didn't people always take kids? those late 90s are supposedly very different to what it was before and after since the fence. Matt will know
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, 1 July 2013 21:47 (ten years ago) link
the muggings-at-knifepoint-in-your-tent
as someone who went to only an early-00s one of these ever this seems ... weirdly hysterical and unlikely. but i don't know, i could have just been oblivious.
― the bitcoin comic (thomp), Monday, 1 July 2013 22:27 (ten years ago) link
?
― kinder, Monday, 1 July 2013 22:30 (ten years ago) link
am I seriously having an actual mugging mansplained away as hysterical
― kinder, Monday, 1 July 2013 22:41 (ten years ago) link
We've avoided that heavy American rock like Offspring
lmao
― "If you like the Byrds, try Depeche Mode" (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 1 July 2013 22:43 (ten years ago) link
I don't think thomp realised you were talking about an actual mugging, kinder. Those stories go around all the time, it's one of those 'Scallies will steal your shoes' things that always happens to friends-of-friends or is written about moral panic style in right-wing papers ('hysterical' also being non-gendered when aimed at that form of story, regardless of its etymology).
― emil.y, Monday, 1 July 2013 22:59 (ten years ago) link
The BBC iplayer seems to have loads of these live sets in full.
― Mark G, Monday, 1 July 2013 23:24 (ten years ago) link
e.g.Portishead's set seems to run to 70 mins on there.
― Mark G, Monday, 1 July 2013 23:26 (ten years ago) link
re muggings etc, late 90s/ early 00s pre-superfence era could be scary, 2000 was notoriously horrendous (quote from Eavis; "At one stage after the 2000 festival I thought I would never get a license again.. ") a proper amount of erberts knocking about, record crime etc. our kid had her phone nicked out of her hand that year, mate had his tent ransacked as he slept, people stamping through camping bits on the rob left right and centre, the dance tent bit in particular was just horrible. after the fence was built in the 2001 year off it was safe as houses, course you heard folk say it was 'sanitised' and had lost it's 'edge' but i knew which i preferred.
― piscesx, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 00:56 (ten years ago) link
I was there most years from 1998 onwards for a while, and there was definitely a big change the first year the fence went up, mostly because it felt a lot emptier. I never found it scary before then, though, and I knew people who had babies with them and it never seemed to be a problem.
Portishead were amazing in 1998, first time I ever saw them and they blew me away.
― toby, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 05:06 (ten years ago) link
― "If you like the Byrds, try Depeche Mode" (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, July 1, 2013 10:43 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
first pit I was ever in age 15 was Offspring at Glastonbury when 'Smash' was blowing up and it was pretty brutal tbrr
― dimension nickröss (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 07:29 (ten years ago) link
Kasabian??!?!?!? Are they really that popular?
― Chewshabadoo, Monday, July 1, 2013 9:26 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yes
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Monday, July 1, 2013 9:38 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
when that bookie is talking about headliners does that not imply Saturday night headliners...? like I get that Kasabian are hueg in an ignorable/insidious kind of way but they're an arena sized band and it seems like the stakes have been raised so that Gloastonbury's flagship act for the year has to be a stadium kinda deal
― jump around violently in so-called "mosh-pits" and go "crowd-surfing (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 07:38 (ten years ago) link
the extra O in "Gloastonbury" is quite satisfying to say out loud fyi
― jump around violently in so-called "mosh-pits" and go "crowd-surfing (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 07:39 (ten years ago) link
Do people really mosh these days, outside punk or metal gigs? I know people would mosh to pretty much anything in the 90s but you barely see it at Glastonbury now. We walked past the Smashing Pumpkins playing Bullet With Butterfly Wings and there was barely anything going on. Plus there's an enclosure near the stage to protect people at the front in the event of a big crush.
I highly doubt Black Sabbath is the kind of thing Eavis was talking about when he made that statement at the height of the nu-metal era. He's prepared to book Zeppelin after all, but I'm not sure they'd have much interest in Sabbath either.
Any crush danger is more likely to come from putting massive draws in tents that can't cope with them (ie Disclosure) but I think security are pretty good at dealing with that now.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 07:59 (ten years ago) link
FWIW I think kids are an integral part of Glastonbury, they've been there as long asd I can remember, and there are two kids fields, one of which they don't let people into without a child. The Green kids field had a big pirate ship and kids on spacehoppers. It looked pretty idyllic to be honest. Plus the area around the circus and theatre fields are really kid-friendly.
You definitely see more babies these days, usually wearing big ear protectors. Can't say I'd consider taking one, but friends of ours brought a one-year old, although we didn't see them past Wednesday.
It was definitely crazier pre-fence, because pretty much anyone could get in, but I feel like the craziness has ramped up in the last few years, since the Shangri-La field became a big thing. But there's been a family camping field for years, which looks pretty sedate.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 08:12 (ten years ago) link
Is there a "field where people get a good nights sleep" yet?
(it's not for me...)
― Mark G, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 08:26 (ten years ago) link
when that bookie is talking about headliners does that not imply Saturday night headliners...?
