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― siouxsan sarandon (Stevie D(eux)), Saturday, 11 May 2013 19:15 (eleven years ago) link
can confirm that exterminator rules
― the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 11 May 2013 19:17 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i have no time for screamadelica or most of primal scream's work apart from 'velocity girl,' and i love XTRMNTR. top 10 of the decade for me easy.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 11 May 2013 19:20 (eleven years ago) link
Screamadelica was a botched album... all the wrong mixes went on in the wrong order and it was at least a year after the fact. XTRMNTR was amazing when it came out and remains so.
― Doran, Saturday, 11 May 2013 19:29 (eleven years ago) link
50% cosign. XTRMNTR is awesome classic, but I still like Screamadelica a lot.
― they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Saturday, 11 May 2013 20:04 (eleven years ago) link
Very very underwhelmed at the time by Screamadelica. Loved XTRMNTR at the time & occasional listens confirm its marvellousness. I have listened to nothing else by Primal Scream. Should I bother?
― Eyeball Kicks, Sunday, 12 May 2013 00:39 (eleven years ago) link
Vanishing Point is the only other album you need to hear. I actually prefer it to XTRMNTR, mainly because of how amazing Burning Wheel and Kowalski are.
― Kitchen Person, Sunday, 12 May 2013 00:44 (eleven years ago) link
I don't think they've ever made a masterpiece. Their three best albums all have flaws. Screamadelica has Movin' on up and Loaded which I never need to hear again in my life, Vanishing Point has Star and Medication which are retro bullshit and XTRMNTR features Bobby rapping.
― Kitchen Person, Sunday, 12 May 2013 00:47 (eleven years ago) link
You got to be kidding me, Pills is one of my favourites on the album. If you think of it as the rambling paranoid interior monologue of a guy who's been running on pills for four days without sleep. I think it's absolutely brilliant, the album as a whole is SUCH a masterpiece to me. I know Bobby talks a lot of shite but the flashes of brilliance make up for it tenfold.
― MatthewK, Sunday, 12 May 2013 09:43 (eleven years ago) link
I haf listened to this new album and it is quite good.
― PJ Miller, Sunday, 12 May 2013 11:13 (eleven years ago) link
I know it's all opinion but I'm pretty sure in this instance it's factually correct to say that Bobby Gillespie couldn't rap his way out of a damp paper bag.
― Doran, Sunday, 12 May 2013 12:26 (eleven years ago) link
― MatthewK
Sorry I find his rapping totally embarrassing. "The truth about you, you never been true" I just don't know how anyone can take that seriously.
― Kitchen Person, Sunday, 12 May 2013 22:46 (eleven years ago) link
You don't have to take it seriously to enjoy it.
― they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 13 May 2013 07:12 (eleven years ago) link
I kind of want to buy the new album.
The thing is it sounds to me Bobby was being serious when he was doing that rap, like he really wants us to "Tell the truth" but it just sounds bad and I cringe every time I hear it. I do like the album a lot but that song is just a big misstep.
― Kitchen Person, Monday, 13 May 2013 07:34 (eleven years ago) link
I have to agree. He does it again on Culturecide, which is the only disaster on the new album. I interviewed Gillespie at his manager's house just before XTRMNTR came out and he put the album on and rapped along to Pills. That was awkward.
― Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 13 May 2013 08:43 (eleven years ago) link
Pills has honestly never bothered me! The bit where he just gives up and swears over and over and over is awesome.
― they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 13 May 2013 09:12 (eleven years ago) link
Anyway, I'm listening to the new one on *gulp* Spotify and it's alright, isn't it? I'm enjoying quite a lot of it. I didn't even give Beautiful Future then dignity of a single listen, and the CD of Riot City Blues got defenestrated, it was that bad.
― they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 13 May 2013 09:13 (eleven years ago) link
I just reading reviews of their albums the other day and came across your Riot City Blues one on Stylus, it actually made me want to hear it. I remember quite liking the single from Beautiful Future but never bothered with it even though when Virgin/Zavi was closing they had hundreds of copies selling for a couple of pounds.
― Kitchen Person, Monday, 13 May 2013 09:19 (eleven years ago) link
Ha! I got the plural of poets laureate wrong in that. Shocking.
― they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 13 May 2013 09:42 (eleven years ago) link
Riot City Blues is daft pastiche but harmless - Country Girl and When the Bomb Drops are both keepers. The only worthwhile things from BF are the Fleetwood Mac cover and Weatherall's remix of Uptown. After those two and the patchy Evil Heat the new one is better than anyone could have expected - David Holmes's production is terrific.
― Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 13 May 2013 09:52 (eleven years ago) link
I found the production / sound on RCB awful and offensive, but it's a Youth job, from when I was at the height of my crusade, and he's a butcher.
― they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 13 May 2013 10:02 (eleven years ago) link
I'm kind of astonished at how good More Light is on second listen. It's not amazing, or anything, but it is just really, really good, all the way through.
― they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 13 May 2013 12:26 (eleven years ago) link
I got as far as the phrase "final solution to teenage revolution" and just felt too embarrassed to continue.
― Matt DC, Monday, 13 May 2013 18:00 (eleven years ago) link
Suspension of disbelief Matt
― Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 13 May 2013 18:08 (eleven years ago) link
Echo Dek is their best. I'm still trying to find other music that sounds like that and having trouble.
― Poliopolice, Monday, 13 May 2013 18:15 (eleven years ago) link
I've paid zero attention to lyrics.
