Oh, you've got green eyes Oh, you've got blue eyes Oh, you've got Poll eyes: NEW ORDER Artist poll #37 (voting ends May 26 Midnight Pacific)

Predicting a good showing for Movement.

ICB when the drums really kick in = wow.

btw pretty much the entirety of Movement is the greatest thing in the world

Movement and Technique (and Substance?) fighting it out for the best albums.

(coughs) and PCL, clearly.

dunno where this is going but it's one of my favorite late period songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KO0zeP6ftY

There's a nice recording of that one from Reading '93 as well.

You can NOW vote for songs without numbering them, i will count all songs evenly.

for those who wish to not rank their songs ballot.

Just working on my list. I made a playlist of my favourite songs, got it down to 45 songs now. I really don't want to leave any of these songs out.

Everyone Everywhere will be on my list. Actually surprised how many songs I love that came after Technique. On my playlist I have thirteen songs from the last three albums.

"Crystal" will certainly make mine.

Yeah that will do well on mine.

I know a lot of people don't rate Republic that highly but I currently have five songs on my list from that album that I just don't want to cut.

Flicking through the last two albums I realised my favourite song is Waiting For The Siren's Call by quite a long way, really hope that has enough supporters to make it. The "How many times must I lose my way" bit is one of my favourite New Order moments.

The other big dilemma I'm having is if I'm going to include Blue Monday. It's hard to even rank that song against the others due to how many times I've heard it in my life. It's a great song but I barely ever play it put of choice anymore.

The post-(e)Electronic keyboards and muted Hooky bass are Republic's most crippling flaws. The tunes are ace.

Happy to see people praising Movement. Always the dark horse from the catalogue - maligned by the band and critics alike - but I have always thought it a terrible special record. I can't think of another record that really sounds like this, but R.E.M.'s Murmur and Marianne Faithful's Broken English have a similar production feel... Very nocturnal-sounding.

I was discussing off-site the appeal of New Order's melodica songs. "Truth" ranks highly amongst my favourites.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ajtp7tPee1A

also "Hurt."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRu5CThEmcE

And "In A Lonely Place," "Turn The Heater On," "Your Silent Face," "Love Vigilantes," "Angel Dust" (listen during the guitar solo - more obvious in "Evil Dust"), "All The Way," "Run Wild," and possibly "Slow Jam" (sounds like it during the last 30 seconds or so). Can anyone spot more instances?

xpost - love "Waiting for the Sirens' Call."

"Morning Night and Day" is my banger from that album.

The post-(e)Electronic keyboards and muted Hooky bass are Republic's most crippling flaws. The tunes are ace.

― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)

Yeah Hooky is barely on that album.

As for Siren's Call I think it loses it's way half way through. I can never really remember of the songs after I Told You So. Turn is the other song I think I'll end up voting for from that album, really surprised they didn't put that out as a single.

Dag, looking forward to this poll. May actually participate!

By love "Waiting for the Sirens' Call" I meant the song... The album itself is OK, but loses steam midway as mentioned above.

Speaking of losing steam, I just listened to Republic for the first time in years. The first half sounds better than I remember, but the stretch of songs between "Young Offender" and "Avalanche" really draaaaags, though I like those two tracks themselves.

What I really love about early New Order is it seems like the songs are built around Steve's drums. This seems less apparent after PC&L.

I really like Special from the second half of Republic, the strings at the end are a bit of an obvious Unfinished Sympathy rip off but it's a great tune.

this discography even has videos:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Order_discography

What I really love about early New Order is it seems like the songs are built around Steve's drums. This seems less apparent after PC&L.

I relistened to PC&L at the weekend and the drumming really stood out, 'Age of Consent' in particular.

I'm a casual New Order fan compared to many but shortlisting my favourite tracks gave me 40-odd songs to work with.

Somehow I just realized that for a band that's been active (for the most part) for 30+ years, they don't have a very large catalogue.

5 albums in the 80s (plus Substance) then 3 since 1990 means their discography is a bit lopsided on that score.

Five albums in the 80's but they all have just eight or nine songs on them.

my favourite band ages 13-16, formative experience etc. has been fun going back to songs i haven't listened to in 15+ years, early singles & first two albums still sound amazing, then things get v sporadic.
vote Procession/Everything's Gone Green!

Yeh, Procession is a bit overlooked, coming between Ceremony and Blue Monday. I love the way a pop song suddenly bursts out of that wonky keyboard wash, and Steve does those crisp snare rolls at the end.

Sent Mine.

and me mine.

hmm, are we seeing poll fatigue here?

I thought the New Order poll thread would be very, very busy here on ILM.

i got my 40 unranked songs together, there is one album i took every song of. besides that i think i enjoyed relistening to sonic youth more than relistening to new order. there were hardly any surprises here whereas i had forgotten about quite a lot of sonic youth stuff.

