well, i think there's a big difference between digging deeper for lesser-known music, and using this as some claim to superiority, which is the part i loathe.
― Surmounter, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:22 (sixteen years ago) link
what do you consider regular music?
-- Surmounter, Friday, April 11, 2008 8:09 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
like i dunno, regular music that ppl like....like if someone likes classic rock i'd rather just talk about tom petty or aerosmith than be all like DUDE THE SECOND SIR LORD BALTIMORE RECORD IS CREWSH!! DO YOU LIKE DUST??!? or if they like indie music we could talk about like the shins or something instead of whatever wierd shit.
or better yet talk about sports.
― M@tt He1ges0n, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:23 (sixteen years ago) link
Aren't YOU using your viewpoint as a "some claim to superiority"?
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:24 (sixteen years ago) link
-- Surmounter, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:22 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link
How much of that is actually the case though?
Is it just hipsters generally you dislike?
― Mister Craig, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:28 (sixteen years ago) link
Matt OTM; talking about sports is always better.
― sonderangerbot, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:29 (sixteen years ago) link
not really catsup, i think liking something obscure is just as valid as liking something incredibly popular.
yeah i totally agree matt, i veer away from conversations like that too
― Surmounter, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:29 (sixteen years ago) link
i don't know if i want to get into a conversation about hipsters just yet
^^^on the real
but I hate sports!
x-post
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:30 (sixteen years ago) link
all sports?? no way
― Surmounter, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:31 (sixteen years ago) link
It's weird too. In my old town I was an obscurantist, where I live now I'm a pop kid. I put some Deerhoof on a mixtape for a friends's party and he wouldn't put it on out of fear. That was depressing.
― Mister Craig, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:32 (sixteen years ago) link
i really haven't met anyone with truly "obscure" taste who copped attitude because most of the time they were just excited to tell you about cool music you might not have heard before.
― omar little, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:33 (sixteen years ago) link
the people who the most attitude are the ones who think that if it isn't well known or they haven't heard it before, there must be a reason for that and that reason must be is the music is lame.
― omar little, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:34 (sixteen years ago) link
honestly there is not a single pro sport that I give a single shit about. playing sports is one thing, watching other highly paid adults to do it = me not caring.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:34 (sixteen years ago) link
I find that while some people who like obscure stuff or have absurd amounts of knowledge often hold it over people, sometimes they are just stating their interests plainly with no subtext and it's the insecurities of the person who doesn't know as much that caused said person to perceive some sort of arrogance. Not always, but sometimes.
― dan selzer, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:35 (sixteen years ago) link
DICHOTOMY
People with specialist subculture knowledge that I find unpleasant and grating: bikes store employee types / hardcore cyclists
People with specialist subculture knowledge that I find exciting and friendly: music nerd types
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:36 (sixteen years ago) link
dan selzer otm
do you guys think we can beat the "varied taste" post count
― El Tomboto, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:37 (sixteen years ago) link
yes otm xpost
― omar little, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:38 (sixteen years ago) link
nah, Surmounter is still too early in his transformation into The Lex to inspire a true clusterfuck thread.
― Alex in Baltimore, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:39 (sixteen years ago) link
OTM dan
It's always about insecurities, except when it's one obscure music guy giving tips to another obscure music guy, then it's possible one of them is being obnoxious.
― sonderangerbot, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:41 (sixteen years ago) link
anyone want to throw in a "people who listen to vinyl are just posers that pretend that they prefer it" opinion to ratchet up the post score?
― John Justen, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:41 (sixteen years ago) link
-- omar little, Friday, April 11, 2008 8:34 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Link i really don't know about this
― Surmounter, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:41 (sixteen years ago) link
It's nice to hear some really truly awful shit once in a while too.
-- Mister Craig, Friday, April 11, 2008 4:16 PM (19 seconds ago) Bookmark Link
^^ going in "truth bombs" thread
-- Alex in Baltimore, Friday, April 11, 2008 4:18 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
spoken like a true ebony eyez fan
― and what, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:43 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't loathe people who like Janet Jackson, but I loathe people who loathe people who loathe Janet Jackson.
― libcrypt, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:44 (sixteen years ago) link
People who like obscure music are dumb and that's why I only listen to Steely Dan and The Eagles.
― ian, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:44 (sixteen years ago) link
"Liking" music is so passé anyways. It's all about the indifference now.
