Caught this guy's live show last night, it was sonically amazing but really uncomfortable to view, particularly when he was raving and gurning in front of a projection of images of dead soldiers and 9/11 headlines - it felt exploitative. Do I just not get this guy's politics? It was provocative and stirring but it felt a bit cheap and ruined any pleasure from the music itself.
― boxedjoy, Thursday, 4 July 2013 12:21 (ten years ago) link
I saw him live at Sonar and he actually got a bit of dancefloor action going. There weren't any visuals. I don't know if he was doing something a bit different because it was a dance music festival
― paolo, Friday, 5 July 2013 07:40 (ten years ago) link
There was lots of dancing when I saw him! It kinda added to the discomfort I was feeling. Like, the point he was making about de-sensitisation to war imagery and violence fell flat when people were bouncing about and fist-pumping and generally being... de-sensitised. And when it doesn't work all that's left is folk partying alongside images of war casualties and 9/11 headlines.
I'm sure it's just something I don't understand rather than anything intentionally exploitative.
― boxedjoy, Friday, 5 July 2013 08:58 (ten years ago) link
i think his politics involve the intentional exploitation (or at least decontextualization) of sensational politics - in some sense i think he's fascistic (tho w/ more of a nihilistic ends than a political one): 'Mankind, which was in the age of Homer an object of contemplation for the Olympian gods, has now become one for itself. Its self-alienation has reached such a degree that it can experience its own destruction as an aesthetic pleasure of the first order. This is how it stands with the aestheticization of politics that Fascism pursues. Communism responds by politicizing art.' -- he's aestheticizing politics, not politicizing art imho.
― Mordy , Friday, 5 July 2013 13:13 (ten years ago) link
― boxedjoy, Friday, 5 July 2013 09:58 (4 hours ago)
lol
― Jean-Bertrand Aristide (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 5 July 2013 13:18 (ten years ago) link
well sick drop on emir of checjnya despatches emissaries to the caliph there m8s
― Jean-Bertrand Aristide (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Friday, 5 July 2013 13:19 (ten years ago) link
Anybody listening to Rainforest Spiritual Enslavement? I got the new one on Bed of Nails since VS's Bed of Nails release was my favourite of theirs. Boomkat described it as sounding like Porter Ricks which is a bit of an exaggeration. Pleasant enough background music but I was hoping for more.
― Project Witch (I am using your worlds), Wednesday, 21 August 2013 16:54 (ten years ago) link
01. Circumstances Quickly Became Questioned02. Tonight Saddam Walks Amidst Ruins03. Muscle Hijacker Tribal Affiliation04. Contractor Corpses Hung Over The Euphrates River05. Enter Paradise06. Remember Your Black Day07. Not The Son Of Desert Storm, But The Child Of Chechnya08. Jet Fumes Above The Reflecting Pool
it's on spotify - i like it a lot
― Mordy , Tuesday, 22 October 2013 14:15 (ten years ago) link
esp liked the prayer/chanting on track #7
i like how the only leftfield electronic shit you seem to like is the dude with the middle east geopolitics fetish
― Maggishos soyfriend. Wins. (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 14:17 (ten years ago) link
i like basinski too
― Mordy , Tuesday, 22 October 2013 14:18 (ten years ago) link
ur not wrong tho
i love how william basinski looks complete unlike you would expect a producer of maudlin ambient music to look
http://www.villavillanola.com/suoni/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/william_basinski-par-Thimothy-White-290x300.jpg
― Maggishos soyfriend. Wins. (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 14:20 (ten years ago) link
Might as well have called it "A Tribute to Muslimgauze" with those titles.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 14:21 (ten years ago) link
he is nothing like muslimgauze politically
― Maggishos soyfriend. Wins. (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 14:22 (ten years ago) link
Thankfully, I think nobody is or was.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 14:30 (ten years ago) link
this digression reminds of the mille plateaux record from 2002 called 'walking in jerusalem' by random inc which consists of samples recorded in.....well you can write the rest
― Maggishos soyfriend. Wins. (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 14:33 (ten years ago) link
does Fernow have an actual politics beyond transgressive bro being transgressive?
I'm a big fan of Basinkski's 'third place in a Limahl lookalike contest' thing too.
― Merdeyeux, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 14:33 (ten years ago) link
i tried to get into muslimgauze but it was too hezbollahgauze for me
― Mordy , Tuesday, 22 October 2013 14:34 (ten years ago) link
his whole thing is paratext abstracted from the context that begot it, see the 'exploring jezebel' discogs page
i applaud him
― Maggishos soyfriend. Wins. (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 14:35 (ten years ago) link
a more recent picture of basinski:
http://www.artnet.com/Images/magazine/reviews/yablonsky/manchester-international-festival-7-18-11-14.jpg
― gotta lol geir (NickB), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 14:40 (ten years ago) link
backstage at the manchester evening news arena with william basinski
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 14:41 (ten years ago) link
he's turning into this guy:
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/62381921/Nightcrawlers+Push+The+Feeling+On.png
― gotta lol geir (NickB), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 14:42 (ten years ago) link
is the exploring jezebel stuff intentionally silly?
