I agree w.DQ abt Radiohead subject topics — modern technology and "dehumanisation" done better by Numan-Foxx, as all know — but not abt Alan Parsons LP covers.
Jack R likes the Tull!! Do a thread, Jack. Ronan to Radiohead = me to Tull, but I am punk-damaged bigtime,and not to be trusted.
― mark s, Saturday, 13 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― dave q, Sunday, 14 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Jack Redelfs, Sunday, 14 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― ethan, Sunday, 14 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
in fact as a lyric writer generally, waters is borderline illiterate — i don't think he wrote an insightful line in his life, tho i've never bothered pursuing the solo LPs — but i don't listen to songwords anyway, so that doesn't worry me especially: what i find tiresome about dark side is the way a weakness — its extreme textural monotony — is proclaimed as a strength
― mark s, Sunday, 14 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Damian, Sunday, 14 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
As for being Roger Waters being "functionally illiterate," well, nicely inflammatory but obviously not true. I think even a non-believer could see the care and thought put into most of his lyrics. That's _my_ problem with his lesser lyrics, that they're far too obvious and belabored (while I also like the totally preconceived and over-the-top riddles of someone like Peter Gabriel *scratch head*). For myself, most of the lyrics on the Pink Floyd albums _Dark Side Of The Moon_, _Wish You Were Here_, _Animals_ are deeply emotionally and intellectually satisfying.
Yes, the production has something of a uniform sound, but it's _designed_ as one long experience, an album length work -- there's a reprise, for Allah's sake, and quotes from past songs. If you categorically don't like "concept albums," (that's a nebulous phrase), "suites" or long-form works in general, well, that's your own choice. Personally, I think it would do us all well to develop a musical attention span.
― Jack Redelfs, Monday, 15 October 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Nigel (Nigel), Thursday, 3 August 2006 05:08 (seventeen years ago) link
The Easer is much better than both though.
― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 3 August 2006 08:02 (seventeen years ago) link
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 3 August 2006 08:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― de latebloomer's 2015 youth crew revival (latebloomer), Thursday, 3 August 2006 08:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 3 August 2006 08:52 (seventeen years ago) link
FIXED.
― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 3 August 2006 09:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 3 August 2006 09:13 (seventeen years ago) link
― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 3 August 2006 09:17 (seventeen years ago) link
― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 3 August 2006 09:20 (seventeen years ago) link
But RH are very much a guilty pleasure.
― I'm On The Radio So I Don't Care!!!1! (kate), Thursday, 3 August 2006 09:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 3 August 2006 09:21 (seventeen years ago) link
― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 3 August 2006 09:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 3 August 2006 09:23 (seventeen years ago) link
― Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 3 August 2006 09:25 (seventeen years ago) link
― I'm On The Radio So I Don't Care!!!1! (kate), Thursday, 3 August 2006 09:32 (seventeen years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 3 August 2006 09:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 3 August 2006 10:05 (seventeen years ago) link
whatever guy, it's like normal 'hip-hop' speed.
― Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 3 August 2006 10:09 (seventeen years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 3 August 2006 10:25 (seventeen years ago) link
― Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 3 August 2006 10:29 (seventeen years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 3 August 2006 10:37 (seventeen years ago) link
― Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 3 August 2006 10:40 (seventeen years ago) link
you gotsta be kidding.
― Rizz (Rizz), Thursday, 3 August 2006 10:49 (seventeen years ago) link
I still stand by my "In Limbo" statements upthread, although I'd change the caveat to say the "Pyramid Song" surpasses it.
― Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Thursday, 3 August 2006 11:03 (seventeen years ago) link
Mix and master your records right, kids.
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 3 August 2006 11:24 (seventeen years ago) link
― rizzx (Rizz), Thursday, 3 August 2006 11:26 (seventeen years ago) link
I think these two are arguing about two differing performances, not recordings.
― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 3 August 2006 11:36 (seventeen years ago) link
― Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Thursday, 3 August 2006 11:37 (seventeen years ago) link
ding the money. it gets good again at the end too, blud.