― libcrypt, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:45 (sixteen years ago) link
-- ian, Friday, April 11, 2008 4:44 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
Well I only listen to ABBA!
― kingkongvsgodzilla, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:47 (sixteen years ago) link
Nothing but Beatles for me.
Of course, I never have fewer than 4 albums playing simultaneously in the same room. I'm just THAT into them.
― libcrypt, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:51 (sixteen years ago) link
-- dan selzer, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:35 (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
OTM
― Mister Craig, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:53 (sixteen years ago) link
yes that can definitely be true
― Surmounter, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:55 (sixteen years ago) link
Someone accused me of being a snob for saying that I liked a band's first album best.
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:55 (sixteen years ago) link
?? that's just random. what album?
― Surmounter, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:56 (sixteen years ago) link
Obscureness is no longer a property inherent to the music itself, dudes. No, it's about how you listen to it. Anything can be obscure if you listen with an appropriately obscure attitude.
― libcrypt, Friday, 11 April 2008 20:58 (sixteen years ago) link
My favorite Obscure record was the first, Gavin Bryar's The Sinking of the Titanic.
― dan selzer, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:01 (sixteen years ago) link
-- libcrypt, Friday, April 11, 2008 4:58 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
QFT; http://advancedtheory.blogspot.com/
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:03 (sixteen years ago) link
-- dan selzer, Friday, April 11, 2008 9:01 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
^^^ totally the best LP on Obscure by a long-shot. The other one I like is the Bryars and John White LP "Machine Music."
― ian, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:12 (sixteen years ago) link
I have this
http://www.discogs.com/release/27671
― El Tomboto, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:14 (sixteen years ago) link
I only have Obscure numbers 1,2,3 and 10, and I have 6, Michael Nyman's Decay Music on CD. Had high hopes for that one as I really like Nyman, especially his punkier early stuff, but that one was a bit too "obscure" for me.
― dan selzer, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:23 (sixteen years ago) link
I think I've only met one person who fits this cooler-than-thou stereotype. He was roommates with an ex-girlfriend of mine, and he worked at the Univ. of Chicago radio station. She once happened to mention that she liked minimalism, and he said, "Like what?" -- when she said Glass and Reich, he rolled his eyes. Really couldn't deal with that dude. (Weirdly, he later showed up in illustrated form in a Jessica Abel comic book.)
― jaymc, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:25 (sixteen years ago) link
Oh wait, there was also the party I was at with Hstencil and a Pearl Jam song came on and I was like, "Isn't there something so great about hearing these early '90s songs, something kind of nostalgic?" -- and he glared at me and said "No." Haha!
― jaymc, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:26 (sixteen years ago) link
hahahahahaha.
so annoying!
― Surmounter, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:27 (sixteen years ago) link
hstencil otm
― El Tomboto, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:28 (sixteen years ago) link
miss that dude
Pearl Jam is terrible
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:30 (sixteen years ago) link
It's no temple of the dog ;)
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:31 (sixteen years ago) link
"Oh wait, there was also the party I was at with Hstencil and a Pearl Jam song came on and I was like, "Isn't there something so great about hearing these early '90s songs, something kind of nostalgic?" -- and he glared at me and said "No." Haha!"
I can totally imagine saying this.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:32 (sixteen years ago) link
suzymc
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:33 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah, I don't even like Pearl Jam, but dude was just so humorless and condescending about it!
― jaymc, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:33 (sixteen years ago) link
That's because not listening to Pearl Jam is SERIOUS business.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link
what was like a big hit by Pearl Jam? i wasn't zoned into that at the time...
― Surmounter, Friday, 11 April 2008 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link
Also Goldberg's pretty much right, aside from the (previously noted) ascribing it as a current phenomenon. But it's kind of weird for me to be around people like that who are WAY into such a tiny slice of music. Like, you know every word on the Arcade Fire album and want to talk about hidden meanings? But you can't talk about, I dunno, Talking Heads, and you get freaked out by the Cambodia Rocks albums? That just seems weird to me, though I understand that I've got a pretty terrible sample set for what's normal regarding music listening.
― I eat cannibals, Tuesday, 15 April 2008 18:40 (sixteen years ago) link
that is a different sleepytime gorilla museum (?!) then, because they have no keyboard player, and the only woman in the band is Carla Kihlsted, who plays violin.
― John Justen, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 21:13 (sixteen years ago) link
ctrl-f "challenging"
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 22:42 (sixteen years ago) link