Is John Mayer really funnier than David Cross?

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haha - did you read michelle shocked (shocked! - c. rains) in usa today last week? with the death of the album the future of the music industry is 'nothing but novelty songs'! oh no! i was hoping they would get cledus t. judd to offer up a rebuttal.

― cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 8 December 2003 23:27 (twenty years ago) link

duh, he writes for blender matos (j/k)

― cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 8 December 2003 23:28 (twenty years ago) link

I was tempted to make that joke myself, but I am genuinely curious, in part because I don't remember the quote offhand.

― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 8 December 2003 23:30 (twenty years ago) link

oh, now I remember it. nevermind. and that USA Today thing was so fucking ridiculously embarrassing

― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 8 December 2003 23:31 (twenty years ago) link

Wait, what was the blurb comment? I forget that one....

― chuck, Monday, 8 December 2003 23:37 (twenty years ago) link

Surprised you guys weren't bugged too. I forget the song its in reference to but Mayer goes on and on about people not writing actual SONGS these days, just catchphrases and loops.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 8 December 2003 23:39 (twenty years ago) link

both of them were way too "oh the horrible state of radio" for my tastes.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 8 December 2003 23:40 (twenty years ago) link

Crazytown was much cooler a year or two ago when they reviewed singles. I never would have known some people think Coldplay's "Yellow" was about an STD!

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 8 December 2003 23:41 (twenty years ago) link

Mayer goes on and on about people not writing actual SONGS these
days

Why does this man provide the rope with which to hang himself?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 8 December 2003 23:42 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, I vaguely remember that. Maybe it didn't bother me because it's exactly what I'd EXPECT the guy to say; it was his more surprising stuff that stood out. The predictable whining went right by me, and whenever I laughed it was Mayer--not Cross, who was NEVER funny.

I remember Kittie being real funny a year or two ago. But maybe I'm wrong.

― chuck, Monday, 8 December 2003 23:44 (twenty years ago) link

kittie WAS funny! Especially since their quotes were off-set by that bedwetter Moby. I believe Crazytown shared the screen with that other one-great-single-rest-is-total-shit band Buckcherry.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 8 December 2003 23:45 (twenty years ago) link

...who actually made two good albums, but never mind.

― chuck, Monday, 8 December 2003 23:46 (twenty years ago) link

That you can enjoy a song by Crazytown besides "Butterfly" (which was possibly the best single of that year) is beyond me.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 8 December 2003 23:47 (twenty years ago) link

I only love ONE other Crazytown song -- the one where the amazing Shifty Shelshock talks about all the girls who go through his revolving door some never come back some come back for more. (It was Buck Cherry who I think have two good albums, not Crazytown.)

― chuck, Monday, 8 December 2003 23:49 (twenty years ago) link

They call him Shifty Capone; he makes them moan!

― chuck, Monday, 8 December 2003 23:50 (twenty years ago) link

Coincidentally I finally decided to get rid of my copy of Time Bomb today. The riffs are alright but I find the singer really grating (lyrics uninspired too). They're going for G'N'R and end up sounding like a more obnoxious Black Crowes. I like the cocaine song and "Ridin'" though.

Did you hear Shifty's collabo with Paul Oakenfold! I really liked it! I wish he'd drop the moaning and the sludge band and just rap!

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 8 December 2003 23:53 (twenty years ago) link

I always thought Buck Cherry sounded like Black Crowes but BETTER! The GnR intention (assuming it was there) was immaterial to me. But that song about movies on their debut is more like OASIS but better.

And yeah, I think I heard the Shifty/Oakenfeld thing once and liked it.

― chuck, Monday, 8 December 2003 23:56 (twenty years ago) link

I'll admit they're better than Oasis but I'll probably take the best Black Crowes songs over all Buckcherry except the two I already mentioned. I'd rather some guy mooing lovey-dovey than shrieking about "bitches and money." I wish the Buckcherry dude had a tenth of Steven Tyler's wit. Or if he's determined to be so belligerent, Axl's.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 8 December 2003 23:59 (twenty years ago) link

I wish Steve Tyler still had one tenth of Steve Tyler's wit.

As for Buckcherry, I never listened to the words. I admit that several songs may not be as good to shoot pool to as "Hard to Handle," for whatever that's worth. (Actually, I never listened to Black Crowes' words either, come to think of it.)

