Rolling sad emo boys (and girls {but not Jessica Hopper}) thread 2007

Hey is Cobra Starship any good, I liked the Snakes on a Plane song and now I find out that they are more than just a one off collaboration of emo superstars??

My The Used review went up.

"Bert McCracken"? Seriously? That is either the best or worst name a rocker's ever had.

i am obsessing over brand new god & the devil right now and have been for about two weeks — really hope it lasts. i saw them a week ago and their audience was 100% frat-types, and i got extremely sad.

more pop than emo, but the record from paramore thats coming out on atlantic could be my record of the summer. nothing but sugar. which i mean as a deep compliment.

like about 1/2 of the used, maybe? i love that it is a fuck-you to gerard way, and that pop music can now apparently sustain an album-length fuck-you to gerard way. i love that such a thing has been entered into the pop canon. "liar liar" has bad lyrics, but is a great song.

Fall Out Boy is the ONLY full-length I've bought so far this year, and I've yet to tire of it. I even bought the Kanye remix of "This Ain't A Scene" (Kanye steals the show on that one).

I chickened out of going to see them because it would've meant:

a) sitting through Cobra Starship & Gym Class Heroes,

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b) quite possibly being the oldest person in the crowd, which would just bring back unpleasant memories of the Millencolin show I attended in '04.
(Awesome set, but JEEZ, I felt like a "hip" high school English teacher.)

aren't they pretty bad live anyway, i seem to recall the couple times i caught them on snl or letterman or whatever they were like exceptionally shitty. eternal respekt for the spinny guitar move though. i could see it being a fun atmosphere/hilarious people watching though (although maybe the novelty of a crowd of 15 year old emos going nuts would only be good in theory/wear off after two songs (plus chester molester factor yeah (but maybe if the tickets were free)))

also are there any my chemical romance bert mccracken dis tracks or is that beneath them? i'm glad to hear they had a falling out (haha any devolution of this post into that retardo gym class heroes song with all the emo namedrops is entirely unintentional) because 1) the used fucking sucks and 2) my god, lamer feud than scott storch/timbaland, a killers/bravery for a new day

a) From what I've seen of FOB on Youtube, they are WILDLY inconsistent live - Patrick Stump's voice can get really shakey (stagefright maybe?), and the guys insist on running around, jumping off the drum riser, etc, etc. Fun to watch, but of a bit of a dog's breakfast to listen to. When they stand relatively still and actually PLAY them damn songs, they're not half-bad.

b) I wasn't aware of any feud with the My Chems! (Also: I've really liked what I've heard of The Black Parade...)

them damn songs

THE damn songs, etc...

of the new fall of troy i am not so fond :(

"Clothes Off!" > "Breakfast in America" >>>>>>> "Cupid's Chokehold" >>>>>>> "We Don't Have to Take Our Clothes Off", amirite?

You're missing one. "Friend Request" PWNs all of them.

I would assume that's Gym Class Heroes?

Mhmmm.

I need to go on an emo catchup binge. But I am listening to lots of awesome ironic rock-star rap right now, so emo will probably have to wait for the weekend.

when it came out (and to this day) im utterly in love with coheed & cambria's "the suffering" -- and have decided today is the day im ripping my brothers coheed collection and seeing how it all stands up. ill report back

it wasnt that great

As much as I like "Clothes Off!", it feels like a total hedging of bets for GCH to release a second single in a row with Stumpy singing a familiar hook.

Paramore - Misery Business

I like this. The singer sounds like she's going for the Patrick Stump cram-as-many-syllables-in-as-possible style of singing, but without Stumpsy's sense of melody, so it just kind of sounds like she's rapping a bit arrythmically. But that's fine by me. The guitars alternate between crunch and skitter. There's this nice, tense rising-guitar section after the bridge that's really satisfying. It could use more of a hook, but the guitar melody works well for that, even if the vocals don't. It may just be the emo-girl novelty (I'm surprised its taken this long!), but this is doing it for me this minute. Cute video too.

I should check if they've talked about this on teenpop.

this band boys like girls is kinda terrible, but i'm intrigued by their name...
for a while i just took it at faced value, but today it hit me that it might mean (emo) boys who look like girls.
thoughts?

face value*

"The Great Escape" I can deal with, but it really doesn't do anything for me. Haven't heard anything else.

This is the only Paramore mention I can find in Teenpop:

First Paramore impression: This album (Riot) is really good! This year's Meg and Dia! Good singing, catchy melodies, nice guitar/drums, probably in my top 10 of the year to this point, but saying any more than that will require additional listens (haven't really paid attention to the lyrics, etc. at this point).

-- Greg Fanoe, Monday, July 2, 2007 6:30 AM (Monday, July 2, 2007 6:30 AM) Bookmark Link

Any idea who Meg & Dia are?

There's a bunch on Paramore from 2006. Meg & Dia's album from last year had a couple of great tracks, search "Indiana" and the single "Monster." This exchange came after a discussion of "shemo," basically meaning female confessional rock, not Flyleaf and Meg and Dia and Paramore. (Best shemo teenpop track ever is probably "Unforgiven" by Fefe Dobson.)

More female fronted emo over at clap clap, the band is Paramore. Maybe this should be called shemo, since emo has been tainted by a culture war and the girl groups do it better anyway.

