What are people's favourite dancehall rhythms of the year or so...

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alternatively i'll just do a full traclist and post it, then you can hunt them down yrself

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Sunday, 2 May 2004 11:49 (twenty years ago) link

here it is. needless to say, i wholeheartedly endorse all the below!

The Great Bashment Giveaway #1

Tunda Klap
Tekk - Vybz Kartel
Combining - Kid Kurupt
It's On Tonight - Ce'Cile
Dreamweaver
Visa - Vybz Kartel
Propaganda - Bling Dawg
Girls Alone - Assassin
Hindu Storm
I Always Think About You - Sizzla
Bless & Protect - Spragga Benz
Fashion - Vybz Kartel
Perilous
She’s My Baby - Capleton
Indian Gal - Elephant Man & Busta Rhymes
New Year New Fuck – Ce’Cile
Red Alert
Only Takes Love - Sizzla
Never Leave You Lonely - Mr Vegas feat. Irish Man
Don’t Trespass - Lady Saw
Mad Sick - Predator
Coolie Dance
Genie Dance - Elephant Man
Give It To Me – Ce’Cile
Unknown Language - T.O.K
Mad Instruments
Ah Wi Gal Dem - Zumjay
Real Badman - Vybz Kartel
Hotta Fire - T.O.K

The Great Bashment Giveaway #2

French Vanilla
Style Ya Want - Tanya Stephens
Do Your Thing – Alozade
Girls Gone Wild - Assassin
Wanted
Mr. Wuk More - Bounty Killer
The Streetz - Spragga Benz
Gal You A Lead - T.O.K
Marmalade
Why - Ward 21
Whole World - Predator
Cut Yuh Speed - Vybz Kartel
Pop It Off - Tanya Stephens
Blackout
Picture Me And You - Vybz Kartel
Gyal Role Call - Bounty Killer
Want Something Strong - Kid Kurrupt
Time Travel
Head Up High - Bling Dawg
Roll In - Assassin
Share My Dreams - Chrissy D
Tundra
Hype - Vybz Kartel
Bad Mind - Round Head
Live Up - Sizzla
Trifecta
Mi Want It - Tanto Metro & Devonte
Breeda - Bounty Killer
Pretty Pussy - Lady Saw
She's A Ho - T.O.K

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Sunday, 2 May 2004 15:12 (twenty years ago) link

dave: don't suppose you'd do this for a poor, broke slskless aussie 100kms from the nearest semi decent record shop too?

mullygrubber (gaz), Sunday, 2 May 2004 21:41 (twenty years ago) link

HAS ANYBODY HEARD PARADISE RIDDIM? It's based around "Gangsta's Paradise". Check out Gailann's "Let You Know" and Ghetto Flex's "Jouvert Paradise"

C0L1N B3CK3TT (Colin Beckett), Sunday, 2 May 2004 21:46 (twenty years ago) link

Colin/Mully, there's a good Melbourne store on Johnston St Fitzroy that stocks a lot of international stuff including dancehall but I can't remember it's name right now. Anyway it's right near The Laundry. But they only get CDs and even then only a few months after the fact, and expect to pay typical import prices. I end up getting all my stuff from the internet yeah and then will crack and fork out for albums/comps.

Dave do you still even want that comp I was gonna make for you? You seem to have everything I have and more.

PS. Everyone's got mad love for "Picture Me & You" and yeah it is a great cut but I secretly love Vybz's other version "Real Badman Nevr Afraid" just as much - some really great on-point rhyming over the staccato string section in this one.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 2 May 2004 22:25 (twenty years ago) link

dance music sux

CAss (CAss), Sunday, 2 May 2004 22:26 (twenty years ago) link

thanx tim...i'm about 100kms north of sydney though! there's Unsound but those one rhythm discs are like $46!!!!

mullygrubber (gaz), Sunday, 2 May 2004 22:28 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah I feel you, there's no way I can justify buying rhythm albums at the prices you're expected to pay over here.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 2 May 2004 22:33 (twenty years ago) link

and theyre so repetitive. why would anyone wanna hear the same words and beats for like 5 min. pointless

CAss (CAss), Sunday, 2 May 2004 22:36 (twenty years ago) link

bad day CAss?

mullygrubber (gaz), Sunday, 2 May 2004 22:44 (twenty years ago) link

no...bad few days.

CAss (CAss), Sunday, 2 May 2004 22:45 (twenty years ago) link

you can use the sheepfuxors thread to whinge if you like. leave these poor folk alone ;-)

mullygrubber (gaz), Sunday, 2 May 2004 22:48 (twenty years ago) link

why would i go there? i can 'whinge' where i want you can go somewhere else and be bitchy and stupid though

CAss (CAss), Sunday, 2 May 2004 22:51 (twenty years ago) link

i was actually trying to be nice. whatever.

mullygrubber (gaz), Sunday, 2 May 2004 22:53 (twenty years ago) link

well if that what you call being nice then i feel sorry for you.

