A Pale Horse Named Death
you would never know dude was in type o negativelol
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 01:33 (ten years ago) link
i do remember that the sellout paranoia was so strong with guys like that that anything too overtly melodic was often described as "poppy" in a mildly disgusted tone. also reminds me of the Brian Posehn metal parody, "THIS IS THE GAY PART WITH MELODY!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zySOKr9wqMw
xp
― some dude, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 01:37 (ten years ago) link
A lot of kids definitely demand faster louder more extreme just like the thrash kids before them but the small rise in popularity of doom was sortve against that then everyone started trying to sound like Khanate for a few years but more trad/psych/stoner stuff has got popular again notto mention the whole shoegaze black/postmetal thing. Alcest are not even remotely metal now.
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 01:41 (ten years ago) link
he's rebooted the careers of two singers
i think his work w/ solange and sky ferreira did far more for his own career than it did for theirs (saying this as a huge fan of "everything is embarrassing" who is well aware that that song opened up a whole new (skeptical) audience to her)
― dyl, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 03:16 (ten years ago) link
i dunno solange got her own label at sony off that EP
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 03:22 (ten years ago) link
i mean solange co-wrote and co-produced the entire thing (and is a dynamic live performer imo) so let's not give dev too much credit but that EP did finally solidify her image as indie rock's beyonce, which has been a boon to her career from what i can tell
― le goon (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 03:26 (ten years ago) link
33. Maurice Deebank – Inner Thought Zone (1972 Records)
^ this from the FACT list is sounding really cool.. instrumental guitar, sort of durutti column-ish or ducktails-ish.
― ☞ (brimstead), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 03:32 (ten years ago) link
FACT reissue list, i mean.
― ☞ (brimstead), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 03:33 (ten years ago) link
Surprised there has been no mention of Wildewoman on ILM while she already ranked on two major (perhaps not?) EOY lists, Paste and NPR.
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 03:51 (ten years ago) link
Ah yes, there is some stuff in the Rolling Indie 2013.
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 03:53 (ten years ago) link
Here is that PopMatters Albums list:
75. Thee Oh Sees - Floating Coffin74. The Uncluded - Hokey Fight73. Chelsea Wolfe - Pain is Beauty72. Boards of Canada - Tomorrow's Harvest71. Josh Ritter - The Beast in Its Tracks70. The Flaming Lips - The Terror69. Jagwar Ma - Howlin'68. John Grant - Pale Green Ghosts67. Washed Out - Paracosm66. Superchunk - I Hate Music65. The Icarus Line - Slave Vows64. Studio Killers - Studio Killers63. Lorde - Pure Heroine62. The Haxan Cloak - Excavation61. Justin Timberlake - The 20/20 Experience (Part 1)60. Icona Pop - This Is . . . Icona Pop59. In Solitude - Sister58. Paramore - Paramore57. Suede - Bloodsports56. Popstrangers - Antipodes55. London Grammar - If You Wait54. Russian Circles - Memorial53. Baths - Obsidian52. Caitlin Rose - The Stand-In51. Mount Moriah - Miracle Temple50. SubRosa - More Constant Than the Gods49. Los Campesinos! - No Blues48. Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP247. David Bowie - The Next Day46. King Krule - 6 Feet Beneath the Moon45. Speedy Ortis - Major Arcana44. James Blake - Overgrown43. Run the Jewels (Killer Mike and El-P) - Run the Jewels42. Julia Holter - Loud City Song41. Alice Smith - She40. Waxahatchee - Cerulean Salt39. Deafheaven - Sunbather38. Rhye - Woman37. Jon Hopkins - Immunity36. Mikal Cronin - MCII35. The Head and the Heart - Let's Be Still34. Pusha T - My Name is My Name33. The Lone Bellow - The Lone Bellow32. Laura Marling - Once I Was An Eagle31. Eleanor Friedberger - Personal Record30. The Devil Makes Three - I'm a Stranger Here29. OMD - English Electric28. Arctic Monkeys - AM27. Queens of the Stone Age - Like Clockwork26. Ashley Monroe - Like a Rose25. Palma Violets - 18024. Tegan and Sara - Heartthrob23. Bastille - Bad Blood22. Chance the Rapper - Acid Rap21. Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds - Push the Sky Away20. Okkervil River - The Silver Gymnasium19. Arcade Fire - Reflektor18. Phosphorescent - Muchacho17. Autre Ne Veut - Anxiety16. Savages - Silence Yourself15. John Wizards - John Wizards14. Tim Hecker - Virgins13. Kacey Musgraves - Same Trailer, Different Park12. The National - Trouble Will Find Me11. Janelle Monae - The Electric Lady10. My Bloody Valentine - MBV9. Haim - Days Are Gone8. Chvrches - The Bones of What You Believe7. Daft Punk - Random Access Memories6. Kanye West - Yeezus5. Jason Isbell - Southeastern4. Disclosure - Settle3. The Knife - Shaking the Habitual2. Neko Case - The Worse Thing Get, The Harder I Fight, The Harder I Fight, The More I Love You1. Vampire Weekend - Modern Vampires of the City
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 05:35 (ten years ago) link
"Dance Of Deliverance" appeared on the Felt greatest hits comp "Absolute Classic Masterpieces", it's a great track, good album!
