link
No Jon Brion on "Lost in Space," iirc. Or any of the post "Magnolia" stuff. (Maybe Brion was too in charge during "I'm With Stupid"?)
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 21 April 2014 17:40 (ten years ago) link
guitar tones on bachelor no. 2 and lost in space are all time, warm resonant lasers
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 21 April 2014 17:42 (ten years ago) link
cried to "it's not" at work today, woo
yeah, I'm With Stupid has ton of Brion-isms, wacky circus typewriter effects and so on"it's not" is all-time
― Nhex, Monday, 21 April 2014 17:47 (ten years ago) link
― bi-polar uncle (its OK-he's dead) (Phil D.), Monday, April 21, 2014 1:01 PM (41 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Does she have some kind of disowny thing happening with her first two records? When I saw her about 5 years ago, the whole show was requests, pieces of paper thrown up on stage. A few times she looked at the paper and curtly said, "Nope, don't do that one anymore," and the oldest song she played was from Magnolia.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 21 April 2014 17:47 (ten years ago) link
no, she still plays a good amount of stuff from the first two, like "4th of July", "Choice in the Matter", and "You Could Make a Killing" are standards in the set list... I've seen her perform some odd stuff out too like "Fifty Years After the Fair", "Frankenstein", "Ray" in the last few yearsthere are a few I don't think we'll ever see again, though, like "Put Me On Top"
― Nhex, Monday, 21 April 2014 17:57 (ten years ago) link
oh yeah, of course "That's Just What You Are" comes back around a lot
if any album has been mysteriously ignored it's The Forgotten Arm - I never actually heard this one, so I tend to notice only "Dear John" still gets played from that one
― Nhex, Monday, 21 April 2014 18:00 (ten years ago) link
Huh, interesting...I guess it's possible the requests she refused were 'Til Tuesday songs.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 21 April 2014 18:08 (ten years ago) link
No Jon Brion on "Lost in Space," iirc. Or any of the post "Magnolia" stuff. (Maybe Brion was too in charge during "I'm With Stupid"?) --Josh in Chicago
Doh. That's right. Not sure why I connect this with the end of the JB run but I stand by my contention that the guitar tones on this record are magic :)
― resulting post (rogermexico.), Monday, 21 April 2014 18:48 (ten years ago) link
I've heard her do "Voices Carry," for sure. A lovely version.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 21 April 2014 18:51 (ten years ago) link
She did it on the Acoustic Alchemy tour, but Michael Penn sang it.
― bi-polar uncle (its OK-he's dead) (Phil D.), Monday, 21 April 2014 19:03 (ten years ago) link
At least at the show I went to.
she played it on the bachelor #2 tour, which was the last time I saw her.
― akm, Monday, 21 April 2014 19:38 (ten years ago) link
I once saw her, and this one person was yelling for "Superball." Mann couldn't believe it, but I like that song, too.
― Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 21 April 2014 23:19 (ten years ago) link
I remember "Coming Up Close" being requested three of the four times I've seen her (1999, 2000, 1996, possibly only wasn't in 2008 cause she was only doing a mini-performance previewing Smilers tracks) but never being played. But I've seen her do "Voices Carry" more than once, and honour a request for "(The Other End of the) Telescope."
― Inside Lewellyn Sinclair (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 00:54 (ten years ago) link
(oh, and when she performed "Voices Carry" in 2000, Michael Penn did the jerk boyfriend's lines from the VC video)
― Inside Lewellyn Sinclair (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 22 April 2014 00:56 (ten years ago) link
The Both have been doing "Voices Carry" fairly regularly. Also see the "Labrador" video above if you haven't already...
― Three Word Username, Tuesday, 22 April 2014 08:26 (ten years ago) link
Flame and moth got a sweetheart deal.
― Choogle Plus (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 26 April 2014 15:31 (ten years ago) link
Saw these two last night, great show. They performed the whole album plus Mann's "Voices Carry," "Save Me" and "Goodbye, Caroline," and Leo's "Bottled In Cork," a new song called "Lonsdale Avenue," and one I didn't recognize. Lots of great banter, including Mann outing Leo as a Tolkein nerd (he apparently "led some chapter discussions" of The Hobbit on TheOneRing.net), and Leo's absolutely perfect impersonation of Paul Stanley from the banter tapes.