'kid a' easy anyway. 'amnesiac' has its moments. am an uneasy radiohead fan. i mean, uneasy to BE one, not the other thing.
lol was in indie club at xmas, they played 'idiotheque'.
― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Thursday, 3 August 2006 11:40 (seventeen years ago) link
Kid A and Amnesiac and HTTT are all too loud and not dynamic enough, thus they will sound better live wgere you have more variation in volume and thus excitement. EIIRP is HUGELOUD and yet it's meant to be this delicate electronic whimsy thing.
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 3 August 2006 11:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Thursday, 3 August 2006 11:53 (seventeen years ago) link
I don't buy the idea that x is meant to be this/that/other = exact reproduction of live performance.
― fandango (fandango), Thursday, 3 August 2006 11:54 (seventeen years ago) link
Optimistic is the worst offender here, they should have made more out of the big thuddy incessant drums that characterised the live version.
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 3 August 2006 12:12 (seventeen years ago) link
― Jesus Dan (Dan Perry), Thursday, 3 August 2006 12:15 (seventeen years ago) link
― smartypants (smartypants), Thursday, 3 August 2006 12:45 (seventeen years ago) link
I liked Amnesiac best for a long time, and I still think it's great. The electronic stuff sounds the most convincing on that record, plus Pyramid Song, Life in a Glass House, etc.. I definitely listen to HttT more these days, though.
Kid A has great moments (EIIRP, National Anthem, Idioteque), but I rarely listen to it all the way through.
― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 3 August 2006 12:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― xavier (xave), Thursday, 3 August 2006 12:53 (seventeen years ago) link
Hmmm. No. I mean, no such thing as "perfection" obviously, because it's subjective, but... oh bollocks to it, I have a car to buy.
― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 3 August 2006 14:01 (seventeen years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 3 August 2006 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link
Amnesiac on the other hand sounds like the whiny Floydy wankery that I normally associate Thom and chums with.
― winter testing (winter testing), Thursday, 3 August 2006 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link
The first half of Kid A is pretty uneven - I don't particularly enjoy The National Anthem, Kid A, or Treefingers, and they seem totally ignorant of any electronic music that came before them. However, I think the sequence of songs starting with Optimistic is the best thing on either of these two albums.
― Matt Olken (Moodles), Thursday, 3 August 2006 23:09 (seventeen years ago) link
Kid Amnesiac
― Edward Bax (EdBax), Friday, 4 August 2006 02:37 (seventeen years ago) link
the relative looseness of a song like fog really works as a bit of a release in comparison to the other songs.
― candyman, Sunday, 21 March 2021 22:13 (three years ago) link
actually listening to those songs with the other album tracks, they sound like they are from different sessions entirely.
― candyman, Sunday, 21 March 2021 22:21 (three years ago) link
Mark - Sean -- I love Wish You Were Here!
― JimCarrey, Monday, 22 March 2021 02:05 (three years ago) link
moka i like your kid a/b/c sequences! any one of the three looks great; i may cue one up for later
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Monday, 22 March 2021 02:47 (three years ago) link
this one, especially
KID C1. Hunting Bears2. I might be wrong3. Optimistic4. Knives Out5. How to Disappear Completely6. You and Whose Army7. Trans-atlantic drawl8. Morning Bell Amnesiac9. Cuttooth10. Fog
1. Hunting Bears2. I might be wrong3. Optimistic4. Knives Out5. How to Disappear Completely6. You and Whose Army7. Trans-atlantic drawl8. Morning Bell Amnesiac9. Cuttooth10. Fog
― Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Monday, 22 March 2021 02:51 (three years ago) link
i have done numerous attempts at re-sequencing KidA/Amnesiac for lord knows how many years and i've always ended up in that immediate realization that i would never change anything about the opening 4 songs of Kid A, which, then based on my love of the songs on the latter half of the album, has left me not changing anything on it.
try the best you can, the best you can is re-sequence Amnesiac with that eras b-sides.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Monday, 22 March 2021 05:43 (three years ago) link
I'm not bothering anymore. Got to take it as is.
― candyman, Monday, 22 March 2021 06:16 (three years ago) link