CAss (CAss), Sunday, 2 May 2004 22:57 (twenty years ago) link

CAss, Mullygrubber was being perfectly reasonable. Barging in to a thread and dismissing its contents is one thing, but this thread isn't even about dance music (dancehall is kinda like a Jamaican fusion of reggae and rap).

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 2 May 2004 23:07 (twenty years ago) link

oh ok. i didnt know that. but thats crap also .

CAss (CAss), Sunday, 2 May 2004 23:08 (twenty years ago) link

So strange that someone who professes to be into punk would dismiss other music as being overly repetitive.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 2 May 2004 23:25 (twenty years ago) link

not really cause punk is not at all repetitive. NOT AT ALL ACTUALLY WHAT THE HEL ARE YOU SAYING.

CAss (CAss), Sunday, 2 May 2004 23:27 (twenty years ago) link

I declare you a complete fiction.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 2 May 2004 23:35 (twenty years ago) link

i meant repetitive as in repeating the same line throughout the whole song. obvioulsy you dont know much about punk music. cuz its not at all repetitive.

CAss (CAss), Sunday, 2 May 2004 23:41 (twenty years ago) link

Oh you meant the special kind of repetitive. Not the same themes, same words, same chords, same beat, same bassline repeated over and over. Not that kind at all.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Sunday, 2 May 2004 23:50 (twenty years ago) link

Colin/Mully, there's a good Melbourne store on Johnston St Fitzroy that stocks a lot of international stuff including dancehall but I can't remember it's name right now. Anyway it's right near The Laundry. But they only get CDs and even then only a few months after the fact, and expect to pay typical import prices. I end up getting all my stuff from the internet yeah and then will crack and fork out for albums/comps.

blue moon? Something like that. They also stock bhangra/reggateon CDs...

If you're interested in buying dancehall vinyl, I can put you on to the guy I go through who imports a couple of hundred 7's every fortnight and is friendly and reasonably priced....

OCP (OCP), Monday, 3 May 2004 00:11 (twenty years ago) link

Ha ha please don't - I'm poor enough as it is and must avoid any and all temptations!

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 3 May 2004 00:30 (twenty years ago) link

i found a reggaeton cd at work the other day! i'm a bit scared to buy it though. it seems a bit...shady.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 3 May 2004 00:31 (twenty years ago) link

Hahha, Jess, is it Reggaeton Jamz?

C0L1N B3CK3TT (Colin Beckett), Monday, 3 May 2004 01:41 (twenty years ago) link

And Tim, don't wanna tempt you further, but there are usually good Greensleeves deals on Ebay ( http://search.ebay.com.au/ws/search/GetResult?button=Search&ht=1&saavailabletocountry=15&satitle=Greensleeves&sbrexp=WD2S&sosortproperty=1&ssPageName=WD2S )

C0L1N B3CK3TT (Colin Beckett), Monday, 3 May 2004 01:43 (twenty years ago) link

What do I have to do to get a copy of that hella awesome lookin' mix up thurr? I can be a really cool e-friend.

djdee2005, Monday, 3 May 2004 01:43 (twenty years ago) link

Don't know if anyone else has already mentioned it, but Thriller Riddim is more great Tunda Klap-ish business.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 3 May 2004 06:08 (twenty years ago) link

Dave was so right about the Trample riddim btw

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 3 May 2004 06:20 (twenty years ago) link

and has anyone heard this Nina Sky track "Move Ya Body Gal", apparently Lumidee part 2 on Coolie Dance?

OCP (OCP), Monday, 3 May 2004 06:26 (twenty years ago) link

(oh, this was meant to come before my last message. Posting issues, whatever.)

is it just me or is dancehall in a bit of a slump right now? Aside from Chrome and Blackout I can't think of any riddim in the last six months that lives up to any of the best stuff from the last year or so (Egyptian, Diwali, Coolie Dance, Fiesta.... almost anything mentioned upthread)... maybe some of the newer stuff is just taking a while to grow on me, but I've not come across any voicings of...anything, really, that have the kind of immediate appeal of Egyptian Dance (or Get With It Girls, Sweet To The Belly, I Will Love The Girls....), Get Busy (or almost ANYTHING on Diwali! the Wayne Marshall, TOK, etc. etc.) or Feel Alright (etc. etc.)

ocp (OCP), Monday, 3 May 2004 06:27 (twenty years ago) link

(oh, and I guess Trifecta should get an honourable mention as a good recent-ish riddim, but even then it's pretty old....)

