Mary Timony

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Really like the new song, but the melody is insanely familiar. Crimson & Clover? Something else?

She played a really fun set of all Prince covers at the Black Cat 20th Anniversary thing with members of Shudder to Think and GVSB. I hope somebody recorded it.

Walter Galt, Thursday, 10 October 2013 09:27 (ten years ago) link

I should have Googled it first!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyio6NTZq_M

Walter Galt, Thursday, 10 October 2013 09:28 (ten years ago) link

Wish I had seen the Black cat anniversary gig

curmudgeon, Thursday, 10 October 2013 15:14 (ten years ago) link

>>Really like the new song, but the melody is insanely familiar. Crimson & Clover? Something else?

Sounds like a riff that's been used many times over the years. Superdrag came to mind of all things, especially the guitar solo/melodies on "Sucked Out" / "Destination Ursa Major"

Michael F Gill, Thursday, 10 October 2013 22:36 (ten years ago) link

Baba O'Riley? Toto's I'll Supply The Love? I think the bridge from My Sharona is in there as well.

doug watson, Thursday, 10 October 2013 23:40 (ten years ago) link

Songs with the Baba O'Riley Chord Progression

xp: damnit

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 10 October 2013 23:42 (ten years ago) link

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/artsdesk/music/2013/10/17/one-track-mind-ex-hex-hot-and-cold/

Timony says she derived “Hot and Cold” partly from Tommy James and the Shondells’ 1968 hit, “Crimson and Clover.” But she also extracted inspiration from a shiny new toy: her 1977 Les Paul Special. “I have a new guitar and I’m really psyched about it,” she says. “It just sounds a lot different from my other guitars so all these [new] songs come from that.”

curmudgeon, Thursday, 17 October 2013 18:55 (ten years ago) link

three months pass...

The new Ex Hex tune streaming at Pitchfork is great. So happy she's back without Wild Flag.

http://pitchfork.com/news/53800-mary-timony-helium-wild-flag-s-new-band-ex-hex-shares-single-hot-and-cold-announces-tour/

EZ Snappin, Monday, 3 February 2014 15:51 (ten years ago) link

To answer my own question from three months ago...

Really like the new song, but the melody is insanely familiar. Crimson & Clover? Something else?

The part of the verse starting at :18 seconds was killing me, but it's the "It was only fantasy / the wall was too high, as you can see / no matter how he tried, He could not break free..." part of "Hey You" by Pink Floyd that was itchin' me

Walter Galt, Monday, 3 February 2014 17:12 (ten years ago) link

one month passes...

http://brightestyoungthings.com/articles/byt-interviews-ex-hex.htm

They're gonna record their album with Mitch Easter

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 21:41 (ten years ago) link

mary timony/helium/etc

other thread

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 21:45 (ten years ago) link

Saw Ex-Hex live last night. As I noted in the Capital Swamp DC thread--Ex-Hex are going for a 70s glam meets Runaways rawk sound. Mostly fun too. Timony and company looked like they were enjoying themselves. A 70s Nick Gilder cover as one of the encores...

curmudgeon, Thursday, 6 March 2014 16:14 (ten years ago) link

that's awesome. i'd be up for some more knotty/proggy stuff but i will buy whatever she's selling

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 6 March 2014 16:23 (ten years ago) link

In that Brightest Young Things interview above she spells out more where is guitar-wise these days

You cite Sweeney Todd and Roxy Music songs as touchstones for the group. What about glam rock appeals to you at this point in your career?

With this group of songs, I was thinking a lot about what music sounded like when I was in fourth or fifth grade and getting into songs on the radio. I was trying to write songs that would fit on Casey Kasem’s Top 40.
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Wild Flag was incredibly fun. I learned a lot from being in that band, like how to be a better songwriter. I started playing in standard tuning on my guitar again, which was kind of informed the direction of this band. I used to always play in a Drop D tuning, with the B string – the second string – being tuned down, which gives you chords that sound a little different. It gives you a lot of nice chords and stuff. But now I’m playing in standard tuning, so all of the chords are pretty normal, I guess. [Laughs] That came from my time in Wild Flag. It’s made me approach the guitar neck in a different way.

And I think that Janet is a really talented kind of producer. That was her role in the band. I was really trying to write songs for Wild Flag that would work for the band and she help me think of songs that were catchier or whatever. Some of these [Ex Hex] songs come out of that mainframe, for sure. They’re more poppy than stuff I was doing before Wild Flag.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 6 March 2014 17:21 (ten years ago) link

where she is guitar-wise these days

curmudgeon, Thursday, 6 March 2014 17:21 (ten years ago) link

they're playing Baltimore tonight, may go if i have the energy for it

he always came across as a great guy in Kerrang! in the 90s (some dude), Thursday, 6 March 2014 17:39 (ten years ago) link

A 70s Nick Gilder cover as one of the encores...

...and a Slant 6 cover as another one (according to my pal who was there)!