I assume it means on any of the three days. So Kasabian or Kings of Leon are quite likely to do Friday
― Number None, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 09:26 (ten years ago) link
as a non festival attender i guess the point is that they can have despicable shitbags like Kasabian headlining to draw in the drones and you're quite free to go and watch something musical instead
― for many people a really special folder makes a huge difference (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 09:41 (ten years ago) link
they will vanish after 7 days though. http://www.bbc.co.uk/glastonbury has approx. 1 hour highlights for each act that last for 30 days (UK only obv)
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 10:24 (ten years ago) link
Will have to grab 'em while I can..
― Mark G, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 11:10 (ten years ago) link
Didn't bother to watch any of this, but did have a look at the line-up over the three days and quickly found that there would have been only about 3 or 4 bands I would have wanted to have seen, anyway. Pretty taken aback at how much the line-up doesn't reflect what I'm actually listening to in 2013 for the most part, even on the smaller stages.
― I wanna live like C'MOWN! people (Turrican), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 11:52 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, but even when it did, I'd spend more time on the 'comedy' stages and the other places than the main / 2nd main stage..
― Mark G, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 11:58 (ten years ago) link
Actually, I was dismissive about Glastonbury this year as I am every year but the line-up looks pretty great to me. I don't know what the West Holts stage is but looks like I could've just hung out there every day and had a reasonable amount of fun.
― emil.y, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 12:49 (ten years ago) link
It's a good field to hang out in, in general, not usually too packed and also surrounded with good food and drink places.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 13:08 (ten years ago) link
just watched the portishead set on my big tv.f*ck.not that much of a fan, but that was brilliant.intense.love love love the way beth turns her back while the band get into it, and just soaks up the noise.thought i would get bored.but no ... mesmerising to the extreme.lucky you matt.(mate at work also said they were his fave of the weekend ... hence the double nudge)
― mark e, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 18:56 (ten years ago) link
they were amazing when i saw them at the barras in 97 or 98
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 19:05 (ten years ago) link
Will have to save a bunch of these to DVD before they go..
― Mark G, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 19:42 (ten years ago) link
taking orders? :)
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 19:47 (ten years ago) link
Hmmmm. ()
― Mark G, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 19:48 (ten years ago) link
I saw Portishead at the Tower Ballroom in Blackpool in '94. Place was full of idiots who wouldn't shut up. Final 20 minutes were glorious though.
― Michael Jones, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 21:13 (ten years ago) link
Their headline set at the ATP they curated was probably the best gig I've seen. It SOUNDED incredible.
― kraudive, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 21:15 (ten years ago) link
Not managed to find the full portishead set on BBC catchup or iplayer yet. So far my highlight is Bobby Womack. I love him anyway, but he was on fire.
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Tuesday, 2 July 2013 21:31 (ten years ago) link
^^^ amazing show
― for many people a really special folder makes a huge difference (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 21:34 (ten years ago) link
Their headline set at the ATP they curated was probably the best gig I've seen. It SOUNDED incredible.― kraudive, Tuesday, July 2, 2013 9:15 PM (Yesterday)
― kraudive, Tuesday, July 2, 2013 9:15 PM (Yesterday)
Same here. Their first night at that was especially spine-tingling, I thought.
I went to Glastonbury in the early '90s when the crusties/ravers were climbing over the fence in their droves, but I don't remember it feeling particularly dangerous.
― hewing to the status quo with great zealotry (DavidM), Wednesday, 3 July 2013 13:06 (ten years ago) link
Dr X, it's here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/events/ej58q9/acts/aqnv4f#p01c2ftd
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 3 July 2013 13:43 (ten years ago) link
pretty intense Savages show in a third-full John Peel tent
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p01c3hyb/Glastonbury_2013_Savages_Glastonbury_2013/
― piscesx, Wednesday, 3 July 2013 15:27 (ten years ago) link
I saw their Friday afternoon in the smaller William's Green tent and it was magnificent. Surprised they didn't get a better showing on Saturday.
― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 3 July 2013 16:25 (ten years ago) link
Just watched Portishead now, brilliant. Beth seemed so nice at the end as well, really humble
― Gouty_Ted, Wednesday, 3 July 2013 18:32 (ten years ago) link
yeah .. that was a real eye opener for me.after the cold distance of the performance, the 'hope that was all right' outburst was totally unexpected.
― mark e, Wednesday, 3 July 2013 18:41 (ten years ago) link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/events/ej58q9/performances/lg49mb
Really nice page with all the links!
― Mark G, Friday, 5 July 2013 09:40 (ten years ago) link
You have until 30th July to fill your boots before it's all gone.
(Well, the performances, I mean. I daresay the pics will be there forever)
― Mark G, Friday, 5 July 2013 09:47 (ten years ago) link
sorry, that date is the 29th July at 01:51, certainly as far as the Portishead foorage is concerned.
― Mark G, Friday, 5 July 2013 09:49 (ten years ago) link
rokia traoré! oh wait it's not actually on there :-(
― sjuttiosju_u (wins), Friday, 5 July 2013 16:25 (ten years ago) link
Thanks Tracerhand, I found Portishead footage, which was amazing, and am about halfway through Savages now
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Friday, 5 July 2013 22:43 (ten years ago) link