― fear of zing failure (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 06:54 (ten years ago) link
I usually roll my eyes at The Quietus but that Grumbling Fur album they voted at #1 is really good. Kinda like if Delia & Gavin made a psychedelic rock album.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, December 10, 2013 9:58 AM (Yesterday)
Whoa, would not have taken the time if not for that description, Matt; cheers.
― etc, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 07:49 (ten years ago) link
xp Yeah, I don't want to take anything away from Solange there. It's more down to her than Hynes but he facilitated her repositioning. Seems obtsue to deny that Losing You and Everything Is Embarrassing helped those singers find a new audience and confidence after years of label bullshit. Personally I've heard enough from him but that's not the point.
― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 10:07 (ten years ago) link
solange was already positioned as Indie Knowles well before her work with hynes (like, to the extent that it's been her nickname on pop messageboards for years). that was the entire narrative around her previous album (regardless of it not being that accurate w/r/t the music) and since then she'd been cultivating her indie-friendliness assiduously. their brands aligned rather than he did anything to redefine hers.
"everything is embarrassing" was the first sky ferreira song that clicked with anyone but it wasn't exactly a big hit, and now just seems like a superior example of the years of pissing-around-on-a-major-label-budget she did before actually finding her voice/confidence with the new album.
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 10:22 (ten years ago) link
Lex, I interviewed Solange so this is coming straight from her. The path from Sol-Angel to last year's EP was tough - remember Fuck the Industry? - and meeting Hynes was the turning point.
I was trying out a lot of producers in the hope that one would fit. Dev wasn’t actually part of the original cast. I was working with three other producers. He was the second to last producer who came down but it became evident to me that chemistry-wise there was something really special there.
― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 10:26 (ten years ago) link
well yeah, alignment. but he didn't help change or redefine her. i interviewed her circa sol-angel and she was pretty emphatic then about aligning herself with alternative culture (lots of talking about wanting to be the black björk iirc)
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 10:30 (ten years ago) link
Well we'll never know if she'd have got the audience she got at Glastonbury, for example, if her comeback hadn't been Losing You so it's a moot point but that song was the reason most people were there, even though it's inferior imo to Sandcastle Disco. Alignment matters - it's not about whether she needed him to introduce her to alternative culture (she didn't), it's about finding the right song to introduce alternative culture to her.
― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 10:34 (ten years ago) link
'losing you' was still way better than her differently-but-equally twee pre-dev cobblers, however much it may not have warranted the adoration it received
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 10:52 (ten years ago) link
brass tacks she is just not a strong artist basically
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 10:53 (ten years ago) link
Amazing surprise entry @ #8 in the Guardian EOY
― diego floorplan (NickB), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 11:31 (ten years ago) link
John Wizards fyi
― diego floorplan (NickB), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 11:32 (ten years ago) link
that's a pretty strange record from what i've heard.
