top 1000 albums of the 00s on rateyourmusichttp://rateyourmusic.com/charts/top/album/2000s
― djmartian, Monday, 16 February 2009 20:15 (fifteen years ago) link
I really don't know how many layers of parody we're operating at by now
― there's no antivote to (country matters), Monday, 16 February 2009 20:16 (fifteen years ago) link
Whiney was right: re: I always thought it was gonna be Kid A
― djmartian, Monday, 16 February 2009 20:16 (fifteen years ago) link
no way that Lateralus would make it, backlash against tool is pretty solid, particularly that album
― From Rax to Rich's (jjjusten), Monday, 16 February 2009 20:18 (fifteen years ago) link
Lateralus in at 6 - still an impressive showing on the rym rankings
― djmartian, Monday, 16 February 2009 20:20 (fifteen years ago) link
i'm trying to think of what constitutes my favorite "mainstream" rock record...maybe Songs for the Deaf?
― Yo, I just copped dat brand new Manity Kane cd. (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 16 February 2009 20:20 (fifteen years ago) link
Looking at RYM it seems like the 00s was the decade of Opeth, Masta Ace and Clint Mansell.
― Dorianlynskey, Monday, 16 February 2009 20:20 (fifteen years ago) link
I wouldn't have thought Kid A a few years ago, but Whiney is right: These days, Radiohead has moved into that "everybody likes them" space(I think In Rainbows really helped in that regard). Kid A is a fine choice. I thought maybe Toxcicity since it was No. 1 on 09.11.01, and I remember people at the time wrote that it somehow captured the national mood, and it certainly was loved by a lot of "frat goons and rock radio cheeseballs and headbangers" and so on.
(xp)
― Daniel, Esq., Monday, 16 February 2009 20:21 (fifteen years ago) link
yeah, but the indie pantspissers and rockist critics who make these type of lists sadly do not rep for System Of A Down like they do for Radiohead.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Monday, 16 February 2009 20:22 (fifteen years ago) link
the pitchfork influence in the top 100 is still noticeable
― djmartian, Monday, 16 February 2009 20:23 (fifteen years ago) link
good thread to cross reference with: Good major Label Rock/Metal albums from Late 90's-2008?
― brainless popcorn (some dude), Monday, 16 February 2009 20:26 (fifteen years ago) link
Don't have a good answer, but of everything mentioned so far, Toxicity would be my pick.
I'm always psyched when one of those tunes comes up randomly on my ipod.
I don't think you trust in mySelf-righteous suicideI cryWhen angels deserve to DIE!!!!
I'm not sure there have ever been better lyrics...
― Moodles, Monday, 16 February 2009 20:54 (fifteen years ago) link
that song is a jam
― Yo, I just copped dat brand new Manity Kane cd. (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 16 February 2009 21:01 (fifteen years ago) link
is this a parody thread?
― ^^ one of enriques sincere posts (special guest stars mark bronson), Monday, 16 February 2009 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link
How's about:FuneralX&YWelcome to the Black Parade?
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 16 February 2009 21:07 (fifteen years ago) link
Funeral is indie, jerkster
― there's no antivote to (country matters), Monday, 16 February 2009 21:10 (fifteen years ago) link
well 'scuse me, I suppose I should've known by death-metallers radiohead being all over this thread
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 16 February 2009 21:13 (fifteen years ago) link
The answer is obviously Source Tags And Codes ffs
― there's no antivote to (country matters), Monday, 16 February 2009 21:16 (fifteen years ago) link
is this serious or is dom just really bored/trolling
― Jewish Lager (k3vin k.), Monday, 16 February 2009 21:32 (fifteen years ago) link
Speakerboxxx/The Love Below is the rock album of the decade. (#2: Is This It)
― Mr. Snrub, Monday, 16 February 2009 21:49 (fifteen years ago) link
Didn't "rock fans" dismiss Nirvana in 1993?
The Strokes
― awesome was amazing (PappaWheelie V), Monday, 16 February 2009 21:53 (fifteen years ago) link
I just checked RS and apparently it's still Sgt. Pepper.
― butt-rock miyagi (rogermexico.), Monday, 16 February 2009 21:56 (fifteen years ago) link
Justice -
― Moodles, Monday, 16 February 2009 21:59 (fifteen years ago) link
actual lols - A+ whoever
― big fatass rick ross (J0rdan S.), Monday, 16 February 2009 22:00 (fifteen years ago) link
ahahhaha
― s1ocki, Monday, 16 February 2009 22:01 (fifteen years ago) link
As far as metal-influenced radio rock goes, Toxicity remains fantastic. It's a shame SOAD still seem to get tossed in the same "let's do our best to forget about them" bin as nu-metal garbage on the basis of blind association. Getting radioplay alongside the likes Trapt and Crazy Town will do that to you, I guess.
