Year-End Critics' Polls 2013

That Matthew E. White is good, but it came out August 2012. I wanted to love the These New Puritans but I just can't.

Uncut and MOJO lists snaked out Nov 23 last year so more tasteful lists for the elderly soon! Then Mojo Jr/Paste, The Fly, NME, Q, PopMatters metal (they do that better than pop), Magnet, FACT, Gorilla vs. Bear, SPIN, Filter, The Wire, Classic Rock, Clash, Drowned In Sound, Rolling Stone, Pop Matters 75, Stereogum, That's How Kids Die, AV Club, Crack, Quietus, The Guardian, Juno, Resident Advisor, Kerrang!, Terrorizer, Consequence Of Sound, Pitchfork, Tiny Mix Tapes, The Liminal, Rock-A-Rolla, XLR8R, Louder Than War.

...ILX

Rate Your Music Top Albums of 2013
seems a bit premature to pull this in november when its in constant flux. also these RYM lists are always kind of weird looking because like half the userbase are metal/prog-heads and half are indie dudes

When you type things like this I honestly fear for you sometimes, dude.

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Meaning the two references within - gypsy punk and hipster - don't sound, to me, to be anything at all to do with the music Sons of Kemet make and I've not seen them used in any other discourse about it at all. It's jazz with a Caribbean melodic flavour and interesting textures courtesy of two drummers and a tuba. There are vaguely rock / dance rhythms going on at times but that's it.

yeah, cool i get that i was prob being pretty reductive there and they're not the same thing. i think what i meant was i could see this kind of music being not far from the kind of stuff you'd see at a festival like boomtown fair, but it's removed enough from the hippier trappings of that scene to make it amenable to "ILX-world" discourse. It's not too different from, say, Youngblood Brass Band or what have you (yes,yes YBB aren't gypsy punk but they , but its references and touchstones are a lot trendier. don't get me wrong, i rather like SOK and i don't really even have a prob with Boomtown-y music so i shouldn't be picking holes.

The usual Steven Wilson fetishism is, as always, present and accounted for.

Except this Steven Wilson album really is that great, it's fantastic.

that Rate Your Music list is horrible as always, Haim, who will probaly win the ILM poll, can't even make the Top 100.

so i had to click on that link to see where Haim does place in 2013, was about to give up but finally found it at 659 place.

Haim are shite though

Except they aren't.

Rate Your Music is useful as a research and resource tool, but as a community it's the fucking worst.

Dont know about it's users or community or why its the fucking worst and its only really a useful guide but I expect its users go there as it seems to cover music ignored by critics elsewhere (ie metal and prog)

<i>music ignored by critics elsewhere (ie metal and prog)</i>

And all remains right with the world.

Except my ability to remember to convert to BBcode.

excellent discussion

surprised people maintained any goodwill toward that soggy nick cave record

The Matthew E White album got a January or February release over here, which is why it's making a lot of lists. Good album, gorgeous arrangements, shame about his lack of vocal presence.

The John Grant record stands or falls on how successful is he in fitting the rhythm of his lyrics around the electronic arrangements. The difference between the astonishing first song and the ponderous second lays this bare really. It would be merely a very good album were it not for the incredible two songs that bookend it, although there's good stuff throughout. You ha r to have a high tolerance for monomanaical breakup albums but it's sad for some significant other reasons as well.

New board description: "Haim are shite though. Except they aren't."

I find Matthew E White underwhelming as a singer too, even though the album's arranged and produced to perfection and presses all my 70s country-soul buttons. It slid from my Top 10 as the year wore on.

Nick Cave has delivered two of my favourite shows of the year but I still can't love that album. Three amazing songs - Jubilee Street, Higgs Boson Blues and the title track - along with too much midtempo solemnity and a couple of duds that would barely have been B-sides in the Dig Lazarus Dig phase.