― a beef supreme (dog latin), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 11:33 (ten years ago) link
Blimey that is a genuine surprise, although I do remember the Graun raving about it a while back.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 11:39 (ten years ago) link
it's #15 on the Popmatters list too. I don't unconditionally love it or anything and it would probably drive a lot of ppl up the wall but it definitely succeeds in sounding like itself y'know
― screaming lord, such opinion (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 11:49 (ten years ago) link
The next 10 from FACT:
21. PRURIENT - Through The Window22. THE HOUSE IN THE WOODS - Bucolica23. CHANCE THE RAPPER - Acid Rap24. GRUMBLING FUR - Glynnaestra25. MGUN - The Near Future26. SYCLOPS - A Blink Of An Eye27. RON MORELLI - Spit28. DANNY BROWN - Old29. THESE NEW PURITANS - Field Of Reeds30. EARL SWEATSHIRT - Doris
― ArchCarrier, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 11:54 (ten years ago) link
can't tell if i genuinely dislike that ron morelli record or if it's just the litany of interviews in which he fails to distinguish himself from every other techno artist with an "attitude" and a mental age of 12.
― Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 11:56 (ten years ago) link
wasn't into the morelli album at all, i've liked bits and pieces on l.i.e.s but their outsider shtick is as eye-rolly as outsider shticks always are
great to see prurient so high up, love that album
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 11:58 (ten years ago) link
Hard to love that Morelli record, it's true. Syclops and Mgun sound interesting though.
― diego floorplan (NickB), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 12:00 (ten years ago) link
Trying to think of apt comparisons for the genre-mangling on the John Wizards record?
there are some great l.i.e.s. artists, despite the critical worm turning in the last few months. interesting to see what three-adjective dismissal is used to taint every single l.i.e.s. artist or cohort retrospectively, over the next year or so.
i mean interesting like hearing your neighbours distant shouting matches.
― Legitimate space tale (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 12:02 (ten years ago) link
It's kind of Shangaan Electro-meets-Rustie in places I guess?
― diego floorplan (NickB), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 12:08 (ten years ago) link
Wanna know who won the Wire poll?
― diego floorplan (NickB), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 12:12 (ten years ago) link
The Wire - Best albums 2013
1 Julia Holter - Loud City Song2 Laurel Halo - Chance of Rain3 Rashad Becker - Traditional Music of Notional Species vol 14 Richard Dawson - The Glass Trunk5 Tim Hecker - Virgins6 Oneohtrix Point Never - R Plus Seven7 RP Boo - Legacy8 Wolf Eyes - No Answer: Lower Floors9 Graham Lambkin & Jason Lescalleet - Photographs10 The Knife - Shaking The Habitual
― diego floorplan (NickB), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 12:16 (ten years ago) link
That Frisk Frugt guy?
― a beef supreme (dog latin), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 12:17 (ten years ago) link
I just can't bring up the enthusiasm to listen to the Julia Holter album. I know I should really, but pgffff...I've heard all the other albums on the Wire list except Richard Dawson - what's that?
― a beef supreme (dog latin), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 12:19 (ten years ago) link
First time ever The Wire's #1 has been in my Top 10. I thought it would be Laurel Halo.
― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 12:20 (ten years ago) link
"hello stranger" off the julia holter album is gorgeous
it's a little...distant for me to put it in my top 10 (solid top 30 i guess) but it's the first of hers i've really enjoyed
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 12:22 (ten years ago) link
Not heard the Richard Dawson either but definitely sounds interesting:
A much-loved musical spectacle in his native Newcastle for many years now, Richard Dawson is a skewed troubadour who sings and plays guitar with a rare intensity and singular style. Dawson’s music is a collision of opposites, his hoarsely cracking voice suddenly rising to a magical soar that’s been compared to Tim Buckley, John Martyn and Richard Youngs, while his battered acoustic guitar veers from stumble to sublime in a way that can recall Sir Richard Bishop or Captain Beefheart.Richard has taken inspiration from photographs, letters, newspapers and illustrations from Tyne & Wear Archives & Museums collections to create The Glass Trunk. Comprised of seven startling unaccompanied songs delivered with a peculiar intensity and off-kilter virtuosity, each interspersed with a couplet of electrified acoustic guitar and pedal-harp (played by the legendary Rhodri Davies), the album is a devastating, wholly idiosyncratic meditation on death and life, violence and love, memory and fog - a rousing Northumbrian song-painting like nothing else you will hear.
