I'd rather ask you all than even try to look this up, if you don't mind.
In the case of The Beatles, that means their 1963 debut album Please Please Me is protected until 2033, but the unreleased session tapes for that album are not.If the Beatles chose not to release the recordings before the end of the year, it would mean other record labels could theoretically put them out and profit from them.
If the Beatles chose not to release the recordings before the end of the year, it would mean other record labels could theoretically put them out and profit from them.
What counts as an unreleased session tape? Anything the Beatles ever recorded at a "session"? Does this mean "Circle of Light" or "What Goes On, Take 52" has to be released as well?
― pplains, Tuesday, 17 December 2013 15:18 (ten years ago) link
Well, if they know that certain takes of sogs that aren't out *there* are securely under lock and key, there is no need to 'protect' them in this way until the choose to issue them.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 17 December 2013 15:21 (ten years ago) link
btw, you are thinking of "Carnival of Wind"..
― Mark G, Tuesday, 17 December 2013 15:22 (ten years ago) link
So, as the general sense over this is "BUY IT NOW BEFORE IT DISAPPEARS" chances are it'll be just behind Beyonce in the chart.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 17 December 2013 15:26 (ten years ago) link
yes i am, mark. cheers.
― pplains, Tuesday, 17 December 2013 15:33 (ten years ago) link
xxxp But if they have these under lock & key and don't release within 50 years, doesn't the copyright lapse anyway? So if they did issue in 2020 or whenever, you could just buy a copy, rip it, and put it out on your own label.
Plus there are multiple takes of everything out there already afaict, theyre not going to release full 100-disc Pepper sessions boxes in 2017 you wouldn't think. Though why not tbh? This is hard.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 17 December 2013 15:38 (ten years ago) link
Clearly, they are 1) Not going to issue anything that isn't out there 2) certain that all these 'lapsed' takes will be buried in a v.secure vault
― Mark G, Tuesday, 17 December 2013 15:45 (ten years ago) link
I have all of these Yellow Dog bootleg CDs with like 60 minutes of Strawberry Fields Forever takes. Can I release those legally in the UK here in a few years?
― pplains, Tuesday, 17 December 2013 15:46 (ten years ago) link
If Apple/EMI 'forget' to, yes.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 17 December 2013 15:55 (ten years ago) link
Probably not if they're as bad as "Just One More Night" #boomboom #tumblingtumbleweed
― Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Tuesday, 17 December 2013 15:56 (ten years ago) link
I guess this means we will finally actually hear "Carnival of Light" (in four years, granted).
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 17 December 2013 15:58 (ten years ago) link
The choice there would be "Issue it in time" or "Lock it away for ever, or until the copyright law changes"
― Mark G, Tuesday, 17 December 2013 16:02 (ten years ago) link
Madman Watching Rainbows
― pplains, Tuesday, 17 December 2013 16:05 (ten years ago) link
I guess this means we will finally actually hear "Carnival of Light" (in four years, granted).will they release it if there's no chance of it being bootlegged? afaik that track doesn't even circulate privately among collectors, right?
― tylerw, Tuesday, 17 December 2013 16:08 (ten years ago) link
WHERE'S MY LET IT BE BLU-RAY GODDAMNIT STOP FUCKING WITH ME BEATLES
― Ian from Etobicoke (Phil D.), Tuesday, 17 December 2013 16:09 (ten years ago) link
Right, only fake versions of CoL have surfaced. But in theory, some unscrupulous insider could release whatever they want after the copyright has lapsed. And I don't think everything on this iTunes set has been in circulation (not positive on that, though).
xp
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 17 December 2013 16:11 (ten years ago) link
there's no way Carnival of Light won't be a complete waste of time
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 17 December 2013 16:13 (ten years ago) link
you're probably right but WHAT IF IT IS AMAZING
― tylerw, Tuesday, 17 December 2013 16:13 (ten years ago) link
It's (almost literally) the bottom of the barrel
xpost Prob.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 17 December 2013 16:14 (ten years ago) link
Even if you could, anyone else who owns it could, and the most likely result will be all these tracks being available online for free, rather than anyone actually being able to profit off of it, surely?
― the "Weird Al" Yankovic of country music (stevie), Tuesday, 17 December 2013 17:00 (ten years ago) link
Which is what happened with all those early blues collections.
It comes down to the 'extras', really: The nice pics, the sleevenotes, and so on.
See Bob Dylan's first album, the many 'new' versions on new unknown record labels, available from the shop right now.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 17 December 2013 17:03 (ten years ago) link
this is a cool collection. I don't have all my unsurpassed masters files here with me to compare but the 2nd take of one after 909 here is way better sounding than the one on Turn Me On Dead Man (which is likely the same one that is on unsurpassed masters actually)
― akm, Tuesday, 17 December 2013 23:09 (ten years ago) link
Hmm...
The US iTunes has it as $39.99 (which is £24.57)
The UK iTunes has it as £34.99 (which is $56.96)
Whichever site/link I choose, it links to my iTunes package, and guess which price it offers?
― Mark G, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 12:18 (ten years ago) link
resist buying it then. Youre just funding heather mills
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 18 December 2013 12:37 (ten years ago) link
funding. OK.
these contact lenses......
