i am thinking they are really loud but the talk of people vomiting due to the volume and stuff like that is a lot of hype.
During the soundcheck at a Coachella warm-up show several years back, one of the venue staff suffered a seizure and paramedics were summoned. Those of us in line took it as a sign that the show was going to be pretty special.
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 01:19 (ten years ago) link
I have fond memories of three electric fans and finally two roadie-waved cardboard sheets trying to calm down a self-immolating Vox AC30 from Kevin's rig at the Melbourne ATP this year.
― MatthewK, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 02:58 (ten years ago) link
not trying to sound hard here but when I saw them this summer I didn't need earplugs. although maybe that's cos my hearing is fucked anyway
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 08:50 (ten years ago) link
what you say?
― OutdoorFish, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 11:13 (ten years ago) link
When I saw them in Denver this summer it honestly sounded better with earplugs. It also didn't seem that loud when they started, but trust me, it's loud. I think they either increased the volume gradually throughout the show or just the lack of dynamics/constant volume might have added up to almost physically exhausting me and my ears. Also, my sternum felt like it was rattling around in my ribcage during the holocaust section and afterwards.
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 14:09 (ten years ago) link
stoked for the madness
― ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 14:26 (ten years ago) link
they def slowly cranked the volume last time i saw em, the last three songs were v v loud.
i tend to alternate earplugs/no earplugs at noise shows. any tickling sensation and i'll put plugs in. it's fun to move about the venue a bit, this seems to be especially true with MBV, sounds quite different depending on where you're standing.
― Crackle Box, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 15:26 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, they cranked the volume slowly when we saw them. By YMMR it was really quite amazing.
― I can still taste the Taboo in my mouth when I hear those songs (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 29 October 2013 15:52 (ten years ago) link
new interview: http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2013/10/an_interview_wi_86.html
― global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 17:53 (ten years ago) link
this has already been talked abt in a couple of other threads.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 15 July 2003 11:26 (10 years ago) Permalink
― OutdoorFish, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 18:04 (ten years ago) link
Do you have a preference to indoor or outdoor shows? Your last NYC-area shows were outside at All Points West.Yeah, that was interesting. Thousands of Tool fans screaming at us, they didn't understand what was happening. They were very upset and offended. It was pretty amusing. I just remembered the audience -- it was that rare perfect sound, with 50% of the crowd cheering you and the other half screaming for you to get off stage.
Yeah, that was interesting. Thousands of Tool fans screaming at us, they didn't understand what was happening. They were very upset and offended. It was pretty amusing. I just remembered the audience -- it was that rare perfect sound, with 50% of the crowd cheering you and the other half screaming for you to get off stage.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 18:24 (ten years ago) link
I love that his family loves his stuff!
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 18:36 (ten years ago) link
i just love how sensory kevin shields interviews are, like the parts in the mcgonigal book about him & his sister when he was a kid. or like in this, when I moved to Ireland, it took me a long time to see things as real there. Reality was somewhere else, where we left, like this is so redolent of relocation for me. also i love that the absence of modern press shots has elevated this garycoleman.jpg to his new headshot
http://www.brooklynvegan.com/img/thumbs/45400.jpg
― schlump, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 18:55 (ten years ago) link
I don't know about vomiting, but I have a friend who had to leave during You Made Me Realise because it was making her nauseous.
I've become a bit of an advocate for wearing earplugs to shows in general, so I certainly wouldn't risk it with MBV. Hearing is much too precious. With the right earplugs, the music can sound just as clear but at a safer volume.
― Ex Slacker, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 23:36 (ten years ago) link
what about those ear protectors workmen wear?
― OutdoorFish, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 23:44 (ten years ago) link
I’ve said it a million times before, but any music man who listens to loud PAs, live or clubs needs to get proper moulded earplugs like these http://www.etymotic.com/hp/erme.html or these http://www.acscustom.com/uk/ . Yes they cost a little, but imagine not being able to listen to music when you are older? Not to mention the cost of hearing aids which you will need to wear all the time, not just for a few hours a week Best investment you will make.
― Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 19:24 (ten years ago) link
music FAN
http://filmint.nu/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/music-man1.jpg
― ͼѾͽ (sic), Wednesday, 30 October 2013 19:46 (ten years ago) link
Seeing MBV in Glasgow back in 2008, there were lots of tough people down the front without plugs, all "yaaaaah bring it on yah noisy cunts i'm a mad hard bastard"
I wonder if now many of them kind of wish they were deid
― PaulTMA, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 20:07 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymhsb_5vRLg
― OutdoorFish, Wednesday, 30 October 2013 20:45 (ten years ago) link
20 years ago I wouldn't have believed I would see MBV live, but I did last night. I'm a pretty happy guy today.
― fields of salmon, Thursday, 7 November 2013 15:55 (ten years ago) link
How long was the "holocaust" section?
― Treeship, Thursday, 7 November 2013 16:05 (ten years ago) link
Got to find another name for that..
― Mark G, Thursday, 7 November 2013 16:06 (ten years ago) link
I agree
― Treeship, Thursday, 7 November 2013 16:08 (ten years ago) link
Yeah. How about 'volcano'?
