Oh, you've got green eyes Oh, you've got blue eyes Oh, you've got Poll eyes: NEW ORDER Artist poll #37 (voting ends May 26 Midnight Pacific)

I have to confess that I like tons of New Order songs -- maybe enough to fill out a 40-song ballot -- but most of them I can't tell by name. I have to hear them and say, "Oh right, that one."

(which I guess is in keeping with their whole aesthetic, so maybe I shouldn't feel bad.)

making a top 30 was easy but 40 is oddly difficult

Deep cut/b-side reminder time.

Exhibit A: the sublime "Lonesome Tonight" - the last 2.5 minutes or so are so perfect...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYrmcZWsBy4

Exhibit B: the nifty "Cries & Whispers" is this track...NOT "Mesh!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NZfjbht79M

Exhibit C:

The Peel Session version of "5-8-6" blows away the LP version...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZyZtM9h-3k

(That whole session is totally awesome, of course - Turn The Heater On, Too Late, We All Stand.)

Speaking of 586, don't forget:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLqdxO_5x7o

"Lonesome Tonight" is top ten: that leisurely wordless coda!

i still don't like the ranking. why are we all forced to rank the tracks? i'd prefer to name 40 tracks in alphabetic order with each track getting the same number of points.

i thought all artist poll were run like this?

― Bee OK, Friday, May 17, 2013 8:09 PM (Yesterday)

In the polls I've run, I've accepted ballots from people who want to just split the points evenly among all the tracks they vote for. It's no biggie, but I've never listed it as an option because it's not what I/we are generally going for.

at the age of 16 this was probably my favourite song of all time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDXBPZoV2jw

It took a few years to understand -- let alone feel -- the kind of morning after lovebuzz that Sumner sings about.

I like the option of doing fourty — it won't be very hard for me to fill out that list.

And yes, 'Dream Attack' will be rather high on my ballot.

Revisiting New Order, I'm always struck by how much of a guitar (and bass) band they were. I think of them as part of the whole synth-linndrum wave, and they were, but that was just part of the picture.

i think 3 out of my top 5 new order songs are guitar songs

How will different versions of the same song be counted?

Temptation '82 vs. '87, 7-inch vs. 12-inch, etc.

I do think this is one of the most extraordinary pieces of music ever made. The bass sequencer always put me in mind of the musical spaceship at the end of Close Encounters; the melody is beautiful, insistent and mysterious; and then Martin Hannett added what sounds like a swarm of cyber insects descending at the close.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9vY-rhes6o

Chosen time will be very high on my ballot.

Likewise.

Ballot submitted. Managed a full 40-track list, and even had to trim some songs I'm fond of.

wow Dream Attack is magical. As is Doubts Even Here, the penultimate track on Movement, it is so gorgeous. Vote it high people.

a long way from fixing my final ballot, but those 2 will place high, no doubts here

Predicting a good showing for Movement.

ICB when the drums really kick in = wow.

btw pretty much the entirety of Movement is the greatest thing in the world

Movement and Technique (and Substance?) fighting it out for the best albums.

(coughs) and PCL, clearly.

dunno where this is going but it's one of my favorite late period songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KO0zeP6ftY

There's a nice recording of that one from Reading '93 as well.

You can NOW vote for songs without numbering them, i will count all songs evenly.

for those who wish to not rank their songs ballot.

Just working on my list. I made a playlist of my favourite songs, got it down to 45 songs now. I really don't want to leave any of these songs out.

Everyone Everywhere will be on my list. Actually surprised how many songs I love that came after Technique. On my playlist I have thirteen songs from the last three albums.

"Crystal" will certainly make mine.

Yeah that will do well on mine.

I know a lot of people don't rate Republic that highly but I currently have five songs on my list from that album that I just don't want to cut.

Flicking through the last two albums I realised my favourite song is Waiting For The Siren's Call by quite a long way, really hope that has enough supporters to make it. The "How many times must I lose my way" bit is one of my favourite New Order moments.

The other big dilemma I'm having is if I'm going to include Blue Monday. It's hard to even rank that song against the others due to how many times I've heard it in my life. It's a great song but I barely ever play it put of choice anymore.

The post-(e)Electronic keyboards and muted Hooky bass are Republic's most crippling flaws. The tunes are ace.

Happy to see people praising Movement. Always the dark horse from the catalogue - maligned by the band and critics alike - but I have always thought it a terrible special record. I can't think of another record that really sounds like this, but R.E.M.'s Murmur and Marianne Faithful's Broken English have a similar production feel... Very nocturnal-sounding.

I was discussing off-site the appeal of New Order's melodica songs. "Truth" ranks highly amongst my favourites.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ajtp7tPee1A

also "Hurt."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRu5CThEmcE

And "In A Lonely Place," "Turn The Heater On," "Your Silent Face," "Love Vigilantes," "Angel Dust" (listen during the guitar solo - more obvious in "Evil Dust"), "All The Way," "Run Wild," and possibly "Slow Jam" (sounds like it during the last 30 seconds or so). Can anyone spot more instances?

xpost - love "Waiting for the Sirens' Call."

"Morning Night and Day" is my banger from that album.