― OffensiveBeard, Monday, 16 February 2009 22:17 (fifteen years ago) link
I'd say OK Computer.
Who said the album of the 00s actually had to be from the 00s?
Is this a sad state of affairs? Yeah, kinda.
― System Jr. (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 16 February 2009 22:25 (fifteen years ago) link
THe funny thing is that "Origin of Symmetry" is better than most of the things mentioned in this thread. FACT.
― what you know about hat? I know all about hat. (edwardo), Monday, 16 February 2009 22:27 (fifteen years ago) link
Seriously, now, and this will be a rare instance of seriousness from me on this thread, I actually agree with edwardo
― there's no antivote to (country matters), Monday, 16 February 2009 22:28 (fifteen years ago) link
The Darkness: Permission To Landor whatever it was called
― the pinefox, Monday, 16 February 2009 22:29 (fifteen years ago) link
Permission to suck?
― ilxor, Monday, 16 February 2009 22:38 (fifteen years ago) link
Duh.
http://www.soundstagedirect.com/media/beatles_love.jpg
― Nate Carson, Monday, 16 February 2009 22:39 (fifteen years ago) link
QOTSA - Songs for the Deaf
― Soukesian, Monday, 16 February 2009 22:49 (fifteen years ago) link
Return to Cookie Mountain?Yankee Hotel Foxtrot?
Oh wait.. to "rock fans.."
In that case, no.. with extra "no" emphasis on the 2nd half of the decade.
― billstevejim, Monday, 16 February 2009 22:58 (fifteen years ago) link
Return to Sucky Mountain?
Yankee Hotel Sucktrot?
― ilxor, Monday, 16 February 2009 23:55 (fifteen years ago) link
my top 6 of the 00s, so far (rock & unrock):
1) MF Doom & Madlib - Madvillainy2) Erykah Badu - NuAmerykah Part 1: 4th World War3) The Fall - The Real New Fall LP4) High on Fire - Blessed Black Wings5) Radiohead - Kid A6) Peaches - The Teaches of Peaches
― 37 x 18 = (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 00:14 (fifteen years ago) link
you don't know the name of the group that made your favorite album of the decade?
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 00:24 (fifteen years ago) link
it's called madvillain...but I just hate typing out "Madvillain - Madvillainy"...just seems redundant to me...
― 37 x 18 = (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 00:26 (fifteen years ago) link
Love and Theft gets my vote.
I also dig:
The White Stripes - White Blood Cells (way better than Elephant)The Wrens - MeadowlandsDrive-By Truckers - Decoration Day
The most interesting band/artist to emerge in the decade is MIA. That kind of thing is not my usual cup of musical tea, but she is the real deal. Whatever "it" is, she's got it.
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 01:56 (fifteen years ago) link
Is this it - the strokes. Definitely, though the canonical band would be the white stripes instead of The Strokes.
― Josh L, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 02:28 (fifteen years ago) link
Whatever "it" is, she's got it.
Herpes, presumably.
― what you know about hat? I know all about hat. (edwardo), Tuesday, 17 February 2009 02:33 (fifteen years ago) link
Franz Ferdinand's debut, maybe?
Or, OK, maybe The Strokes too, but Franz Ferdinand is like The Strokes with tunes, and somewhat having escape from the tin box, The Strokes recorded that album inside.
― Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 05:33 (fifteen years ago) link
slightly off topic,
would i be correct in saying the first yearly poll for ILM was 2002
The ILX Readers Poll 2002 - RECORDS OF THE YEAR
and there were no organized ilm polls for 2000 and 2001 or indeed 2003?
before a decade poll early next year, these need organizing first
― djmartian, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 21:53 (fifteen years ago) link
If we're talking "everyone can agree" on, can I just express formal dissent over The Strokes? I'm not going to get into detailing why I dislike them so wholeheartedly, it's just that I'm damn sure I'm not the only one to be utterly underwhelmed by 'em. White Stripes, i could be talked into.
― Soukesian, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 22:17 (fifteen years ago) link
The Hives also made a great record.
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 22:34 (fifteen years ago) link
that's true, except they didn't, and nobody likes them, and they suck
― contenderizer, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 22:36 (fifteen years ago) link
Blood Visions, of course!