― I can still taste the Taboo in my mouth when I hear those songs (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 7 November 2013 16:12 (ten years ago) link
the ear protector testing section
― OutdoorFish, Thursday, 7 November 2013 16:13 (ten years ago) link
it was maybe 7 mins in chicago
― ᶓ͠סּᴥ͠סּᶔ ᶓͼ᷆ₓͼ᷇ᶔ (gr8080), Thursday, 7 November 2013 16:42 (ten years ago) link
LOL
― Master of Treacle, Friday, 8 November 2013 13:14 (ten years ago) link
MBV hooligan front
― Master of Treacle, Friday, 8 November 2013 13:17 (ten years ago) link
Yes they cost a little, but imagine not being able to listen to music when you are older?
What's more: if ear damage were limited to hearing loss that would be one thing...problem is the lack of input tends to get compensated for by non-stop high-frequency ringing (i.e., tinnitus). Seriously, not fun. Sorry to be a party-pooper, but it's my duty as one of the resident geezers to warn all you kids.
― never have i been a blue calm sea (collardio gelatinous), Friday, 8 November 2013 15:11 (ten years ago) link
I thought the earplugs and warning signs plastered around the venue were hype until the genocide volcano part of YMMR.
― disgruntled punter (Je55e), Friday, 8 November 2013 18:50 (ten years ago) link
my ears feel strong and resilient. i think i will be fine on saturday.
― Treeship, Friday, 8 November 2013 18:52 (ten years ago) link
I had some hifi earplugs, but I lost one of them about 3/4 of the way through the show and used one of the foam ones provided at the venue.
Sound quality was much better w/ the fancy ones, but the huge difference was in hearing loss. Afterward, the ear w/ the cheap foam plug sounded muffled and I kept trying to make it pop. The other ear was pretty much normal.
― disgruntled punter (Je55e), Friday, 8 November 2013 19:08 (ten years ago) link
be sure to say to yourself "i'm invincible!" on your way into the venue
― reckless woo (Z S), Friday, 8 November 2013 19:14 (ten years ago) link
i think i will actually wear hearing aids to the concert. crank the volume up a little bit.
― Treeship, Friday, 8 November 2013 19:22 (ten years ago) link
Took my earplugs out for about a minute during YMMR and it was absolutely unbearable.
― Van Horn Street, Friday, 8 November 2013 19:37 (ten years ago) link
Just a few minutes ago I noticed that I was tagged in this pic
https://scontent-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1390726_10201677302788654_179499539_n.jpg
― disgruntled punter (Je55e), Friday, 8 November 2013 19:40 (ten years ago) link
I've had tinnitus since I was 21 and for a while it provoked almost panic attack-level anxiety. I had read an interview with Pete Townshend where he said that tinnitus "made him want to kill himself" and I imagined a progressively worsening high-pitched wine that would eventually block out all other sounds and make sleep impossible. Really, it's pretty much fine. It's just like having a TV tuned to nothing on in the background wherever you go. It just sounds like electronics or AC power and really, when are we not surrounded by these things anyway? Alcohol worsens the effects of tinnitus, but also knocks you out before the tinnitus can keep you awake, so it kind of doesn't matter.
I'm not sure I was so bothered by the loudness of MBV. I think my ears have already pretty much ruled out any of the frequencies being played.
― fields of salmon, Friday, 8 November 2013 20:08 (ten years ago) link
Really, it's pretty much fine.
YMMV to the extreme when it comes to this disorder, as other threads on ilx will attest.
― Linda Darmstadt (Jon Lewis), Friday, 8 November 2013 20:23 (ten years ago) link
can you get tinnitus from one mbv concert? how often do you need to be exposed to extremely loud noises to get this?
― tɹi.ʃɪp (Treeship), Friday, 8 November 2013 20:25 (ten years ago) link
is it the "ultimate souvenir"?
Tinnitus is not just chronic, it's also the short-term ringing in your ears after loud shows. So yes, you can get it from just 1 show.
― disgruntled punter (Je55e), Friday, 8 November 2013 21:17 (ten years ago) link
There are ppl who got it permanently from being near a single gunshot or explosion. Dunno if one concert length exposure could induce a permanent effect or not. It's probably happened.
― Pressgang Wolf (Jon Lewis), Friday, 8 November 2013 22:24 (ten years ago) link
as a tinnitus sufferer, I do not recommend adopting the "one time won't hurt" attitude
― sleeve, Friday, 8 November 2013 22:33 (ten years ago) link
Seeing Curve on the Cuckoo tour was my scared straight moment w.r.t. wearing earplugs. I may not always wear them, but I do take them with me to shows just in case.
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 8 November 2013 22:55 (ten years ago) link
― "Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 9 November 2013 17:55 (ten years ago) link
http://www.amazon.com/Etymotic-Research-ETY-Plugs-Protection-Earplugs/dp/B0044DEESS/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1384021670&sr=8-2&keywords=earplugs Are these good enough? I've heard the free ones they give out are more protective but I don't know.
― tɹi.ʃɪp (Treeship), Saturday, 9 November 2013 18:28 (ten years ago) link
those Ety earplugs are what I use and in my opinion they're as good as you can get if you aren't going to have something custom made. they did the job for MBV.
― fffv, Saturday, 9 November 2013 19:27 (ten years ago) link
Wow,I saw Curve at least three times, but I don't remember them as remotely unbearable. Nowhere near MBV a couple of years ago.
Most ear ringing shows I've seen otherwise were arena metal. NIN in 94, Metallica in ... 98?
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 9 November 2013 19:56 (ten years ago) link
crowded house, woodface era
― OutdoorFish, Saturday, 9 November 2013 20:23 (ten years ago) link