Oh nooooo that sucks! I love her playing on Art Bears and that David Thomas record so much!
― i believe we can c.h.u.d. all night (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 19 September 2013 02:01 (ten years ago) link
oh shit, that's sad news
― i'll be your mraz (NickB), Thursday, 19 September 2013 06:13 (ten years ago) link
RIP. First time I encountered her playing would've been on Children of God by Swans, still one of my all-time fave albs.
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 19 September 2013 07:43 (ten years ago) link
Never made the connection back in '87 when Children of God came out. It was only when I was comparing that record with the first Comus album on ilx that Marcello pointed out to me that *she played with both bands*!
― i'll be your mraz (NickB), Thursday, 19 September 2013 08:41 (ten years ago) link
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=95270
― i'll be your mraz (NickB), Thursday, 19 September 2013 09:13 (ten years ago) link
RIP Lindsay
― Tommy McTommy (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 September 2013 12:37 (ten years ago) link
Shit. RIP.
― emil.y, Thursday, 19 September 2013 14:09 (ten years ago) link
Had an email about this when I got up, not the best way to start off the day.
Amazing musician, by all accounts a great human being. RIP.
Some live Cow in homage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vfpq11-sRVQ
― alb indys, Thursday, 19 September 2013 14:38 (ten years ago) link
http://alanb.org/ImperfectFifths/fred-friths-gravity-2013-09-20-roulette-nyc-1st-installment-terrain-for-lindsay-cooper/http://somecamerunning.typepad.com/some_came_running/2013/09/lindsay-cooper-1951-2013.html
http://www.nouse.co.uk/wp-content/article_images/body/2010/11/comus.jpg
― Milton Parker, Friday, 27 September 2013 19:23 (ten years ago) link
http://rateyourmusic.com/list/unrest/a_discography_of_lindsay_cooper/...had no idea she was on so much.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 28 September 2013 15:52 (ten years ago) link
thanks for those links! sounds like a good show and a great way to mark her passing. wasn't previously aware of lindsay's friendship with sally potter
― i'll be your mraz (NickB), Saturday, 28 September 2013 16:25 (ten years ago) link
One-off Cow reunion in memory of Lindsay Cooper just announced:
http://www.serious.org.uk/events/info/henry-cow-music-for-films-news-from-babel-and-oh-moscow-play-the-music-of-l
― goth colouring book (anagram), Tuesday, 17 June 2014 22:04 (nine years ago) link
been really broke recently so i haven't been able to get a ticket for the barbican thing yet, but i am seeing the artaud beats at a little local festival tomorrow and i'm pretty excited about that. just watched a few videos and fuck, yumi is a monster
― john wahey (NickB), Friday, 12 September 2014 20:39 (nine years ago) link
Funny, I thought this reunion would have sparked more ILM interest. Anyway, there are now two further concerts, Huddersfield on 22 Nov and Forlì, Italy on 23 Nov.
Cutler talks about Lindsay Cooper and the reunion:
http://www.cloudsandclocks.net/interviews/CC_LC_interview.html
― goth colouring book (anagram), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 13:09 (nine years ago) link
I am very interested, and very frustrated to have no chance in hell of seeing these. I'm psyched to read that interview-- there's not that much talk about Lindsay Cooper online.
― von Daniken Donuts (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 24 September 2014 16:38 (nine years ago) link
Just finished listening to to Western Culture and so also finished the studio box set. Desperate Straights was my favourite by far but it seemed to be far more of a Slapp Happy album than a Henry Cow one. I enjoyed the rest but never really loved them, might have to return to them in years ahead. I did particularly like "Beautiful As The Moon", "Half The Sky" and "Nine Funerals Of The Citizen King". Love Dagmar Krause's voice.
Definitely want to get the Art Bears album.
I once saw Cutler saying that Henry Cow was way more of a live band. Does that mean the live albums are better? I don't think I could go for the two live box sets. Too much.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 10 October 2014 23:21 (nine years ago) link
"concerts" is pretty essential
― I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, 10 October 2014 23:22 (nine years ago) link
Thanks, that was quick.
Arts Bears albumS I should have said above in the middle paragraph.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 10 October 2014 23:25 (nine years ago) link
There's some live HC (maybe SH/HC because Dagmar sings) youtubes that are very good. Search for the ones recorded at a place called Veysey (or Vesey, I think) in Switzerland (or is it France?). It's probably a good hour in total, and includes the "Beautiful as the Moon, Terrible as an Army With Banners" piece from Concerts.
― nickn, Saturday, 11 October 2014 00:28 (nine years ago) link
Art bears in perpetual deadlock with Crimson for my favorite prog band of all time
― a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 11 October 2014 01:03 (nine years ago) link
Vevey, Switzerland. (couldn't do this at work)
― nickn, Saturday, 11 October 2014 06:37 (nine years ago) link
And I see it was linked above last year (couldn't see that at work either).
― nickn, Saturday, 11 October 2014 06:39 (nine years ago) link
The dvd of Vevey was in the Live box set. I haven't heard if any of that box was available separately since, apart from the first disc if you payed on the instalment plan. So even that option may be gone now. Would think they might make more money by having discs available separately especially the dvd which is pretty Recommended, as are the rest of These
― Stevolende, Saturday, 11 October 2014 07:33 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, I'd buy the DVD for sure. Maybe I'll find a box used somewhere.
