"Ether" vs. "Takeover"

Me too. I've always liked how Jay uses the first verse to set himself up as an unassailable force before he starts calling names, between that and the beat, which is some knocking-down-the-doors (npi) shit, "Takeover" sounds overwhelmingly confident, whereas "Ether" sounds withdrawn and petty.

jay-z had but 2 good lines in that whole half-dope gayne west track jack (every song he produced is overshadowed by what he stole ftw)

al: rewind, one mic-- jay needs a ghost writer in light of those trx that nas never cld have writ unless he banged some smack

ether is better than any jay song except hard knock life cuz of the chorus, u fucktards

nobody interjects shit within the chorus. that shit's crazy as a motherfucker

even though it's all gastfaced and shit. nas and jay both suck ass

except d'evils and very select moments from illmatic.

stop im-ing yourself.

al: rewind, one mic-- jay needs a ghost writer in light of those trx that nas never cld have writ unless he banged some smack

-- luriqua, Saturday, 25 August 2007 07:26 (5 hours ago) Link

^^^ truth

ether is hardly the only joint remembered off stillmatic + the other joints remembered off blueprint are bullshit like girls girls girls & renegade

you're da man, what goes around, the flyest

i dunno if youre being funny or whatever but 'the flyest' is hot

those are other trax beside one mic and ether that i like

</nas stan>

one mic is fuckin next level tho

fuck man, i like got urself a gun

http://g-ec2.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/66/38/96d1729fd7a0331db6d5e010._AA240_.L.jpg

rappers who freestyled over 'ether'

soulja slim
lil wayne
jeezy

rappers who freestyled over 'takeover'

camron
dude from linkin park

i'm glad gabbneb weighed in on this

where is gabbs sister souljah moment

the best jay diss ever was this track jaz did a few years ago, i only foudn it on some weirdo jay z fan site that would post streams of everything in the world even tangentially related to rocafella. anyway fuck jaz broke it down pretty hard....he's probably like the most underrated rapper ever. i liked that kingz county thing he put out a few years ago.

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/writers/jenn_sterger/07/04/mailbag/p1_entourage.jpg

L-R: gabbneb, and what, am0n

wait, can you guys afford cable?

http://www.lappeenranta.fi/images/20060316104526.jpg

What's sad is I love you 'cause you're my brother
You traded your soul for riches

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3bANUSYOys

leaving for rock the bells soon! i hope nas does ether maybe that will change my opinion.

"Cause the nigga wear a coofie, it don't mean that he bright
Cause you don't understand him, it don't mean that he nice
It just means you don't understand all the bullshit that he write
Is it "Oochie Wally Wally" or is it "One Mic"?
Is it "Black Girl Lost" or shorty owe you for ice?"

uh, that should be "kufi" obv.

haha 'coofie'

uffie

Uffie Smacker

am0n otm about good tracks on stillmatic, i also like 2nd childhood

lol Dom

haha 'coofie'

-- deej, Saturday, 25 August 2007 20:00 (Yesterday) Link

c&p from lyrics site busted

i figured, its just a funny misspelling

Stillmatic = tracks 5-8 + "What Goes Around"

Or actually, that's me several years ago talking. I don't trust any opinion I formed prior to the past couple years. I need to reevaluate.

^

the other joints remembered off blueprint are bullshit like girls girls girls & renegade

Aw come on, I still hear Izzo and Heart of the City more than anything else (and Hola Hovito = most underrated Timbaland track???).

title track

Aw come on, I still hear Izzo and Heart of the City more than anything else (and Hola Hovito = most underrated Timbaland track???).

-- Jordan, Monday, August 27, 2007 1:51 AM

I also bump U Don't Know & The Ruler's Back on the regular.

And "All I Need"

"Song Cry" <-

Oh, and both "Girls, Girls, Girls" & "Renagade" are GREAT.

I will rep for Em on Renegade, but I can not in good conscience ride for Girls Girls Girls or Jay's verse on Renegade.

Your conscience is, like, broken or something.

jigga that nigga-> heart of the city

also, girls girls girls is hilarious

I got this paranoid chick, she's scared to come to the house
A hypochondriac who says ouch before I whip it out
Got a chick from Peru, that sniff Peru
She got a cousin at customs that get shit through
Got this weedhead chick, she always catch me doin shit
Crazy girl wanna leave me but she always forgets
Got this Chinese chick, had to leave her quick'
Cause she kept bootleggin my shit - man
I got this African chick with Eddie Murphy on her skull
She like, "Jigga Man, why you treat me like animal?"
I'm like excuse me Ms. Fufu, but when I met your ass
you was dead broke and naked, and now you want half

take that shit to the encyclopedia of racist products thread

A did you live in milwaukee/minneapolis??

lol damn fine challop there as i just had to delete a longass post about how wrong it is

"ether" isn't and never was a good song. it's vicious, sure, but if you remove the homophobia there are maybe four bars left

slowly loading up this ammo
To explode it on a camel

My child, I've watched you grow up to be famous
And now I smile like a proud dad, watching his only son that made it
You seem to be only concerned with dissing women
Were you abused as a child, scared to smile, they called you ugly?
Well life is hard, hug me, don't reject me

Nas has been horrible for 24 years or so. The gross misogyny. The absence of humor. The guy is a cancer on hip hop.