Year-End Critics' Polls 2013

I hope there's a sketch about all this HAIM handwringing on SNL tonight.

haha one person comments and its ilm handwringing?

I meant in general, outside ILM but hey, I do find that the more specific and esoteric an SNL sketch is, the funnier it is.

I got the impression they were universally loved outside in the real world.

That Matthew E White album is nice but I'm surprised to see it ranking so high.

yeah there was a lot of corny indie fuxxor angst over it a couple of months ago but not much on ilx. until now. it's a pretty great album but i'll admit it strikes me as an odd choice for any individual's #1. totally makes sense as a consensus pick though.

re: hy-um

I thought it was corny indie fuxxors who liked it?

Plenty of people seem to love them but I just dont get it.

rate your music is like rockism central

arent most of these sites?

ilm is rate your rockism central

the RYM alltime chart is pretty metal free though is it not? Last time I saw it it was all beatles bowie radiohead etc. the same as everywhere else.

Last time I saw it it was all beatles bowie radiohead etc.

rate your music is like rockism central

― dyl, Saturday, November 23, 2013 12:13 PM (8 minutes ago)

some dude otm about haim, it's not for me at all but i can totally see why other people would love it and it's far from hateable

The Singles Jukebox' Top 25 of 2013 is better than RYM's Top 25 Singles of 2013

that melt-banana song is the shit.

oh good, that thread was a lot easier to read than I was expecting

Jazzwise Top 20 New Releases 2013
http://www.jazzwisemagazine.com/news-ma ... itics-poll

01 Wayne Shorter Quartet – Without A Net (Blue Note)
02 Kenny Garrett – Pushing The World Away (Mack Avenue)
03 Stan Tracey – The Flying Pig (ReSteamed)
04 Sons Of Kemet – Burn (Naim)
05 Terri Lyne Carrington – Money Jungle: Provocative in Blue (Concord)
06 Rudresh Mahanthappa – Gamack (ACT)
07 Geri Allen – Grand River Crossings (Motema)
08 Kairos 4Tet – Everything We Hold (Naim)
09 Kenny Wheeker/Norma Winstone – Mirrors (Edition)
10= Cecile McLorin Salvant – WomanChild (Mack Avenue)
10= Ralph Alessi – Baida (ECM)
10= Jaimeo Brown – Transcedence (Motema)
13= Carla Bley/Andy Sheppard/Steve Swallow – Trios (ECM)
13= Liane Carroll - Ballads (Quiet Money)
15= Quercus - Quercus (ECM)
15= Dave Holland’s Prism - Prism (Dare2/Okeh)
17 Gregory Porter – Liquid Spirit (Blue Note)
18= Craig Taborn – Chants (ECM)
18= Wallace Roney – Understanding (High Note)

TSJ selection is still reliably great. Nevospitannyy, Pata Pata and Damaso in particular.

The Haim album is possibly my favourite of the year but I agree that it doesn't seem quite like AOTY material. Then again I don't think I've heard an album this year that immediately struck me as a legit classic like Kaleidoscope Dream or Let England Shake.

It occurred to me the other day that the ILM Top 10 albums could end up being almost entirely comprised of shiny pop-rock and pop-country.

I think it will be fascinating this year because there's so little consensus in the lists and the ones that are cropping up a lot so far aren't ILX favourites. From my own top 10 I can see Vampire Weekend, John Grant, Haim and Kacey doing well but I'm not sure what else will place.

I thought people liked that Disclosure album

I figure Haim, Kanye, Daft Punk are tpp 5 shoo ins

i'd've thought MBV would do well but coming out so early in the year probably hurts its chances.

i thought i liked the disclosure album but it didn't stick at all. "white noise" is in my hundred-strong trax of 2013 longlist though

Pretty sure the ILM list is going to be terrible this year. No consensus among the outliers that I can see, and another disappointing year from Finland.

I'm sorta shocked that no one's mentioned Paramore yet. That record was such a 2013 jam.

another disappointing year from Finland.

Stalin's words exactly iirc

I'm sorta shocked that no one's mentioned Paramore yet. That record was such a 2013 jam.

― peace on earth and mercy mild (how's life),

I listened to it for the 400th time yesterday afternoon after my local station played "Still Into You," finally a hit, at least here. I'm tempted to make it my #1 album, flaws and all.

I dunno, I've stopped using EOY as any sort of barometer of 'what's best' because I know this year won't jibe with my listening but it's always a great way for me to check out what I've missed, discover a few hidden gems and generally find out what's been happening in the curious world of music I don't listen to much.