― nickn, Saturday, 11 October 2014 08:05 (nine years ago) link
I highly recommend the two live Henry Cow boxed sets (40th anniversary) - if you are thinking of splurging, do it. (Same with the Art Bears box.) Studio HC is great, but live HC is insanely awe-inspiring. Bob Drake did an *incredible* job on the sound for the boxes. On this page, Bob talks about the meticulous and painstaking work he did to get the absolute best mix of HC's cover of "We Did It Again": http://www.bordebasse.fr/henrycow/wavs/index.htm
"Somewhere along the way I noticed that the two versions I had of this song were actually two different recordings of the same performance. The one I'll call version 1 sounds like a portable cassette recording from the audience point of view close to the stage. It has a lot of audience reaction, a lot of guitar, thin-sounding drums and bass, and only a faint echo of the vocals. Version 2 sounds like a desk recording and has almost no guitar, but plenty of drums, bass, and vocals. (The sax isn't very present on either.) Once I noticed they were the same performance I thought I could combine them to get the best of both. The tricky thing was that the audience recording runs much faster than the desk recording, and I couldn't simply resample it to the same pitch/speed because it wasn't a consistent difference. You'd immediately hear the flanging effect as the two recordings drifted out of synch. This is always a problem when synching analog recordings so I wasn't surprised, but this was made extra difficult because of the extremely jittery speed of the cassette recording. So I chopped it (version 1) into very short segments of perhaps 1/4 to 1/2 second length, resampling each segment seperately and manually synching them with the desk recording. It took a while, was it worth it...I don't care, I just had to do it!"
― ernestp, Saturday, 11 October 2014 16:43 (nine years ago) link
OH YEAH - ReR is currently having a CD sale - free shipping to the USA as long as you buy at least four. CDs are each five British pounds, which is around $8. http://www.rermegacorp.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Store_Code=RM&Screen=SPECIALOFFERS
Henry Cow's "Stockholm and Goteborg" is part of that sale, so there's a low-cost entry point to the 40th anniversary live boxes. Also, I see two Art Bears discs there.
I just splurged on that sale and got a ton of Bob Drake, Sun Ra, the two News from Babel discs (finally), Lindsay Cooper's "Rags/The Golddiggers," a bunch from The Work (Tim H.'s post-HC band), The Necks, etc. It is absolutely insane how much quality stuff is on that sale list.
― ernestp, Saturday, 11 October 2014 16:53 (nine years ago) link
nice piece by sally potter on lindsay cooper:
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/nov/20/lindsay-cooper-rebel-with-applause
― no lime tangier, Thursday, 20 November 2014 22:28 (nine years ago) link
henry cow reunion, tomorrow night
tim hodgkinson played a concert in SF last week and it was astoundingly good. one solo clarinet, one slide guitar + mixer & toys
― Milton Parker, Thursday, 20 November 2014 23:05 (nine years ago) link
Xpost awesome can't wait to read. There really isn't a lot of substantial stuff about her online.
― a drug by the name of WORLD WITHOUT END (Jon Lewis), Friday, 21 November 2014 00:19 (nine years ago) link
rags is such a great piece of work, really need to seek out her later solo work too (see comments in the link for a certain very familiar name)
― no lime tangier, Friday, 21 November 2014 01:32 (nine years ago) link
Really hoping for some high quality footage/recordings of the reunion show.
― Brad Laner, Friday, 21 November 2014 01:41 (nine years ago) link
London has gone up on d1m3, I expect Huddersfield will go up too, judging by the comments.
― Rita, Sue and Peter Gabriel Two (MaresNest), Monday, 24 November 2014 19:32 (nine years ago) link
Nice to hear but the "News From Babel" portion of the set really blows away the Henry Cow portion. It's kind of weird how Henry Cow specifically got canonized in a way the frequently superior post-Cow projects by various alumni didn't.
― rushomancy, Monday, 24 November 2014 21:59 (nine years ago) link
Henry Cow are just the best so I can't personally agree with that directly. I'd agree that it is kind of weird how News From Babel don't come up more; out of all the post-Cow projects where they really went all in on concise songwriting, Lindsay's tunes are so beautiful
http://avantmusicnews.com/2014/11/22/amn-reviews-henry-cow-and-others-play-the-music-of-lindsay-cooper-nov-21-2014-the-barbicon-london/
― Milton Parker, Monday, 24 November 2014 22:24 (nine years ago) link
A nine-minute piece from one of the shows. I haven't listened to it yet but the fb poster describes it as "A very droney, cathartic piece in a precise, dirty, post-Weillian sort of way - love this stuff."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ay-_QlnQ0Ew
― nickn, Wednesday, 26 November 2014 17:27 (nine years ago) link
That's 'England Descending' from Lindsay's 'Oh Moscow'.