― the Shearer of simulated snowsex etc. (Dwight Yorke), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 14:45 (ten years ago) link
it's a paratext of the noise music abstracted from its context
― Spectrum, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 15:13 (ten years ago) link
read "hezbollahgauze" as "hezbollahgaze" and was like, nicely done.
― adam, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 15:22 (ten years ago) link
plz give me credit for whatever seems better thx
― Mordy , Tuesday, 22 October 2013 15:37 (ten years ago) link
i'd be down for some hezbollahgaze
― Spectrum, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 15:38 (ten years ago) link
idk if bryn jones supported terrorism outright
― clouds, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 15:40 (ten years ago) link
anyway "contractor corpses" sounds like 1994-era autechre
― clouds, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 15:41 (ten years ago) link
personally i think this music sounds like shit, but what makes it good is the paratext abstracted from its context. that's some pretty good stuff.
― Spectrum, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 15:45 (ten years ago) link
nothing stanton in the way of you making your own cool paratext abstracted from context islamodrone records, burt i guess you have better things to do
― Nilmar Honorato da Silva, Tuesday, 22 October 2013 15:52 (ten years ago) link
fyi my ouvre on ilx is a similarly themed middle east fetishism paratextual art project but in the medium of 'message board textual aesthetics' as opposed to leftfield electronica.
― Mordy , Tuesday, 22 October 2013 15:53 (ten years ago) link
true
― Snipers as a breed tend to be supercilious (Nilmar Honorato da Silva), Tuesday, 22 October 2013 16:03 (ten years ago) link
http://soundinjections.tumblr.com/post/35349961955/vatican-shadow
― Mordy , Saturday, 18 January 2014 23:56 (ten years ago) link
^^that's v good, i need to hear more tbh
― lovely cuddly fluffy dope (imago), Sunday, 19 January 2014 00:47 (ten years ago) link
http://s.pixogs.com/image/R-5759187-1401885690-2892.jpeg
Vatican Shadow – Death Is Unity With God
TracklistFireballA1 Al Qaeda (Branch Davidian) B1 Desert Storm (Waco) B2 It's To Come Enduring MysteriesC1 ATF Sinful Messiah D1 FBI God D2 Koresh Babylon Easing Of Our TaskE1 Fort Hood Again E2 Koresh Lamb E3 Machine-Gunning Of The Davidians F1 Texarkana Resistance Oklahoma Military AcademyG1 Theology Is Life And Death (Pakistan) G2 Descended On Guayanilla (CNN) H1 Arms Of Yahweh H2 Manufactured Silencers Under Direct Orders Elohim CityI1 Living On And Off At The Shadow Motel I2 Small Explosives And Blasting Caps I3 Inside The Pages Of A Phonebook J McVeigh Figures April SilencerK1 Shadows On The Courthouse Wall L1 Waco Postmortem (Murrah)
NotesEdition of 100.Comes with seven 8" x 8" collages
― Mordy, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 04:41 (nine years ago) link
Elohim City
― clouds, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 16:32 (nine years ago) link
sampling what's available on youtube. seems like everything i've heard so far barely rises above a (menacing) whisper.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdmRF5eF85U
― Daniel, Esq 2, Wednesday, 11 June 2014 16:41 (nine years ago) link
My first thought was that's an old Danse Society logo. I am an old goth.
― Daniwa, guys! Daniwa! (aldo), Wednesday, 11 June 2014 17:10 (nine years ago) link
free show @ urban outfitters!
― the late great, Thursday, 17 July 2014 05:24 (nine years ago) link
Ahhh this one’s a real peach. Veering far from what we expected, ‘Games Have Rules’ is a brilliant late night excursion made in the spirit of classic Artificial Intelligence albums, instantly reminding us of that killer first Reaganz (Move D & Jonah Sharp) album from ’94 with it’s atmospheric soundscaping and nods to John Carpenter.
― the final twilight of all evaluative standpoints (nakhchivan), Saturday, 4 October 2014 22:48 (nine years ago) link
i like this more than i thought i would going on that description
― the final twilight of all evaluative standpoints (nakhchivan), Saturday, 4 October 2014 22:51 (nine years ago) link
lol yes, this sounds amazing so far
― Mordy, Saturday, 4 October 2014 22:52 (nine years ago) link
this guy has somehow turned into one of my favorite artists. this is elegiac + beautiful.
― Mordy, Saturday, 4 October 2014 22:53 (nine years ago) link
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― the final twilight of all evaluative standpoints (nakhchivan), Saturday, 4 October 2014 22:56 (nine years ago) link
CD Version of Death Is Unity With God (3 discs) for under $20
― lute bro (brimstead), Saturday, 26 December 2015 19:27 (eight years ago) link
http://www.tinymixtapes.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/Article_Width/1606/vatican-shadow-media.jpg
― brimstead, Thursday, 16 June 2016 00:15 (seven years ago) link
"Take Vows" is a total jam.
― mr.raffles, Thursday, 16 June 2016 02:30 (seven years ago) link
New double 10" Luxor Necropolitics with Joshua Eustis from Telefon Tel Aviv
― brimstead, Sunday, 10 September 2017 16:23 (six years ago) link