― bendy, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 22:37 (fifteen years ago) link
"What is 2000s rock?""The Strokes?""Yeah, the Strokes""The Strokes!""Fuck the Strokes!""Yeah, Fuck the Strokes!!""But c'mon, The Strokes...""Seriously dudes, he's got a point about the Strokes.""Whatever dude, I hate the Strokes!""Me too. Strokes are douchy.""Fuck them Strokes!""I would like the Strokes, but they're not as good as some other eh band."+"I kinda liked the Strokes then.""Not me. The Strokes are lame."-----------------------------------Duh, The Strokes
― PappaWheelie V, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 22:40 (fifteen years ago) link
who are "rock fans"? metalheads? classic rock people who don't move much outside canonical 60s/70s stuff? indie kids who don't like the electro stuff? punx? emoez? generalists who just happen to prefer guitar-based music (like uh, U2, REM, coldplay, dave matthews)?
i mean, what one sound could possibly appeal to all those people? radiohead might be the best bet, cuz not only are they popular, they seem to appeal to all kinds of otherwise primarily niche-dwelling music fans.
― contenderizer, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 22:43 (fifteen years ago) link
strokes would be the answer if the OP wondered what rock record = album of the decade to all kindsa people, and not just "rock fans".
― contenderizer, Tuesday, 17 February 2009 22:45 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm blown away by Geir, yet again. Kudos.
― mh, Monday, 4 October 2010 16:39 (thirteen years ago) link
or something by white stripes
This seems OTM ^^
I'd venture to guess White Blood Cells or Elephant -- didn't the latter have a bigger profile? According to Wikipedia it's sold almost 2 million copies in the US alone... sounds like consensus to me!
― ilxor repping so hard for this = death knell (ilxor), Monday, 4 October 2010 17:45 (thirteen years ago) link
or more like... the numerous types of proper rock with noisy guitars and riffs that did exist at the time the rock genre was established.
Well, garage rock then... But you still didn't like The White Stripes nor any other of the garage rock revival names of the early 00s?
― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Monday, 4 October 2010 19:49 (thirteen years ago) link
My point being, it seems you want 00s rock to be much more extreme in terms of noise than rock was in the 70s/80s, but then it isn't rock anymore.
― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Monday, 4 October 2010 19:50 (thirteen years ago) link
And what you're saying is that genres that are derivative or partially derivative of rock didn't exist before rock. I think that is a tautology, but that might just be me.
― mh, Monday, 4 October 2010 20:56 (thirteen years ago) link
Rock is rock. Rock today is what rock was in 1968.
― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Monday, 4 October 2010 21:06 (thirteen years ago) link
no
― I'm a Grizzily Bear Now (CaptainLorax), Monday, 4 October 2010 21:08 (thirteen years ago) link
I dunno, a band called Earth are probably the most important band in rock still.
― It would have been better with burger sauce (aldo), Monday, 4 October 2010 21:15 (thirteen years ago) link
this is ludicrous. one might just as well say that "rock today is what rock was in 1955-57." excluding all baroque pop a la the beatles & zombies, excluding all prog and acid rock, excluding everything that doesn't sound of a part with chuck berry, bill haley, jerry lee lewis, little richard, elvis, buddy holly, etc. and that's just ridiculous. rock continued to expand and redefine itself for decades, is perhaps still doing so today.
― having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Monday, 4 October 2010 22:52 (thirteen years ago) link
INSTANT HONGRO CLASSIC
― J0rdan S., Monday, 4 October 2010 22:56 (thirteen years ago) link
this is ludicrous. one might just as well say that "rock today is what rock was in 1955-57."
No. Because there was no rock in 1955-57. Just rock'n'roll. Which is another genre.
Rock is by its very definition what The Rolling Stones, Jimi Hendrix and Cream were doing around 1967-68. That was rock then, and that is the definition of rock today. So I guess the likes of Paul Weller and Lenny Kravitz probably come closer to true rock than anyone else.
― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Monday, 4 October 2010 22:57 (thirteen years ago) link
Just the same way pop by its very definition was whatever The Beatles, The Beach Boys and The Byrds were doing around the same time.
― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Monday, 4 October 2010 22:59 (thirteen years ago) link
Geir is funk rock (funkadelic etc) and metal not rock?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 4 October 2010 23:12 (thirteen years ago) link
you're manipulating the terms to suit your own idea of what these genres should be, and drawing arbitrary distinctions between things that exist on a continuum. the word "rock" has existed for almost as long as "rock and roll", and originally described exactly the same thing. we can treat early "rock and roll" as the progenitor subgenre of rock (the umbrella genre), leading into things like baroque pop, acid rock, prog, folk rock, etc. - but they're all still just types of rock music, points on the curve. same goes for later permutations like heavy metal, punk, indie rock, noise rock, hardcore, etc.
likewise, the term "pop" predates the 67-68 era by at least a decade, if not more.