Outlier consensus will probably be the Knife album or something.

I don't think you understand the outlier demographic. The Knife are not outliers. They're fucking massive.

pretty proud of our TSJ list – our best ever imo.

xpost yeah but they alienated a lot of people this year.

i guess it's the outlier stuff i'm most interested in. i've been on top of things quite a bit these last few years and i'm always amazed at how much i've missed come EOY time.

Singles Jukebox list looks pretty good, actually. Certainly some things I'll check out.

I'm hoping that I'm wrong about the weirdo stuff getting no traction this year, maybe I've just not been paying adequate attention, but I do have a feeling that ILM is going to be very shiny and well-produced and, uh, Haimly.

some of the weirdo stuff is shiny and well-produced!

That can be true, yeah. I'm kind of grasping around to find a way of describing 'the usual suspects', but's it is not so easy...

any good non-shiny stuff this year?

Nng, ignore errors in that post please. xp

Tim Hecker ftw

among the unHaimlich crew anyhow

Norman Records (Leeds): http://www.normanrecords.com/top-fifty-2013.php

1. Austerity Dogs - Sleaford Mods
2. Pearl Mystic - Hookworms
3. The Inheritors - Holden
4. Light Up Gold - Parquet Courts
5. Field of Reeds - These New Puritans
6. Floating Coffin - Thee Oh Sees
7. Excavation - The Haxan Cloak
8. Engravings - Forest Swords
9. Restless Idylls - Tropic of Cancer
10. Still Smiling - Teho Teardo & Blixa Bargeld
11. Fuzz - Fuzz
12. Tomorrow's Harvest - Boards Of Canada
13. Weird Sister - Joanna Gruesome
14. Slow Focus - Fuck Buttons
15. Factory Floor - Factory Floor
16. m b v - My Bloody Valentine
17. UHF - Hacker Farm
18. Chance Of Rain - Laurel Halo
19. The Man Who Died In His Boat - Grouper
20. Push The Sky Away - Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds
21. Wakin On A Pretty Daze - Kurt Vile
22. R Plus Seven - Oneohtrix Point Never
23. Shaking The Habitual - The Knife
24. Berberian Sound Studio - Broadcast
25. Anthroprophh - Anthroprophh
26. Exai - Autechre
27. II - Unknown Mortal Orchestra
28. Rock 'N' Roll Rorschach - Lantern
29. Mas Fiestas con el Grupo Vision Fortune - Vision Fortune
30. Vapor City - Machinedrum
31. Seasons of Your Day - Mazzy Star
32. With Love - Zomby
33. New History Warfare Vol. 3 : To See More Light - Colin Stetson
34. Nepenthe - Julianna Barwick
35. Music For Smalls Lighthouse - Plinth
36. Drifters / Love Is The Devil - Dirty Beaches
37. Fugitive - Sommet
38. Life Cycle Of A Massive Star - Roly Porter
39. Traditional Music of Notional Species Vol. I - Rashad Becker
40. Cold Spring Fault Less Youth - Mount Kimbie
41. Slow Summits - The Pastels
42. Remember Your Black Day - Vatican Shadow
43. From Tomorrow - The Oscillation
44. Phases & Repetition - LA Machine
45. Incubation - Function
46. Collected Works Vol. 1, The Moog Years - M. Geddes Gengras
47. Shadows - Maston
48. Films & Windows - Lawrence
49. The House at Sea - Amor De Dias
50. Popular People Do Popular People - The Prophet Hens

oh there are some great records in there

Yeah, I think there are quite a few consensus outlier picks in there. Depends on how outliery people are talking about here. I mean, once something gets a consensus it stops being an outlier. Although there's no 'The Seer' or 'Bish Bosch' this year. TNP and the Knife maybe the closest to that sort of thing. Great to see that Hacker Farm album making a few lists. Will def be in my list.

Delighted to see Sleaford Mods getting some Norman love.

i think people would like the new bardo pond if they bothered to listen to it

i wanna hear both of those!

'Jobseeker' will be making an appearance in my tracks list, but I haven't heard the album all the way through (xpost re: Sleaford Mods).

Hookworms haven't really had much ilx love, which is a shame. They're not doing anything completely crazy, but certainly one of the best live bands I've seen. Also nice to see the J-Grü album in the Norman list, but that is not an ilxy record.

Is Dustin Wong making any lists? His album is really interesting and good and not tooooooo weird. What about Earthless?