The post-(e)Electronic keyboards and muted Hooky bass are Republic's most crippling flaws. The tunes are ace.

― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)

Yeah Hooky is barely on that album.

As for Siren's Call I think it loses it's way half way through. I can never really remember of the songs after I Told You So. Turn is the other song I think I'll end up voting for from that album, really surprised they didn't put that out as a single.

Dag, looking forward to this poll. May actually participate!

By love "Waiting for the Sirens' Call" I meant the song... The album itself is OK, but loses steam midway as mentioned above.

Speaking of losing steam, I just listened to Republic for the first time in years. The first half sounds better than I remember, but the stretch of songs between "Young Offender" and "Avalanche" really draaaaags, though I like those two tracks themselves.

What I really love about early New Order is it seems like the songs are built around Steve's drums. This seems less apparent after PC&L.

I really like Special from the second half of Republic, the strings at the end are a bit of an obvious Unfinished Sympathy rip off but it's a great tune.

this discography even has videos:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Order_discography

What I really love about early New Order is it seems like the songs are built around Steve's drums. This seems less apparent after PC&L.

I relistened to PC&L at the weekend and the drumming really stood out, 'Age of Consent' in particular.

I'm a casual New Order fan compared to many but shortlisting my favourite tracks gave me 40-odd songs to work with.

Somehow I just realized that for a band that's been active (for the most part) for 30+ years, they don't have a very large catalogue.

5 albums in the 80s (plus Substance) then 3 since 1990 means their discography is a bit lopsided on that score.

Five albums in the 80's but they all have just eight or nine songs on them.

my favourite band ages 13-16, formative experience etc. has been fun going back to songs i haven't listened to in 15+ years, early singles & first two albums still sound amazing, then things get v sporadic.
vote Procession/Everything's Gone Green!

Yeh, Procession is a bit overlooked, coming between Ceremony and Blue Monday. I love the way a pop song suddenly bursts out of that wonky keyboard wash, and Steve does those crisp snare rolls at the end.

Sent Mine.

and me mine.

hmm, are we seeing poll fatigue here?

I thought the New Order poll thread would be very, very busy here on ILM.

i got my 40 unranked songs together, there is one album i took every song of. besides that i think i enjoyed relistening to sonic youth more than relistening to new order. there were hardly any surprises here whereas i had forgotten about quite a lot of sonic youth stuff.

Ballot sent, and I greatly enjoyed listening to some of the newer albums that I hadn't given much attention to. As for the old stuff, it's never off my playlist.

I wanted to vote but am on holiday. Ballot would have had a lot of 'technique'. Looking forward to the results.

i expect my #1 to be at least top 5 - but i reckon i'll be well on my own with my #2

― grange hermit crab (electricsound), Sunday, May 26, 2013 9:28 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

I voted for 'face up' as my #2 too

oh if only that was it

I'll be amazed if my #1 appears on anyone else's ballot tbh

nah I voted for "Sooner Than You Think" too

You shouldn't joke about that. You're getting my hopes up.

no one has mentioned my #1 afaik but i'm confident it'll squash the competition
everyone loves "world in motion" right?

the elephant in the room, surely a #1 contender
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5UK40sSo8I

that was in my top three, yes

might as well admit it... that's my number one. On some days, I really do feel that it might be my favourite song of all time.

And this is still one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen on the Internet:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=JP3qe595cvc

foreeeeeeever

I admit I didn't vote for it, because to me it's more "Joy Division", the b-side sounds especially like Ian. (The a-side, less so)

the 12" does credit the song to joy division

maybe but who will take credit for "world in motion"?!

ASCAP lists both 'Ceremony' and 'In A Lonely Place' as being composed by Curtis/Hook/Morris/Sumner.

maybe but who will take credit for "world in motion"?!

― free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Monday, May 27, 2013 8:24 PM (36 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

'World In Motion' is worth it for this bit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWr3xMhm0ig

and the way Peter Beardsley badly mimes "express yourself" in the video.

i always wondered who The England Man was!

you mean En-ga-land

He reprised it for a Mars Bar advert later on...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ6RdObptn4

Allen wrote the Barnes rap, right? It's a clear precursor to the England's Irie rap

Yeah, I think so... I think he had a hand in the lyrics generally, though, not just the rap.

huh, listening to Lost Sirens again and I may have made a mistake in not considering "Hellbent" for my ballot

i am digging that album. just listening to it on spotify. there is nothing brilliant like eg bizarre love triangle of course but even the leftovers of their last album are pretty solid and mostly quite lovely. are they ever going to reform? hooky doing joy division and early new order albums live is really sad, recycling and reviving the past, what a waste of time.

The pristine mix helps "Hellbent"

I must be the only one who thinks "Hooky had a point" and that he's O.K. Really.

this is coming together quite nicely. i have seen a few of the photos that Millsner has put together for us. looking outstanding.

results will start to roll out in about 24 hours with the actual tracks starting around noon California time on Thursday.

Mark - you might like Hooky on the Sound Opinions podcast last week.

for the record:

I feel so extraordinary somePoll's got a hold on me: NEW ORDER artist poll #37 (RESULTS thread)