― having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Monday, 4 October 2010 23:14 (thirteen years ago) link
Funk rock is a subgenre of funk, metal is a subgenre of rock, but not really rock.
― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Monday, 4 October 2010 23:15 (thirteen years ago) link
"Pop" dates back to the 20s.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 4 October 2010 23:16 (thirteen years ago) link
you're manipulating the terms to suit your own idea of what these genres should be, and drawing arbitrary distinctions between things that exist on a continuum. the word "rock" has existed for almost as long as "rock and roll", and originally described exactly the same thing. we can treat early "rock and roll" as the progenitor subgenre of rock (the umbrella genre), leading into things like baroque pop, acid rock, prog, folk rock, etc. - but they're all still just types of rock music, points on the curve. same goes for later permutations like heavy metal, punk, indie rock, noise rock, hardcore, etc.likewise, the term "pop" predates the 67-68 era by at least a decade, if not more.
But nobody cared about rock history before the baby boomers. The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all. They know this, they have the key to this. We should all respect the authority of the baby boomers.
― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Monday, 4 October 2010 23:16 (thirteen years ago) link
Rock history didn't exist before the baby boomers
― I'm a DUDE, Dad! (Viceroy), Monday, 4 October 2010 23:20 (thirteen years ago) link
There was no rock in pre-WWII america or anywhere else.
― I'm a DUDE, Dad! (Viceroy), Monday, 4 October 2010 23:21 (thirteen years ago) link
Please make We should all respect the authority of the baby boomers. the new board description.
And geir, of course Metal is Rock.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 4 October 2010 23:25 (thirteen years ago) link
We should all respect the authority of the baby boomers.
even if you're not trolling, you're trolling
― having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 00:05 (thirteen years ago) link
if I respected the musical opinions of most baby boomers I know then all rock music would sound like Loverboy
― horton whores a HOOS (crüt), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 00:11 (thirteen years ago) link
because I would be making all rock music
The typical AOR fan is born in the 50s or 60s, not in the late 40s.
― Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 14:11 (thirteen years ago) link
I believe the "baby boomer" phase was up to the late fifties.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 14:14 (thirteen years ago) link
..and here to illustrate this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:U.S.BirthRate.1909.2003.png
― Mark G, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 14:15 (thirteen years ago) link
Ach, romo.
― Mark G, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 14:16 (thirteen years ago) link
http://img-s3-01.mytextgraphics.com/sparklee/2010/10/05/23ada9627d38870a8e6f8aac7c04b445.gif
― aerosmith: live at gunpoint (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 14:19 (thirteen years ago) link
<img style="visibility:hidden;width:0px;height:0px;" border=0 width=0 height=0 src="http://counters.gigya.com/wildfire/IMP/CXNID=2000002.0NXC/bT*xJmx*PTEyODYyODg2NTkyMzQmcHQ9MTI4NjI4ODcwMzU*NiZwPTc*MzIxJmQ9Jmc9MSZvPTdhMzUwNzMxZTkwOTQ3NGZhOGI1/ZTFiNjI2Y2JiMjhj.gif" /><a href="http://www.sparklee.com"><img src="http://img-s3-01.mytextgraphics.com/sparklee/2010/10/05/79e2b9dba4fed5a51ad42a4d8b1e33a6.gif" border="0" alt="Glitter Text Graphics - http://www.sparklee.com" /></a><br /><br /><a href='http://www.docloop.com'>doctor reviews</a>
― Mark G, Tuesday, 5 October 2010 14:24 (thirteen years ago) link
This XML file does not appear to have any style information associated with it. The document tree is shown below.
― having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer), Tuesday, 5 October 2010 16:07 (thirteen years ago) link
this is ludicrous. one might just as well say that "rock today is what rock was in 1955-57." excluding all baroque pop a la the beatles & zombies, excluding all prog and acid rock, excluding everything that does n't sound of a part with chuck berry, bill haley, jerry lee lewis, little richard, elvis, buddy holly, etc. and that's just ridiculous.
I've actually read a few critics that have tried to say something similar; it was a kind of a fashionable angle to approach things for a minute...
― butthurt surfers (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 12:55 (thirteen years ago) link
Geir raising his game. Hats off.
― The baby boomers have defined everything once and for all (Dorianlynskey), Wednesday, 6 October 2010 13:08 (thirteen years ago) link