― chuck, Tuesday, 9 December 2003 00:04 (twenty years ago) link

i like bill hicks, davis cross, AND crazytown. but i don't like john mayer, jimmy fallon, dennis miller, dave grohl, coldplay or moby.

― scott seward, Tuesday, 9 December 2003 00:08 (twenty years ago) link

What about Buckcherry and Black Crowes, Scott???? Anyway, I guess my point is that Black Crowes could have AFFORDED to be more obnoxious. Give or take the great Otis cover, they were always too tasteful for my tastes, anyway.

― chuck, Tuesday, 9 December 2003 00:09 (twenty years ago) link

rich kids go figure

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 00:11 (twenty years ago) link

haha so that WAS you who wrote the By Your Side review for SPIN, Chuck! And you gave 'em a 7, which is a fairly decent grade (esp. since they had streamlined their sound a bit thank god).

I only mentioned Dave Grohl as being funny in interviews, Scott. I wasn't referring to the Foo discography.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 00:11 (twenty years ago) link

chuck, you should rent one of those mr.show compilation dvd's. their music skits are some of the funniest bits. wicked scepter. marilyn monster. the two megaphone singers from the 20's who sing songs about recent inventions who have a battle concert where they have to invent something and then sing a song about it. i still think that show is really funny. but i like silly stuff.

i like the black crowes okay.they could be boring though. i would rather listen to country music or old boogie rock. i have amorica but i think i only listened to it once. buckcherry i only remember a video by and well i can't really remember.

― scott seward, Tuesday, 9 December 2003 00:14 (twenty years ago) link

Spin always changed those grades anyway. (Actually, I still own the Crowes' best of album, and anticipate keeping it, though I haven't played it for two years.)

― chuck, Tuesday, 9 December 2003 00:14 (twenty years ago) link

dave grohl actually seems like a nice enough guy and he likes good music which is why it perplexes me that he insists on making such bad music himself. he was in a well-regarded hardcore band that i never cared about. but so was moby.

― scott seward, Tuesday, 9 December 2003 00:16 (twenty years ago) link

Scott, I will take your advice as always. But here's my REAL David Cross question: Do I look like him, or not??? (At least five people, including somebody on this board when I wasn't looking, have claimed that I do, independently of each other. But I don't believe them. Since for one thing, I have HAIR, right???)

― chuck, Tuesday, 9 December 2003 00:18 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, Grohl is on my friendly-seeming guys whose music sucks list, too. (I always forget about him, because his music sucking pisses me off way more than Matthews' or Mayer's or Claypool's music sucking.)

― chuck, Tuesday, 9 December 2003 00:19 (twenty years ago) link

you don't look like him. you both wear glasses. you are both funny. that's about all i can see.

― scott seward, Tuesday, 9 December 2003 00:20 (twenty years ago) link

david cross has really pedestrian indie-rock tastes but i don't hold that against him. lotsa people with great musical tastes probably wouldn't know funny if it hit them over the head.

― scott seward, Tuesday, 9 December 2003 00:24 (twenty years ago) link

Rap: The Musical! Featuring no rap music! Open up your heart and let the rap shine in!

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 00:43 (twenty years ago) link

Run, Ronnie, Run is worth renting just for the 3 Times One Minus One video alone. "Erotic magazines...erotic tangerines...erotic letters from Ben Vereen!"

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 00:44 (twenty years ago) link

but wait, don't mention run ronnie run cuz if chuck rents that he will never rent mr.show. even bob and david dismiss it on their web-site. although i thought it was kinda okay. kinda like brain candy. just nowhere as funny as the show. yeah, i like all the songs from the show too. the new san francisco song. the one the milking machine sings at the end of the travelling salesman musical.all of them.

― scott seward, Tuesday, 9 December 2003 01:02 (twenty years ago) link

yeah rent Mr. Show first, natch. That said fans of Mr. Show should appreciate the stuff that comes out of Bob and David's mouths in Run Ronnie Run, if not what any other character ever says.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 01:06 (twenty years ago) link

Mr. Show can't touch Kids in the Hall. It was funnier, edgier, far more creative and even the one-off characters were better-developed than most sketch comics ever come up with. (Not that sketch comedy is such a great field.) Someday Rhino will lovingly rerelease KITH on DVD and everyone'll dig it again.

David Cross is tedious. His lack of enthusiasm in his own material made his comedy album a slog. At least Bill Hicks could convey rants and self-hatred with a smile and some honest effort. (If Hicks' anti-establishment, anti-GOP anger strikes a nerve with me, does that mean I'll vote for Dean? Just curious.)