OCP (OCP), Monday, 3 May 2004 06:28 (twenty years ago) link

Heh, if that's true it'd be great cuz I'd get a chance to try and catch up.

djdee2005, Monday, 3 May 2004 08:24 (twenty years ago) link

i think you're more or less completely wrong, ocp.

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 3 May 2004 11:14 (twenty years ago) link

not being rude or anything, but there's been a lot of good stuff out recently. just look at all the stuff myself tim and mr fassy have posted above. surely that's enough to keep you going!

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 3 May 2004 11:15 (twenty years ago) link

i think we have to be careful with our proximity to this music sometimes, esp what with how much more of our attention we have to put in. (sorry, not to say ocp is a casual new jack or anything btw!) i would sympathise with ocp's position tho, for me it's been much more of a picking off great singles year than albums(=riddims), and the singles ive come to love are on a par with 03 definitely. but the riddims don't evoke that hungry dizzy swirl so much. part of this is the stopstart release schedule this year, like ive grown resentful of french vanilla and marmalade sitting there stagnant for weeks where before they'd be part of the torrent, and you could take them as you please. it makes them feel more like statements rather than sketches and personally i wouldnt try and convince anyone of ragga supremacy with these really

prima fassy (mwah), Monday, 3 May 2004 11:58 (twenty years ago) link

i know its always a singles year for me tho, but this year they just feel like amazing singles and not 03's fond dancefloor synecdoches

prima fassy (mwah), Monday, 3 May 2004 12:02 (twenty years ago) link

yeah i can see your point - i said this back in february, that i was finding stuff a bit patchy both in terms ofquality and most importantly in the way things were being released. still, i'm happy with the good dtuf i've heard this year and alos think that rather than dancehall being in a slump per se, we should maybe think that last year was just an idiotically good one, with everything arriving at the right time, major label interest/confidence at an all-time high, dancehall really fucking swaggering with bomb tune after bomb tune... it was never going to be able to keep that up. also it's worth considering that dancehall having been such a success story lately, whether major-label interest/transatlantic uk-us commercial potential has actualy slowed things up a bit...

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 3 May 2004 12:05 (twenty years ago) link

what i' kinda meant to ocp's statement is that what's good is as good as ever and that i'm still finding this music way better than anything else out ther

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 3 May 2004 12:07 (twenty years ago) link

yeah the blacker dread grinch did grumble that it was all the big labels' fault. i'm not sure i can imagine how true this might be tho, unless it was rather the little labels deciding to be more business minded and trying to play the hype game after last year instead of just flinging stuff out?

i thought nina sky was lumidee at first! but anyway it's not a millionth as good! it sucks for making me remember 03

prima fassy (mwah), Monday, 3 May 2004 12:10 (twenty years ago) link

god, sack my typist - put it down to a bank-holiday hangover... hope the above makes sense. yeah, i think that might be the case re the smaller labels. it certainly appears they're sitting on stuff more and longer

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 3 May 2004 12:11 (twenty years ago) link

i hope its something enchanting like the pressing plants used up all the plastic in jamaica

prima fassy (mwah), Monday, 3 May 2004 12:13 (twenty years ago) link

or dave kelly lost his favourite bouncy ball

prima fassy (mwah), Monday, 3 May 2004 12:15 (twenty years ago) link

or or tamagotchis finally caught on and no one cares about music now

prima fassy (mwah), Monday, 3 May 2004 12:17 (twenty years ago) link

re plastic i don't think that would matter too much, to be honest. mate of mine that i work with is an old don reggae writer and was telling me the other day about them using tyres in pressing plants there. reckons he has a totally unplayable old 7 with grooves and then a big lump of tread on it! there was a story about them doing the same at trax records back in the early, early house days, too. not seen any evidence of either, but don't really care. its a nice story all the same.

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 3 May 2004 12:18 (twenty years ago) link

has to be the tamagotchis

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 3 May 2004 12:18 (twenty years ago) link

pitch it to the times! you'd be a celebrity by the time anyone in jamaica found out

prima fassy (mwah), Monday, 3 May 2004 12:23 (twenty years ago) link

you know, on past record of trying to get broadsheets to take dancehall seriously, i reckon i'd have more chance of that going in than something proper, so i'd rather not try - they'd probably go for it.

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 3 May 2004 12:35 (twenty years ago) link

i think you're more or less completely wrong, ocp.

Dave I don't think it's a matter of being right or wrong! I never claimed to make any kind of absolute statement as much as I was just saying that I haven't really been feeling the newer stuff (and I think I'm fairly up to date...)

OCP (OCP), Monday, 3 May 2004 14:54 (twenty years ago) link


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