― Mark G, Wednesday, 18 December 2013 12:53 (ten years ago) link
I was pretty excited to hear the "Money" studio outtake. Turns out it's the same take as on With The Beatles, but without the piano.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 18 December 2013 16:32 (ten years ago) link
Dunno when this mono Revolver came out, but I just compared the first track, "Taxman," with the 2009 stereo remaster, posted to the right--the latter clarifies some good lines, but overall this stereo sounds too overdubbed, a bit clinical---the mono's a wicked pissah.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSA3BQUPhRM
― dow, Wednesday, 1 January 2014 23:59 (ten years ago) link
When I do a rip 'n' mix of Pepper's---strictly for personal use, of course---I'll skip "Within You Without You" and add "Taxman."
― dow, Thursday, 2 January 2014 00:01 (ten years ago) link
H'm-m-m, several Beatles albums on that same page, currently.
― dow, Thursday, 2 January 2014 00:04 (ten years ago) link
Wondering about those (all 2009 at latest, when I've checked that YouTube page), compared to these US albums, just out---some bitter-vs.-ecstatic Amazon comments here, duh----tempted to get VI, Yesterday And Today, at least (thee most concentrated, charged, compressed to cutting clarity, yet *raunchy*, often enough---in my memory) http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_1_7/189-8344212-6980652?url=search-alias%3Dpopular&field-keywords=beatles%20us%20albums&sprefix=Beatles%2Cpopular%2C232
― dow, Monday, 27 January 2014 16:58 (ten years ago) link
Got The Beatles' Second Album the other day, sounds amazing, but only listened to the stereo mixes. Dave Dexter, Jr. may have been a bitter Beatles-hater, but adding reverb for the US market was a good idea. Easily my favorite Beatles record. You want raunchy? "Money" here kicks the stuffing out of the mix on With The Beatles.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 27 January 2014 17:06 (ten years ago) link
Always loved "Money," and several others there, but don't have a memory of the overall album, ditto some tracks/the whole of Something New. Thanks for the tip---really dig that this series provides stereo and mono for all tracks.
― dow, Monday, 27 January 2014 17:44 (ten years ago) link
still blows my mind that the US Rubber Soul starts with I've Just Seen A Face.
― piscesx, Monday, 27 January 2014 17:58 (ten years ago) link
http://thumbs1.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mVumQMjallM-P21t3YiybkA.jpg
A friend got me this. Looks cool! Really rad 70s design, lots of rare photos, and it looks like it covers the Beatles plus solo careers (at least, up til '77).
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 26 February 2014 22:10 (ten years ago) link
i had that book when i was a kid, it's great
― Iago Galdston, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 22:13 (ten years ago) link
Ditto, I can't remember much specific about it but I think there's stuff to enjoy.
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 26 February 2014 22:48 (ten years ago) link
that was my first beatles book, remember it fondly.
― akm, Thursday, 27 February 2014 03:09 (ten years ago) link
Yup, I had it too. Totally fell apart on me I used to flip through it so much.
― Jazzbo, Monday, 3 March 2014 19:41 (ten years ago) link
The author died of AIDS in 1991. Here's a nice tribute to him:
http://mediawally.wordpress.com/2011/08/28/remembering-writer-nicholas-schaffner-20-years-on/
― Josefa, Monday, 3 March 2014 21:00 (ten years ago) link
thanks for the link! read and enjoyed 'the beatles forever' -- and his floyd book -- a lot as a teen.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 3 March 2014 21:13 (ten years ago) link
mono vinyl direct from the 1/4 inch master reels! i'd thought they needed beatles signatures in blood to do that.
http://wogew.blogspot.com/2014/06/the-beatles-mono-vinyls-press-release.html
― Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 16 June 2014 13:36 (nine years ago) link
OK that's pretty cool - hope they are under $40 each
― polyamanita (sleeve), Monday, 16 June 2014 14:20 (nine years ago) link
ok cooldidn't buy any beatles reissue vinyl yet, waiting for this
probably won't buy the box cuz i don't need the first 2 or 3 albums really, would rather buy let it be and abbey road on stereo individually
― sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 16 June 2014 14:38 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55ssSDV9LWc
― goth colouring book (anagram), Wednesday, 16 July 2014 14:22 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWt3xzaAdl4
― sofatruck, Saturday, 23 August 2014 06:32 (nine years ago) link
Haha damnit I want this so bad after watching that
― ruffalo soldier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 23 August 2014 14:51 (nine years ago) link
http://www.npr.org/blogs/allsongs/2014/09/10/347156982/george-harrison-this-guitar-cant-keep-from-crying
So there's a new box of Harrison's Apple lps coming. I wonder if they will be returning to the original mix of ATMP?
― You and Dad's Army? (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 13 September 2014 08:37 (nine years ago) link
Well, from what I have seen, it uses the original b&w front pic, so probably yes.
― Mark G, Saturday, 13 September 2014 09:44 (nine years ago) link
What's the deal with the mixes?
― rap steve (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 13 September 2014 13:37 (nine years ago) link
remastered using the original analog recordings
― curmudgeon, Saturday, 13 September 2014 14:55 (nine years ago) link