― they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 13 May 2013 18:37 (eleven years ago) link
a bunch of the other b-sides/remixes from the period are in the same general ballpark
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 13 May 2013 18:52 (eleven years ago) link
I've really been enjoying More Light, Even inspired me to go back and give their previous two another go, and both have some good cuts, just not as consistent as the new one.
― Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 02:46 (eleven years ago) link
Evil Heat had some decent moments, a little too overly maligned at the time after Exterminator was good.
Never listened to Echo Dek much, Vanishing Point / Exterminator are probably my faves with Screamadelica after.
― tweeship journey to 77 (mh), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 02:52 (eleven years ago) link
so, just found out re the extra disc version.
is it worth it ?
― mark e, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 12:18 (eleven years ago) link
What's on the extra disc?
― they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 12:23 (eleven years ago) link
well, according to amazon :
Disc: 21. Nothing Is Real / Nothing Is Unreal2. Requiem For The Russian Tea Rooms3. Running Out Of Time4. Worm Tamer5. Theme From More Light6. 2013 (Weatherall Remix)
tempted by the weatherall remix alone to be honest ...
― mark e, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 12:24 (eleven years ago) link
What we used to call 'b-sides' then, I guess.
― they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 12:25 (eleven years ago) link
oooh .. and there is this free live ep via amazon :
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00CAA2I1W/ref=dm_ty_trk
― mark e, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 12:35 (eleven years ago) link
ooh it is FREE
― Mark G, Tuesday, 14 May 2013 12:44 (eleven years ago) link
Weatherall's Uptown remix was so good your instinct might be right m. e
― charli.xlsx (sic), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 13:27 (eleven years ago) link
Worm Tamer
ooh the spice must flow eh
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:40 (eleven years ago) link
saw the cover of this half an hour ago, just stopped laughing
― Koné 2013 (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 14 May 2013 15:55 (eleven years ago) link
Blame Momus.
― they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Wednesday, 15 May 2013 11:11 (eleven years ago) link
re Disc: 2
1. Nothing Is Real / Nothing Is Unreal << great 5 minute krautrock + horns groove song. love it.
2. Requiem For The Russian Tea Rooms << instrumental. sounds like a dark descendant of roy budd. good stuff.
3. Running Out Of Time << more honking sax, lone bass groove + hard left placed echoed vocals .. before flute action and wah wah guitars join in. brilliant.
4. Worm Tamer << nick cave cover. vocals placed on the left side again (same session as previous track ?). slide guitar loop. 5 minutes of layered sonics, harmonica, before kicking in with some fantastically ott guitar noise.
5. Theme From More Light << more slide guitar and atmospherics, more in line with a ry cooder soundtrack. a throwaway couple of minutes, but adds nicely to the flow of this extra disc (i.e. its not just a chunk of disconnected remixes)
6. 2013 (Weatherall Remix) << over 8 minutes of sci-fi kraut-dub excess. the thin drums + deep bass with the tremolo'd vocals before the momentary widescreen production synth/guitar kicks in at 3 minutes. more sax @ 6 minutes. overall the track is a spooked out, lo-fi variation, giving it a pre-virgin era cabaret voltaire feel. really good.
overall : really glad i picked up the 2cd edition.
― mark e, Thursday, 23 May 2013 14:25 (eleven years ago) link
is the first disc any good though? :D
― ¬╡▫ ▫╞⌠ (sic), Thursday, 23 May 2013 14:33 (eleven years ago) link
hah .. well, i think there are enough reviews out there re the album to figure out whether this is something worth spending your hard-earned cash on. personally i this its rather good.so far, highlight for me is the swamped out psych fug of 'river of pain'.cant wait to hear this on my home system.
― mark e, Thursday, 23 May 2013 14:38 (eleven years ago) link
ok.
a few listens in.
this album hits the same sonic spot as the last david holmes 'solo' album, the holy pictures, (if you haven't got it, then do .. its not 'david holmes does dance music' at all) and andrew w's recent collaboration, the asphodells, but is a lot more satisfying than both of those efforts.
this is another album on which the so called established folks involved feel to have genuinely made an effort for their 2013 effort.
see also : bowie, daft punk, qotsa, suede, omd
summary : 2013 = good year.
― mark e, Thursday, 23 May 2013 19:57 (eleven years ago) link
That's been the most pleasant surprise this year - bands who I thought were pretty much done suddenly bouncing back. Human After All, Beautiful Future and Era Vulgaris were all such crashing disappointments but here we are.
― Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 23 May 2013 20:06 (eleven years ago) link
exactly my point DL ..
2013 is the year that people who needed to, raised their game ..
― mark e, Thursday, 23 May 2013 20:08 (eleven years ago) link
Words in here - http://sickmouthy.com/2013/05/26/albums-from-may-part-1/
― they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 26 May 2013 16:37 (eleven years ago) link
stream. the first two songs are pretty great. the first one more in the party vein of screamadelica, the second one a psychedelic ballad kind of thing.
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 14 June 2013 04:50 (ten years ago) link
ok, so about a month ago i made a promise that i broke, which was to listen to XTRMNTR for the first time and report back within the day. i've finally listened to it and it is everything the people on this board said it would be... i love the heaviness and the noisiness which never take away from the catchiness. way better than screamadelica, which is still good, but i can see myself loving this album in a way i do not love screamadelica
― Treeship, Friday, 14 June 2013 05:07 (ten years ago) link
Just got around to listening to More Light... fucking hell, this is actually good!
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Thursday, 20 June 2013 02:59 (ten years ago) link