If Haim win the ILM poll then every ilxor who votes for it needs to take a long hard look at themselves followed by this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flagellation

i don't particularly love the Haim record but people who seem really offended by it are weird, what's the big deal

I was thinking of putting something else at #1 just because while I think the HAIM album is good, I don't think it's quite album of the year material; but if people keep bitching about HAIM I might give them the #1 spot merely out of spite.

Sounding better to me this morning than it has lately, actually.

I hope there's a sketch about all this HAIM handwringing on SNL tonight.

haha one person comments and its ilm handwringing?

I meant in general, outside ILM but hey, I do find that the more specific and esoteric an SNL sketch is, the funnier it is.

I got the impression they were universally loved outside in the real world.

That Matthew E White album is nice but I'm surprised to see it ranking so high.

yeah there was a lot of corny indie fuxxor angst over it a couple of months ago but not much on ilx. until now. it's a pretty great album but i'll admit it strikes me as an odd choice for any individual's #1. totally makes sense as a consensus pick though.

re: hy-um

I thought it was corny indie fuxxors who liked it?

Plenty of people seem to love them but I just dont get it.

rate your music is like rockism central

arent most of these sites?

ilm is rate your rockism central

the RYM alltime chart is pretty metal free though is it not? Last time I saw it it was all beatles bowie radiohead etc. the same as everywhere else.

Last time I saw it it was all beatles bowie radiohead etc.

rate your music is like rockism central

― dyl, Saturday, November 23, 2013 12:13 PM (8 minutes ago)

some dude otm about haim, it's not for me at all but i can totally see why other people would love it and it's far from hateable

The Singles Jukebox' Top 25 of 2013 is better than RYM's Top 25 Singles of 2013

that melt-banana song is the shit.

oh good, that thread was a lot easier to read than I was expecting

Jazzwise Top 20 New Releases 2013
http://www.jazzwisemagazine.com/news-ma ... itics-poll

01 Wayne Shorter Quartet – Without A Net (Blue Note)
02 Kenny Garrett – Pushing The World Away (Mack Avenue)
03 Stan Tracey – The Flying Pig (ReSteamed)
04 Sons Of Kemet – Burn (Naim)
05 Terri Lyne Carrington – Money Jungle: Provocative in Blue (Concord)
06 Rudresh Mahanthappa – Gamack (ACT)
07 Geri Allen – Grand River Crossings (Motema)
08 Kairos 4Tet – Everything We Hold (Naim)
09 Kenny Wheeker/Norma Winstone – Mirrors (Edition)
10= Cecile McLorin Salvant – WomanChild (Mack Avenue)
10= Ralph Alessi – Baida (ECM)
10= Jaimeo Brown – Transcedence (Motema)
13= Carla Bley/Andy Sheppard/Steve Swallow – Trios (ECM)
13= Liane Carroll - Ballads (Quiet Money)
15= Quercus - Quercus (ECM)
15= Dave Holland’s Prism - Prism (Dare2/Okeh)
17 Gregory Porter – Liquid Spirit (Blue Note)
18= Craig Taborn – Chants (ECM)
18= Wallace Roney – Understanding (High Note)

TSJ selection is still reliably great. Nevospitannyy, Pata Pata and Damaso in particular.

The Haim album is possibly my favourite of the year but I agree that it doesn't seem quite like AOTY material. Then again I don't think I've heard an album this year that immediately struck me as a legit classic like Kaleidoscope Dream or Let England Shake.

It occurred to me the other day that the ILM Top 10 albums could end up being almost entirely comprised of shiny pop-rock and pop-country.

I think it will be fascinating this year because there's so little consensus in the lists and the ones that are cropping up a lot so far aren't ILX favourites. From my own top 10 I can see Vampire Weekend, John Grant, Haim and Kacey doing well but I'm not sure what else will place.

I thought people liked that Disclosure album

I figure Haim, Kanye, Daft Punk are tpp 5 shoo ins

i'd've thought MBV would do well but coming out so early in the year probably hurts its chances.