― Diddley Hollyberry (Phil D.), Wednesday, 7 May 2014 15:40 (ten years ago) link
_I once saw her, and this one person was yelling for "Superball." Mann couldn't believe it, but I like that song, too._Was that in DC?
Was that in DC?
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 8 May 2014 00:02 (ten years ago) link
Nope, it was here in Chicago.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 8 May 2014 03:35 (ten years ago) link
Ha!
― Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 8 May 2014 10:05 (ten years ago) link
We appear to have slept on this wonderful new song from her forthcoming album, written from Trump's point of view. It's been out since October:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qROQ0XYP4Ck
― heaven parker (anagram), Tuesday, 17 January 2017 21:01 (seven years ago) link
is it from a forthcoming album? I don't know. all kinds of people put out songs in that campaign
― akm, Tuesday, 17 January 2017 23:48 (seven years ago) link
it is not on the new album
which is called mental illness and which is out in march
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 00:08 (seven years ago) link
an actual song from the album can be heard here
http://mentalillness.aimeemann.com/
― a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 01:37 (seven years ago) link
There are few artists in the world that I love more than Aimee Mann, but I found that Trump song super clunky and obvious.
The one from the new album sounds much more promising.
― some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 18 January 2017 01:48 (seven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSUF_umjo0E
― some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 28 February 2017 21:46 (seven years ago) link
JoCo's on it, something good came out of that oddly-conceived cruise!
― Nhex, Wednesday, 1 March 2017 00:08 (seven years ago) link
I don't know why it never occurred to me before that James Urbaniak was born to play a character in an Aimee Mann song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en8HZ6X20Og
― some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Thursday, 9 March 2017 16:34 (seven years ago) link
good song
― Nhex, Friday, 10 March 2017 06:37 (seven years ago) link
New album streaming on NPR
― some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Thursday, 23 March 2017 13:13 (seven years ago) link
just casually getting crushed by "you never loved me"
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 March 2017 14:43 (seven years ago) link
.... album of the year?
― the raindrops and drop tops of lived, earned experience (BradNelson), Thursday, 23 March 2017 14:47 (seven years ago) link
The "asshole" quote is under the Steely Dan entry in the Pitchfork interview above the tweet. The "female singer-songwriter" quote is from the comic.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 March 2022 13:55 (two years ago) link
Do Steely Dan not know they're assholes?
― Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Thursday, 17 March 2022 15:09 (two years ago) link
Oh, sorry! It was hiding there in plain sight, I can’t read this morning, too much time on ILX, you know the drill.
― Mardi Gras Mambo Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 17 March 2022 15:21 (two years ago) link
They don't give a fuck about anybody else.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 17 March 2022 15:40 (two years ago) link
That may be the nicest way to call somebody an asshole that I have ever seen.
― henry s, Thursday, 17 March 2022 15:47 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc2iLAubras
― Mardi Gras Mambo Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 17 March 2022 16:26 (two years ago) link
Response by Fagan (via a statement "shared with Pitchfork"):
Well, first of all, the idea that I would make any decision based on the gender of a performer is ridiculous. That’s something that would never even occur to me.There was a communication problem on our end. I was misinformed as to how firm the commitment was to any particular opening act. And, although I have the greatest respect for Aimee as a writer and performer, I thought it might not be the best matchup in terms of musical style.But I can’t pass the buck. I’ll take the blame for the screwup. I apologize for any distress this has caused Aimee and her fans.
There was a communication problem on our end. I was misinformed as to how firm the commitment was to any particular opening act. And, although I have the greatest respect for Aimee as a writer and performer, I thought it might not be the best matchup in terms of musical style.
But I can’t pass the buck. I’ll take the blame for the screwup. I apologize for any distress this has caused Aimee and her fans.
― Please don’t take / My time change away (morrisp), Thursday, 17 March 2022 19:22 (two years ago) link
Some of his best wives are female singer-songwriters.
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 17 March 2022 19:28 (two years ago) link
The upside to this is that she can now do her own tour and people won't be forced to listen to Steely Dan in order to enjoy her performance.
― Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Thursday, 17 March 2022 19:37 (two years ago) link
― Mardi Gras Mambo Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 17 March 2022 19:47 (two years ago) link