Ballot sent, and I greatly enjoyed listening to some of the newer albums that I hadn't given much attention to. As for the old stuff, it's never off my playlist.

I'll vote because it's easy but I don't have much to say; we talk about this band a lot

the only struggle is figuring out how to find 40 songs to rank over "Blue Monday" because fuck that; or should I say, I will rock the shack

Yeah it feels like people do obviously love this band but a lot of it has been covered on the many threads about them.

Don't worry too much about 'poll fatigue', when I did the Fall one, about half the entries arrived on the final weekend

I was totally planning to use this poll as an excuse to revisit the entire New Order discography in chronological order. However, my experience revisiting Movement was waaaaaay different than it was the better part of a decade ago. Always struck me as tentative juvenalia, but now the weird crossbreed of JD and NO elements was too interesting and unique to dismiss. If I stuck to a ballot of stuff that didn't require reassessment it'd basically be hits plus a bunch of Low-Life and Brotherhood, so I think I'm gonna sit this one out (my faves are sure to place high anyway) and use it as a tool for when I do reinvestigate the whole magilla

pretty curious to read your responses

11 ballots received so far. will email a response if you don't receive then resubmit your ballot.

thanks everyone!

Think I have my list ready. The hardest part was deciding which album tracks I'd have from Low-Life and Power Corruption & Lies. All the other albums I knew exactly which songs would be on my list but these two are such solid albums I found it hard to pick out individual songs for some reason. My albums list was easy, now I've just got to figure out which videos to go for.

btw, i have received some unranked ballots. if you don't want to rank them that is OK as well, just tell me they are unranked.

Voted! Just realised I numbered my choices and it says not to at the top. Bee, let me know if you need to send it again without the numbers.

3 since 1990 means their discography is a bit lopsided on that score.

Well, 4 now haha. Not even the poll was enough to get me to check out Lost Sirens yet.

Surprised I could come up with 40 tracks I like. I think of them as a band with very high highs and a lot of mediocre tracks, not to mention many short albums. But nothing on my ballot is mediocre (maaaaybe #40), and my top 5 tracks are all-time jams.

the numbers are not a problem. i said No need to number them but you can number them. in fact most of the ballots have numbers.

xpost

My ballot is definitely ranked, btw

I didn't put numbers on mine, but it's 1-40 from the top.

Yeah mine is 1-40 from the top as well.

this is due on the 26th? new order is so great, but i def prefer the guitar side to the rubbery dance music side and i'm not ashamed to admit it. that's just how my instrument is tuned, i guess.
anyway, i have no idea what ilx consensus is so i have to ask - age of consent is well liked, yes? (i hope the answer is yes)

like i need another assignment in life but hey, it shouldn't be that hard. i know my favorites as well as i know any songs i know.

actually, that's not true -- i like both sides of new order, i just have a preference for movement-era sound over technique-era sound
brotherhood is somewhere in the middle, low life is at the top.

i think demographic info is interesting with new order too-- i wasn't friends with a single girl in high school (89-93) who didn't like at least one new order song. i had a tshirt with a rainbow usa flag on it. i wore it to my cousin's graduation party. we lived in ohio, usa. that's basically what new order reminds me of: adolescence.

ha well my favorite NO albums are Movement and Technique so

i don't know about ilm but i don't like age of consent at all. it is a stinking ballad. new order have so many great tunes but age of consent isn't one of them. that song goes absolutely nowhere. the singing is terrible as well. for me it belongs into the bottom 10% of the new order catalogue. but i am sure there are defenders...

xp - i'm not arguing or saying what's best, just what i personally prefer -- it's pretty clear (to me at least) that my feelings about new order songs were decided when i was an intellectual and emotional tadpole.

haha! you don't really hate age of consent, do you? are you pulling my leg?!

Allen wrote the Barnes rap, right? It's a clear precursor to the England's Irie rap

Yeah, I think so... I think he had a hand in the lyrics generally, though, not just the rap.

huh, listening to Lost Sirens again and I may have made a mistake in not considering "Hellbent" for my ballot

i am digging that album. just listening to it on spotify. there is nothing brilliant like eg bizarre love triangle of course but even the leftovers of their last album are pretty solid and mostly quite lovely. are they ever going to reform? hooky doing joy division and early new order albums live is really sad, recycling and reviving the past, what a waste of time.

The pristine mix helps "Hellbent"

I must be the only one who thinks "Hooky had a point" and that he's O.K. Really.

this is coming together quite nicely. i have seen a few of the photos that Millsner has put together for us. looking outstanding.

results will start to roll out in about 24 hours with the actual tracks starting around noon California time on Thursday.

Mark - you might like Hooky on the Sound Opinions podcast last week.

for the record:

I feel so extraordinary somePoll's got a hold on me: NEW ORDER artist poll #37 (RESULTS thread)