Richard has taken inspiration from photographs, letters, newspapers and illustrations from Tyne & Wear Archives & Museums collections to create The Glass Trunk. Comprised of seven startling unaccompanied songs delivered with a peculiar intensity and off-kilter virtuosity, each interspersed with a couplet of electrified acoustic guitar and pedal-harp (played by the legendary Rhodri Davies), the album is a devastating, wholly idiosyncratic meditation on death and life, violence and love, memory and fog - a rousing Northumbrian song-painting like nothing else you will hear.
― diego floorplan (NickB), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 12:22 (ten years ago) link
RD = folk singer from Newcastle, not inherently 'avant' but informed by that side of things. that album is on his bandcamp. he is a really really nice guy and I can't say enough good things about him basically
― screaming lord, such opinion (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 12:23 (ten years ago) link
First listen and Richard Dawson kinda sounds like a cross between Richard Youngs and Ivor Cutler
― diego floorplan (NickB), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 12:29 (ten years ago) link
now that sounds worth a listen
― I like to think I have learnt a thing or two about music (Neil S), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 12:30 (ten years ago) link
rhodri davies rules and all but 'legendary' is pushing it a bit
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 12:36 (ten years ago) link
yeah, was gonna say that Ivor enthusiasts should esp have a look
― screaming lord, such opinion (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 12:36 (ten years ago) link
Rhodri Davies played harp on Charlotte Church's album 'Tissues & Issues', a pretty legendary release iirc
― screaming lord, such opinion (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 12:39 (ten years ago) link
that changes everything
― Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 11 December 2013 12:41 (ten years ago) link
I'm thinking of getting the Lambkin / Lescalleet album for someone for Chrimbo but I'm a bit confused about the many many formats. Anyone more fmailiar with it than I am? Sounds like there's something like 8 different ways you can buy it. And not many places seem to sell it either?
― a beef supreme (dog latin), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 12:43 (ten years ago) link
Bon Ivor Cutler
― a beef supreme (dog latin), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 12:44 (ten years ago) link
Wire - Top 50 Albums
11 Kanye West - Yeezus12 DJ Rashad - Double Cup13 Autechre - Exai14 Matana Roberts - Coin Coin Chapter Two: Mississippi Moonchile15 Dennis Johnson - November16 Pharmakon - Abandon17 Okkyung Lee - Ghil18 These New Puritans - Field Of Reeds19 eMMplekz - Your Crate Has Changed20 Main - Ablation
21 My Bloody Valentine - mbv22 Fire! Orchestra - Exit23 Boards Of Canada - Tomorrow's Harvest24 Alasdair Roberts - A Wonder Working Stone25 Young Echo - Nexus26 Dean Blunt - The Redeemer27 Holden - The Inheritors28 Sleaford Mods - Austerity Dogs29 Eliane Radigue - Psi 84730 Autre Ne Veut - Anxiety
31 Else Marie Pade & Jacon Kirkegaard - Svaevninger32 The Dead C - Armed Courage33 V/A - The Outer Church34 Earl Sweatshirt - Doris35 Forest Swords - Engravings36 Jessy Lanza - Pull My Hair Back37 AtomTM - HD38 Ashley Paul - Line The Clouds39 The Necks - Open40 Endless Boogie - Long Island
41 G*Park - Sub42 Juana Molina - Wed 2143 Chance The Rapper - Acid Rap44 Special Request - Soul Music45 Stella Om Source - Joy One Mile46 John Wizards - John Wizards47 James Ferraro - NYC, Hell 3:00am48 Call Back The Giants - The Marianne49 Grumbling Fur - Glynnaestra50 Jem Finer & Andrew Kötting - Visionary Seascapes
― diego floorplan (NickB), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 12:56 (ten years ago) link
Wire list is the only one I save to savour in print form, so will bail from this thread
― the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 13:02 (ten years ago) link