― Chris Dahlen (Chris Dahlen), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 01:42 (twenty years ago) link

KITH destroys Mr. Show, that is a laughable comparison. KITH was Python caliber.

― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 01:49 (twenty years ago) link

Fuck all y'all.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 01:53 (twenty years ago) link

I totally agree. (and psst...the first season of KITH on DVD is now available to order online, and will be in stores in the spring)

― Al (sitcom), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 01:55 (twenty years ago) link

>KITH destroys Mr. Show, that is a laughable comparison. KITH was Python caliber.<

But The Goon Show destroyed Python, right? (At least I used to think so.)

― chuck, Tuesday, 9 December 2003 01:58 (twenty years ago) link

Then I've gotta track down some Goon Show ... after I go preorder myself some KITH!

― Chris Dahlen (Chris Dahlen), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 02:04 (twenty years ago) link

KITH destroys Mr. Show, that is a laughable comparison. KITH was Python caliber.

I can't agree with this, really. Both shows had some dizzying highs and real blahs.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 02:08 (twenty years ago) link

i love mr.show AND The Kids In The Hall AND monty python AND the ben stiller show AND the ernie kovacs show AND the goon show AND beyond the fringe AND the muppet show AND the upright citizen's brigade. they are all really really funny. they all kill each other.

― scott seward, Tuesday, 9 December 2003 02:11 (twenty years ago) link

and Run Ronnie Run is more consistently entertaining than Brain Candy.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 02:11 (twenty years ago) link

and i fucking love sctv. where is my 10 dvd box set!!!!!!!!??????

― scott seward, Tuesday, 9 December 2003 02:13 (twenty years ago) link

I love both shows like a would a family member (seriously)!!! I hate this "David Cross ain't really funny" shit. Y'all make me sad, sad, sad.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 02:17 (twenty years ago) link

now that bob saget. he slays me.

― Christian Rawk (Christian Rawk), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 02:31 (twenty years ago) link

Wow, this is probably the first thread to inspire actual anger in me. Really weird.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 02:36 (twenty years ago) link

Don't fret. I've calmed down.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 02:36 (twenty years ago) link

Bash Jimmy Fallon all you guys want, though. No problem with that.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 02:38 (twenty years ago) link

tina fey: bob odenkirk :: david cross : jimmy fallon

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 9 December 2003 02:40 (twenty years ago) link

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Hahahaha I fucking love that.

― t(o_o)t (ENBB), Sunday, 28 February 2010 13:32 (fourteen years ago) link

What's with this scene of mini-Mayer singer-songwriters that that are kind of big and famous but I have never even heard of?

I'm talking Matt Nathanson, Matt Wertz, Dave Barnes. A quick glance at their wikipedia pages shows all sorts of appearances on tv and soundtracks, but who are they and what's their deal? The scene seems to be some weird DMB/country/Christian rock/folk rock pool party.

― Cunga, Friday, 5 March 2010 19:59 (fourteen years ago) link

i think TV soundtracks is a big tipoff there -- there's a whole world of musicians who exist for no other reason than to score contemplative moments in Grey's Anatomy and Scrubs

― some dude, Friday, 5 March 2010 20:05 (fourteen years ago) link

fratboys

― jaxon, Friday, 5 March 2010 20:12 (fourteen years ago) link

I remember when my fratbro RA and I were talking music for the first time, he talked about all these different singer-songwriters, and not only did they all sound the same to me but they all seem to look and act the same, too. Wouldn't be surpised if it's all the same guy producing these contemplative music moments for Grey's Anatomy tbh.

xpost yeah

― Cunga, Friday, 5 March 2010 20:13 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh CW network (and the WB before you), so much to answer for.

― Roomful of Moogs (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 5 March 2010 20:14 (fourteen years ago) link

i wonder if this entire cottage industry sprang up just because Coldplay set their licensing fees prohibitively high or something

― some dude, Friday, 5 March 2010 20:16 (fourteen years ago) link

even the kind of critics who can appreciate horrible pop and defend really uncool music take the http://i45.tinypic.com/20z7o9k.jpg

attitude to this kind of thing.

xpost the Coldplay-John Mayer-the Fray music licensing cartel

― Cunga, Friday, 5 March 2010 20:18 (fourteen years ago) link

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