― Milton Parker, Wednesday, 26 November 2014 18:09 (nine years ago) link
xpost you mean you don't have both the remasters and the original early 90's ESD reissues with the remixes? get cracking
― Milton Parker, Friday, February 6, 2009 2:43 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
sadly no, I just got the plebeian remasters box set with the bonus 3" CD instead. excuse me while I go harvest the potatoes for me lord.
― System Jr. (Mackro Mackro), Friday, February 6, 2009 2:50 PM (7 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
This just resulted in the longest, hardest laugh I've had all year. Thanks ILX
― Wimmels, Thursday, 14 April 2016 02:46 (eight years ago) link
Nice version of "Little Red Riding Hood..." with Hodgkinson and Cutler, with Yumi Hara and others.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M0u4JDrhRM&feature=youtu.be
― nickn, Monday, 25 June 2018 04:45 (five years ago) link
? maybe just copy and paste.
― nickn, Monday, 25 June 2018 04:47 (five years ago) link
Oh well, just search for this: Little Red Riding Hood Hit the Road, THE WATTS + Canterbury Favourites
― nickn, Monday, 25 June 2018 04:48 (five years ago) link
incoming...
Incredibly excited to dive into the page proofs for Ben Piekut’s massive “Henry Cow:The World is a Problem,” to be published in September by @DukePress. pic.twitter.com/YAGuZvaxl3— David Grubbs (@blackfaurest) April 12, 2019
― kolarov spring (NickB), Friday, 12 April 2019 21:05 (five years ago) link
Great to hear. Want to read an in depth history of them.
― Stevolende, Friday, 12 April 2019 22:10 (five years ago) link
ben is the man for the job. it'll be interesting to see if it gets into the personal stuff. in the case of a band that lived their politics this intensely, it's never merely gossip, their lives were the work (perhaps I am being sentimental but this is still the only progressive band for me)
― Milton Parker, Saturday, 13 April 2019 01:30 (five years ago) link
More on the book here from Cutler:
http://www.rermegacorp.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=COW+BOOK&Store_Code=RM
― the word dog doesn't bark (anagram), Wednesday, 29 May 2019 11:31 (four years ago) link
I was just wondering if hardbacks tended to be 4x the price of paperbacks but looks like that must be a common question or variations thereof. CC makes some comment beside the hb price on the rer page.
― Stevolende, Monday, 19 August 2019 09:31 (four years ago) link
It's because it's an academic press. Those prices are aimed at university libraries.
― van dyke parks generator (anagram), Monday, 19 August 2019 14:12 (four years ago) link
Just ordered the book from ReR, looking forward to reading it. Also, it seems that there is yet another box set coming out:
HENRY COW SUBSCRIPTION EDITIONHENRY COW BOX REDUX: THE COMPLETE HENRY COW17 CDs, 1 DVD and 180 pages of histories, chronology, testimony and commentaries by the band, sundry contemporary documents, and rare photographs – in a sturdy box.This collection brings together the full contents of the three former boxes, with the addition of a further 60pp booklet of newly unearthed, or commissioned, band commentaries, pictures and other documents prepared specifically for this release - as well as re-mastered versions of all the studio CDs and the rare bonus CD (Cabinet of Curiosities), which came with the subscription edition of the original boxed set. Subscribers only will also receive an extra numbered edition subscription CD of more newly recovered, discovered and previously unreleased recordings.Content summary:Newly designed and packaged set of 18 CDs and one DVD covering the entire career of the band - re-mastered by Bob Drake. Plus extra subscription-only CD of further rarities.
HENRY COW BOX REDUX: THE COMPLETE HENRY COW
17 CDs, 1 DVD and 180 pages of histories, chronology, testimony and commentaries by the band, sundry contemporary documents, and rare photographs – in a sturdy box.
This collection brings together the full contents of the three former boxes, with the addition of a further 60pp booklet of newly unearthed, or commissioned, band commentaries, pictures and other documents prepared specifically for this release - as well as re-mastered versions of all the studio CDs and the rare bonus CD (Cabinet of Curiosities), which came with the subscription edition of the original boxed set. Subscribers only will also receive an extra numbered edition subscription CD of more newly recovered, discovered and previously unreleased recordings.
Content summary:
Newly designed and packaged set of 18 CDs and one DVD covering the entire career of the band - re-mastered by Bob Drake. Plus extra subscription-only CD of further rarities.
― van dyke parks generator (anagram), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 16:21 (four years ago) link
Dang
― drunk on hot toddies (morrisp), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 16:52 (four years ago) link
Yeah, just reading the book and it said that the 40th anniversary set had long since sold out but Cutler was working on a new version. Hope i can pick up the extra bits somehow since I have the Road box at least.Need to listen to the Beginnings disc .
Got as far as the era that covers so far. hadn't known how many drummers they had before CC or how the band formed.
― Stevolende, Thursday, 17 October 2019 16:20 (four years ago) link
Looks like few places have the book. I missed getting the thing through Book Depository which is probably the cheapest if you're outside the UK, had to get it through The Wire's shop.
Think it got back into the Book Depositary while i was waiting for it to arrive. Had been saying No longer available or something to that effect.
― Stevolende, Thursday, 17 October 2019 16:22 (four years ago) link