-- nameom (nameom), Saturday, 29 July 2006 14:41 (11 months ago) Link

Yeah, it's the only emo I've ever liked aside from Fall Out Boy, and it's totally the female vocals doing it. And not just for ideological reasons! A male voice, even a high one, can really get lost in the murk that is emo music and so it all sounds sludgy and indistinct, but the female vocals come out so well that it makes everything a lot more poppy. Paramore could definitely be better, but I like the idea, and I really like the video.
-- Eppy (Eppy), Saturday, 29 July 2006 21:27 (11 months ago) Link

Actually, "The Great Escape" ends up in my head a lot, and that's only off of incidental radio play. So they're probably doing something right.

REVIVE! (for Nervous)

So, should I be checking out the Paramore album? I get a feeling I probably should be.

I keep hearing this emo cover of "Time After Time" on the radio. It's alright, but the problem with it is that if you're going to do the novelty genre cover of a well-known song, you should pick one that hasn't been used to that end before (early Lil Jon sighting alert!), and done better at that.

Here it is: Quietdrive, "Time After Time" (not the studio version, unfort.)

i quite like the paramore album so far, ive only made it about halfway through due to constantly getting interrupted by other stuff but word from a buddy is its kind of frontloaded. still im digging it more than i thought i would have tho perhaps if id kept up with this thread i wouldnt have been so surprised.

also, does this thread extend to proggy-poppy-posthardcorey stuff? ive been listening to the first Sound of Animals Fighting (mems. circa survive, rx bandits, finch) record, digging it. tries too hard sometimes but hidden in proggy muck are some awesome pop songs

also, does this thread extend to proggy-poppy-posthardcorey stuff?

I posted about Enter Shikari upthread, so yeah. And this can extend to straight ahead pop-punk too.

i know you dont seem to be into them, but im quite underwhelmed by the new songs p!atd have been playing. looks like its shaping up to be an indie rock bummer of a sophomore record

I'm quite into them, although I've never gotten around to hearing their album. I'm mad I didn't see them when I had the chance. Sounds like they've had quite the ups and downs with the recording of the new one.

thats such a totally excellent album, i cant believe you havent gotten to it! completely worth it. unfortunately ive heard they arent too great live, and i feel backed up by youtubes ive seen. apparently they threw away an entire albums worth of material before settling on the stuff theyve got going now?

Speaking of p!atd live, I saw some live footage of them on youtube, in particular the one where the lead singer gets hit in the face with a thrown bottle at Warped Tour or something. Anyway you could hear him singing 4 or 5 more words to the song after he was hit and doing nothing but bending down and clutching his face in pain. Does anyone know if the Panic! boys fake it live sometimes? Is this an inquiry I should further pursue on a fan board rather than here? Not that it really matters if they do, I'd probably dig them even more if it was true.

man it's weird that quietdrive is getting big. they've been around mpls for a awhile.

Bumped!

Ton of emo albums just got released:
Say Anything, Coheed and Cambria, Chiodos, The Good Life, Jimmy Eat World, Thrice, Thursday DVD....

Quick judgements: Great, good, dumb, emo?, decent, eh, and rocking.

Also: What emo albums (if any) do you guys think are going to place on the year end polls/lists? Fall Out Boy seems like a shoe-in. Any others?

are against me emo?

i'm sure there's some gold if you dig but what I heard of the new Say Anything was real disappointing.

If I end up writing about year of emo, I'm gonna write about Against Me!, but I'm not sure it's emo. It's really punk, I think.

Metacritic seems to like Say Anything. What should I seek?

I'm even more backwards than normal, so I have no idea what is going on.

I just finally heard the last Say Anything album, kinda avoided it until now. Better than I thought. A little ridiculous at times, but I didn't hate it. I'm going to try to listen to the new one soon, its been getting surprisingly good reviews.

I'd give the new Streetlight Manifesto a try. It comes out next week (I'm reviewing it). It's really Ska, but it's got a lot of emo sensibilities, a lot of lyrics that fit the genre conventions. And I get the feeling Tom (the singer) is much more connected to the emo scene than other ska bands. (Other Ska bands? Gasp. Yes, they exist.)

I discovered them on Gossip Girl this week, but So They Say aren't bad. Worth checking out (though they've got that cluttered myspace page indicative of an emo band).

Can't be worse than M.I.A.'s.

Yes, the new Motion City Soundtrack is pretty damn good! Glad I gave it a chance. I never liked anything I've heard off the previous two albums, but I was a big fan of I Am the Movie. Still nothing as good as "The Future Freaks Me Out", but "Her Words Destroyed My Planet" does a good job trying. Not a big fan of "History Lesson" though, the Flogging Molly touch just does not work.

Just dug out Through Being Cool and Stay What You Are this week for the first time in several years. They were favorites of mine when I was getting over a breakup in 2002, and I'm really surprised at how well they've held up. Before I knew the word "emo", I just called them "whineyboy". I never really got into emo though, other than Thrice/Thursday-ish screamo stuff, which is in a different league altogether, perhaps. I might try to investigate stuff like Say Anything and Motion City Soundtrack this week, just for kicks.

Also check out the new Gaslight Anthem + Against Me!. Good year for Warped Tour'ish bands.

the soundguy at a recent show i went to was playing through being cool in between bands. i'm sure it was the delicate balance of nostalgia, booze, and weed, but "you vandal" was about the most perfect thing to my ears at that moment