Walter Galt, Thursday, 6 March 2014 22:25 (ten years ago) link

How'd I not recognize that. Guess it's been awhile since I listened to Slant 6.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 6 March 2014 22:34 (ten years ago) link

You can hear the cover here (it's very faithful):

http://www.rookiemag.com/2013/11/theme-song-ex-hex/

Walter Galt, Thursday, 6 March 2014 23:56 (ten years ago) link

Oh yeah

curmudgeon, Friday, 7 March 2014 04:58 (ten years ago) link

Certain songs sounded less mid-70ish and that was one

curmudgeon, Friday, 7 March 2014 15:14 (ten years ago) link

Ian Svenonius as an unearthed Kevin McDonald Kids in the Hall character is a video concept I full support.

fffv, Wednesday, 19 March 2014 03:50 (ten years ago) link

fully, even.

fffv, Wednesday, 19 March 2014 03:53 (ten years ago) link

six months pass...

The whole Ex Hex album is streaming at NPR. On first listen this is one of the best records of the year.

http://www.npr.org/2014/09/28/350589315/first-listen-ex-hex-rips

EZ Snappin, Monday, 29 September 2014 13:47 (nine years ago) link

was just looking for a rolling thread to post this in but hey, there's a Timony thread!

anyway, yeah: this slays

alpine static, Monday, 29 September 2014 18:58 (nine years ago) link

my fuzzy recollection is that ILM's general response to the high placement of Wild Flag (who I didn't like) in that year's P&J was "wtf is Wild Flag?" :\

alpine static, Monday, 29 September 2014 19:16 (nine years ago) link

I had zero use for Wild Flag but this rules.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 29 September 2014 19:42 (nine years ago) link

I liked the Wild Flag song that sounded most like a Timony song ("Glass Tambourine," I think).

JoeStork, Monday, 29 September 2014 20:14 (nine years ago) link

yeah this is cool.

akm, Monday, 29 September 2014 20:22 (nine years ago) link

i have never heard Helium. what does Helium sound like? like this?

alpine static, Monday, 29 September 2014 21:05 (nine years ago) link

Timony has a pretty consistent sound, though it varies in rockingness.

Immediate Follower (NA), Monday, 29 September 2014 21:15 (nine years ago) link

what ever happened to her?? what made her lose the finely crafted 'dirty Helium' and go into 'rainbow land Helium'?
i dont know if you've noticed the trend of hipsters going folky, but i think mary was ahead of the game on this one. now she's back to rocking more,

curmudgeon, Monday, 29 September 2014 21:24 (nine years ago) link

Kinda sucks that if you bought the EP on iTunes, those songs don't carry over to the LP, meaning that you'd have to re-buy those tracks as part of the whole album. Minor gripe, though, I suppose. Listening to the whole on NPR now.

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 11:52 (nine years ago) link

Nevermind - the versions on the LP are different than on the EP.

RAP GAME SHANI DAVIS (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 12:06 (nine years ago) link

Even Helium varied from record to record. The Dirt of Luck is more or less basic indie rock while The Magic City is close to a prog album.

bippity bup at the hotel california (Phil D.), Tuesday, 30 September 2014 13:03 (nine years ago) link

I really like this so far. I always liked Timony a lot as both a guitarist and singer but there was never a Helium record that really nailed it for me, and I wasn't grabbed by Wild Flag either.

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 20:51 (nine years ago) link

i like the proggy Helium the best.

this new one is good, confirming my suspicion that most of the stuff i liked about Wild Flag was her

u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 21:19 (nine years ago) link

For me Magic City didn't stick. I really loved Dirt of Luck but have been bad about revisiting that one, too.

Evan, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 21:23 (nine years ago) link

DIRT OF LUCK FOREVER

― maura, Wednesday, October 30, 2013 5:53 AM (11 months ago)

mookieproof, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 23:31 (nine years ago) link

whoa i haven't thought about her since... 2001? nice to know she's still at it.

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 1 October 2014 23:34 (nine years ago) link

This new one is produced by Mitch Easter, who I just read also co-produced 1997’s The Magic City, the second album by Helium, Timony’s second band.

curmudgeon, Thursday, 2 October 2014 14:02 (nine years ago) link

Really digging 'Waterfall' off this record atm

nxd, Monday, 13 October 2014 10:32 (nine years ago) link

I had zero use for Wild Flag but this rules.

This is so weird to me - Timony's Wild Flag tunes could pretty much easily be sequenced into this album! Black Tiles, Electric Band, even Glass Tambourine

Your Ribs are My Ladder, Monday, 13 October 2014 10:42 (nine years ago) link

this album rules. she rules. hard to believe people still overlook her -- every bit the guitar hero j mascis, s malkmus, and d martsch are. she's traveled so many styles too

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 13 October 2014 14:58 (nine years ago) link

yeah was gonna say i said upthread made me realize that all the good wild flag songs were timony

u2 removal machine (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 13 October 2014 15:07 (nine years ago) link

Problem with Wild Flag was never Timony. Her songs are fine, but not enough to make listening to the band worthwhile.

EZ Snappin, Monday, 13 October 2014 15:11 (nine years ago) link


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